The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
Sammo123 said:
Morning,
After some persuasion from someone at work I put my name in the London Marathon 2019 ballot and ended up getting a place! That’s great except I hadn’t done any running for over a year and had been largely unhealthy for most of that time. Anyway, I got straight back out running and was surprised that even after all that time away the fitness came back pretty quickly and within a couple of weeks I was running 5 miles after work around 10 minutes per mile. Considering I’d also put on about 8kg over that period I was happy with that.
Then winter turned up!! I missed a couple of runs because it was raining/too cold out and then haven’t been running again since. I’m very much aware that the marathon is only about four months away and I’m starting to panic that I’m not going to be anywhere near ready!
Any words of advice or just a big kick up the arse from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
I'd echo what SMN said, you have the time but best to get started now!After some persuasion from someone at work I put my name in the London Marathon 2019 ballot and ended up getting a place! That’s great except I hadn’t done any running for over a year and had been largely unhealthy for most of that time. Anyway, I got straight back out running and was surprised that even after all that time away the fitness came back pretty quickly and within a couple of weeks I was running 5 miles after work around 10 minutes per mile. Considering I’d also put on about 8kg over that period I was happy with that.
Then winter turned up!! I missed a couple of runs because it was raining/too cold out and then haven’t been running again since. I’m very much aware that the marathon is only about four months away and I’m starting to panic that I’m not going to be anywhere near ready!
Any words of advice or just a big kick up the arse from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
I often find that new gear motivates me to at least get out the door, so if you have any new gear for Christmas, or some money to spend in the sales I'd go for that. Particularly if you're struggling with the wet and the cold a new jacket/tights/gloves/hat/cold weather kit could be a good idea (or at least it would for me!).
Another idea could be to run to/from work if you can. It takes less time out of your day and can be a good way of getting the miles in.
Sammo123 said:
Morning,
I put my name in the London Marathon 2019 ballot and ended up getting a place! I’m starting to panic that I’m not going to be anywhere near ready!
Any words of advice or just a big kick up the arse from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
Well as I got a rejection letter ………….AGAINI put my name in the London Marathon 2019 ballot and ended up getting a place! I’m starting to panic that I’m not going to be anywhere near ready!
Any words of advice or just a big kick up the arse from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
It's a big kick up the arse from me
Went out for my first reasonable distance run on xmas eve. Just 10k, but it's the first decent run I've done since tearing a ligament in my foot in October. I suspect I could have gone out sooner, but I'd rather be sure the injury was 100% healed than take a chance.
My usual out-and-back route on ROW footpaths along fields and byways. Was very wet and soft underfoot, but I was impressed at the grip offered by the Speedcross 4.
My usual out-and-back route on ROW footpaths along fields and byways. Was very wet and soft underfoot, but I was impressed at the grip offered by the Speedcross 4.
Sounds like a sensible approach.
Can't knock the SC4's for general training on trails. Mudclaws grip better in those sort of conditions but aren't very forgiving when the trail toughens up. I view them as a bit of a niche/specific shoe, whereas I probably do more trail miles in SC4's than any other trail shoe (I've got 5 pairs to chose from, so that's about as good a compliment as I can pay them.) Dirt cheap too.
Can't knock the SC4's for general training on trails. Mudclaws grip better in those sort of conditions but aren't very forgiving when the trail toughens up. I view them as a bit of a niche/specific shoe, whereas I probably do more trail miles in SC4's than any other trail shoe (I've got 5 pairs to chose from, so that's about as good a compliment as I can pay them.) Dirt cheap too.
I've switched from running to walking in the last few months and surprisingly I'm really, really enjoying it.
Far less events to sign up for as it's a case of finding ones suitable and with cut off times doable at 4mph or less, but I'm doing the Stonehenge Stomp in a few weeks (40k), Bath Beat in April and the Henley 24hr in June, I may try and squeeze in one of the Ultra Challenges, the Jurassic Coast one looks good.
I found with running it was remarkably stop start, I'd get colds and illnesses regularly and I struggled to find the time to keep up the mileage to do the sort of runs I liked (really, really long ones). With walking I can have a month off and go out and do a 20 miler no bother and my illnesses have all but ceased.
Far less events to sign up for as it's a case of finding ones suitable and with cut off times doable at 4mph or less, but I'm doing the Stonehenge Stomp in a few weeks (40k), Bath Beat in April and the Henley 24hr in June, I may try and squeeze in one of the Ultra Challenges, the Jurassic Coast one looks good.
I found with running it was remarkably stop start, I'd get colds and illnesses regularly and I struggled to find the time to keep up the mileage to do the sort of runs I liked (really, really long ones). With walking I can have a month off and go out and do a 20 miler no bother and my illnesses have all but ceased.
Welcome to 2019! I'll chuck my 2018 stats up, but suffice to say Kilian Jornet puts me to shame. In his own words, he hasn't trained this little since 2006...
@kilianj 30 Dec
2018 is ending. It has been a fun year, with some up & downs, with 3 injuries (shoulder surgery, broken fibula and hip flexor tendinitis) but good recover's and lot's of fun in races and mountains. Here some insights of the training during this year:
@kilianj
I have been 92 days off due to injury, and 4 days sic.
I have train endurance 804h (I didn’t train this little since 2006!!) with 463.600m of elevation, in 390 sessions.
@kilianj
This was 503h of running with 237.500m and 2972km,
115h of skimo with 194.200m,
143h of cycling with 30.300m
And off the endurance training it was also 43 hours of sport climbing and 82h of gym.
WTAF?
@kilianj 30 Dec
2018 is ending. It has been a fun year, with some up & downs, with 3 injuries (shoulder surgery, broken fibula and hip flexor tendinitis) but good recover's and lot's of fun in races and mountains. Here some insights of the training during this year:
@kilianj
I have been 92 days off due to injury, and 4 days sic.
I have train endurance 804h (I didn’t train this little since 2006!!) with 463.600m of elevation, in 390 sessions.
@kilianj
This was 503h of running with 237.500m and 2972km,
115h of skimo with 194.200m,
143h of cycling with 30.300m
And off the endurance training it was also 43 hours of sport climbing and 82h of gym.
WTAF?
ukaskew said:
I've switched from running to walking in the last few months and surprisingly I'm really, really enjoying it.
Far less events to sign up for as it's a case of finding ones suitable and with cut off times doable at 4mph or less, but I'm doing the Stonehenge Stomp in a few weeks (40k), Bath Beat in April and the Henley 24hr in June, I may try and squeeze in one of the Ultra Challenges, the Jurassic Coast one looks good.
I found with running it was remarkably stop start, I'd get colds and illnesses regularly and I struggled to find the time to keep up the mileage to do the sort of runs I liked (really, really long ones). With walking I can have a month off and go out and do a 20 miler no bother and my illnesses have all but ceased.
Are you aware of the LDWA? https://www.ldwa.org.uk/Far less events to sign up for as it's a case of finding ones suitable and with cut off times doable at 4mph or less, but I'm doing the Stonehenge Stomp in a few weeks (40k), Bath Beat in April and the Henley 24hr in June, I may try and squeeze in one of the Ultra Challenges, the Jurassic Coast one looks good.
I found with running it was remarkably stop start, I'd get colds and illnesses regularly and I struggled to find the time to keep up the mileage to do the sort of runs I liked (really, really long ones). With walking I can have a month off and go out and do a 20 miler no bother and my illnesses have all but ceased.
ukaskew said:
I've switched from running to walking in the last few months and surprisingly I'm really, really enjoying it.
Far less events to sign up for as it's a case of finding ones suitable and with cut off times doable at 4mph or less, but I'm doing the Stonehenge Stomp in a few weeks (40k), Bath Beat in April and the Henley 24hr in June, I may try and squeeze in one of the Ultra Challenges, the Jurassic Coast one looks good.
I found with running it was remarkably stop start, I'd get colds and illnesses regularly and I struggled to find the time to keep up the mileage to do the sort of runs I liked (really, really long ones). With walking I can have a month off and go out and do a 20 miler no bother and my illnesses have all but ceased.
What's the age range of people?Far less events to sign up for as it's a case of finding ones suitable and with cut off times doable at 4mph or less, but I'm doing the Stonehenge Stomp in a few weeks (40k), Bath Beat in April and the Henley 24hr in June, I may try and squeeze in one of the Ultra Challenges, the Jurassic Coast one looks good.
I found with running it was remarkably stop start, I'd get colds and illnesses regularly and I struggled to find the time to keep up the mileage to do the sort of runs I liked (really, really long ones). With walking I can have a month off and go out and do a 20 miler no bother and my illnesses have all but ceased.
ukaskew said:
I've switched from running to walking in the last few months and surprisingly I'm really, really enjoying it.
Far less events to sign up for as it's a case of finding ones suitable and with cut off times doable at 4mph or less, but I'm doing the Stonehenge Stomp in a few weeks (40k), Bath Beat in April and the Henley 24hr in June, I may try and squeeze in one of the Ultra Challenges, the Jurassic Coast one looks good.
I found with running it was remarkably stop start, I'd get colds and illnesses regularly and I struggled to find the time to keep up the mileage to do the sort of runs I liked (really, really long ones). With walking I can have a month off and go out and do a 20 miler no bother and my illnesses have all but ceased.
I've done about 1500 miles in 3 years since I started running but I'm now starting to lean towards the view that just running all the time isn't the best way to stay healthy. Far less events to sign up for as it's a case of finding ones suitable and with cut off times doable at 4mph or less, but I'm doing the Stonehenge Stomp in a few weeks (40k), Bath Beat in April and the Henley 24hr in June, I may try and squeeze in one of the Ultra Challenges, the Jurassic Coast one looks good.
I found with running it was remarkably stop start, I'd get colds and illnesses regularly and I struggled to find the time to keep up the mileage to do the sort of runs I liked (really, really long ones). With walking I can have a month off and go out and do a 20 miler no bother and my illnesses have all but ceased.
I don't think I'll give it up but I'll cut down the mileage and start to make more use of my rowing machine, bicycle and local public swimming pool.
There was a doctor on a day time tv show a few months back saying that the human body isn't designed to run long distances - and if doing so it's better to use a run/walk method if you want to preserve your joints for later life.
And the longer I've been with my local club the more I'm noticing that older regular runners who do long distances are picking up injuries that go on for some time.
I don't have a medical background and I know not everyone is the same - but this is influencing my thinking a bit.
And the longer I've been with my local club the more I'm noticing that older regular runners who do long distances are picking up injuries that go on for some time.
I don't have a medical background and I know not everyone is the same - but this is influencing my thinking a bit.
Scabutz said:
tenohfive said:
Personal call, but if you went out and suffered through it in Jan I reckon you'd feel ten times better than you do now.
Performance is a moveable thing, it comes and goes and if you're thinking competitively then it's all completely relative to the rest of the field anyway.
It's understandable to not want to go into a race feeling like you've no way of hitting your potential. But going out, pushing yourself and knowing you've kept going when all you wanted to do is stop is something you can do at any fitness level. If anything, being out for longer than you might otherwise have been you're getting your money's worth out of the race. So I say do it.
A week ago I was in this frame of mind. I have always been about completion not competition - at 6'5'' and broad I'm a fPerformance is a moveable thing, it comes and goes and if you're thinking competitively then it's all completely relative to the rest of the field anyway.
It's understandable to not want to go into a race feeling like you've no way of hitting your potential. But going out, pushing yourself and knowing you've kept going when all you wanted to do is stop is something you can do at any fitness level. If anything, being out for longer than you might otherwise have been you're getting your money's worth out of the race. So I say do it.
king unit even at "race weight". I really don't think I am in a state to actually finish though. At my peak I was 94kg, running 45 min 10ks at the end of Oly triathlons. Currently I am 119kg and getting out of breath walking up the stairs at work.I could struggle through 24km, but in deep winter, with 35-40lbs extra on my back, up and over Pen-Y-Fan twice. Just don't think I can do it.
On Sunday we climbed a mountain to 475m, roughly half the Fan. I had 22lb, so 60% of what I will be carrying in the dance. My HR felt like it was at max, I was blowing out my arse.
tenohfive said:
The winter weather on FD is half the challenge anyway - you may miss the experience of trying to climb Jacobs Ladder with 60mph wind-driven rain in summer (although it's Wales, so even in summer that's a decent possibility.)
I know. That's what attracted me to it. I love pushing on in st weather. It will still be there in 2020 though! Treat the summer as a reccy and then go for it in a years time.tenohfive said:
Unless you're worried about injury. In which case, disregard everything I just said 
This is a genuine worry. If I were going to go for in Jan I would need to rag it for 5 weeks, including starving myself to shed weight. At the minute any weight bearing training is leaving my joints hurting: toes, ankle, knees and hips. The guy running the training on Sunday is former SAS, and obviously has done the FD for real, he was really nice about it, but I could tell he was really not impressed with the state I was in.I really need to tame my demons, I either eat and train like a pro athlete or eat and drink like Oliver Reed!
The weather was perfect for it, still, 5 degrees or so, great vis. Shame if you didn't have a go this time.
Mothersruin said:
We were up at The Gap this morning and had a chat with one of the guys manning the CP there. I take it you didn't partake over this weekend?
The weather was perfect for it, still, 5 degrees or so, great vis. Shame if you didn't have a go this time.
No i didn't. On from my previous poosts I have been ill over Xmas, flu into chest infection. Still coughing now. Always next time.The weather was perfect for it, still, 5 degrees or so, great vis. Shame if you didn't have a go this time.
Scabutz said:
Mothersruin said:
We were up at The Gap this morning and had a chat with one of the guys manning the CP there. I take it you didn't partake over this weekend?
The weather was perfect for it, still, 5 degrees or so, great vis. Shame if you didn't have a go this time.
No i didn't. On from my previous poosts I have been ill over Xmas, flu into chest infection. Still coughing now. Always next time.The weather was perfect for it, still, 5 degrees or so, great vis. Shame if you didn't have a go this time.
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