The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
BenjiS said:
Ashby 20 today. Brilliant conditions for it, sadly my legs were nowhere near as good.
As my first 20 miler of 3 in prep for Edinburgh marathon things aren’t looking good at all (to put it in perspective I ran Ashby half an hour slower than I’ve run any marathon or 20 mile previously).
Motivate me to keep at it folks. I’m supposed to be doing 18 as a long run next weekend and really don’t know if I can be bothered.
If it didn't kill you, it probably made you stronger. Don't compare performance to other people or unrealistic plans, just enjoy the run, in and of itself. We all have up days and down days. HTFU. As my first 20 miler of 3 in prep for Edinburgh marathon things aren’t looking good at all (to put it in perspective I ran Ashby half an hour slower than I’ve run any marathon or 20 mile previously).
Motivate me to keep at it folks. I’m supposed to be doing 18 as a long run next weekend and really don’t know if I can be bothered.
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Added 2km to my usual 10k route, which also introduces a decent climb (as decent as a climb can be here in Cambs), also pushed hard for the last k on the return leg and felt surprisingly good. I think I need to work harder at upping my pace a little as I've obviously got more to give
JimmyConwayNW said:
Hi Rizzo,
Emailed asking to price match a deal I believe to have seen on another site (blacks/Cotwswold iirc) that was showing as out of stock.
They emailed back with a price match right away saying no problem. Was too good a deal to pass up. Looks a cracking it of kit.
Hell of a deal! My 5s Plus arrived on Friday at the somewhat higher price of the Cotswold deal. I've spent far too long fiddling with and love it, my only complaint is the straps of the S are shorter than the other models, and I'm only 3 or 4 holes from the end. Apparently the quick release bit of the standard straps is the same width though so you can trim the silicon down to make them fit. Tempted to get a NATO style fabric strap though. Emailed asking to price match a deal I believe to have seen on another site (blacks/Cotwswold iirc) that was showing as out of stock.
They emailed back with a price match right away saying no problem. Was too good a deal to pass up. Looks a cracking it of kit.
Scabutz said:
C0ffin D0dger said:
Whilst on the subject of bags, I need something to carry a bit of water, a gel, some sweets, etc. on my longer runs, only going up to half marathon distance this year and probably not often so don't want to spend a fortune.
I was thinking of something along the lines of the Salomon Agile 2 but don't really want to spend that much. See there are a few Chinese clones around for less. Is this the right sort of thing or do I not need to even need that much capacity?
On the actual half I intend to do there should be plenty of drinks stations so in reality probably just need to shove a gel and a few jelly babies in a pocket somewhere for the main event.
Any recommendations thanks?
How about this:I was thinking of something along the lines of the Salomon Agile 2 but don't really want to spend that much. See there are a few Chinese clones around for less. Is this the right sort of thing or do I not need to even need that much capacity?
On the actual half I intend to do there should be plenty of drinks stations so in reality probably just need to shove a gel and a few jelly babies in a pocket somewhere for the main event.
Any recommendations thanks?
https://www.decathlon.co.uk/trail-running-backpack...
Has 1l bladder included, should be enough space for your gear. If you want to carry less water you can get soft flasks to go in the front pockets.
For a half unless you are in the 3 hour category you probably only need 3 gels and water from the stations so the bag wont be needed in the event.
Useful for training though as you'll need to carry water. I usually use a larger camelbak and put gets in a pouch on triathlon number belt. I am a ery heavy sweater and training in summer I need a good amount of water
RizzoTheRat said:
Hell of a deal! My 5s Plus arrived on Friday at the somewhat higher price of the Cotswold deal. I've spent far too long fiddling with and love it, my only complaint is the straps of the S are shorter than the other models, and I'm only 3 or 4 holes from the end. Apparently the quick release bit of the standard straps is the same width though so you can trim the silicon down to make them fit. Tempted to get a NATO style fabric strap though.
Its absolutely brilliant and I haven't even worked out how to use half of it yet. Credit to John Lewis on the price match deal.Back to enjoying my running having strung together a good few weeks without making my shins worse. Now no long races on my calendar, so I shall be enjoying some shorter races and training for 10-21k stuff for a while to get back some speed and some family time. My club tends to race regularly under ten miles too, so it's good to be in shape for that stuff.
I'm embarking on a diet experiment to see how it affects my fueling when exercising (and drop some excessive pounds, and help me quit sugar for good), so it's also good not to be doing super-stressful long runs.
Hopefully I'll be in parkrun pb shape come June/July too, which will be fun/wildly uncomfortable.
I'm embarking on a diet experiment to see how it affects my fueling when exercising (and drop some excessive pounds, and help me quit sugar for good), so it's also good not to be doing super-stressful long runs.
Hopefully I'll be in parkrun pb shape come June/July too, which will be fun/wildly uncomfortable.
I'm wanting to re-enter the world of running (ex cross country/long distance runner at school). I'm not needing or wanting to lose weight (I'm a lanky 6ft), but I need to get fitter for various reasons.
I'll be running mainly through fields or along cycle trails (High Peak/Tissington Trail) in the Derbyshire countryside. At this stage I don't want to spend a fortune on shoes, but need something that will suit both of these situations.
Can anyone recommend any suitable running shoes, for say around £50-£60?
Thanks!
I'll be running mainly through fields or along cycle trails (High Peak/Tissington Trail) in the Derbyshire countryside. At this stage I don't want to spend a fortune on shoes, but need something that will suit both of these situations.
Can anyone recommend any suitable running shoes, for say around £50-£60?
Thanks!
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Ran my first road half marathon yesterday, in Sheffield. I don’t race on the road much, maybe two or three of the local 10k races, and my local parkrun is all tarmac, but that’s it. I do a lot of fell running though, usually between five and fifteen miles, so I thought I’d be fine.
I had a bit of adductor pain start at the eight mile mark, which progressively worsened until the finish, the last two miles being very painful.
I finished in 1:37:10, which is about what I expected, but I did not expect the amount of leg pain, my adductors, quads and calf muscles were on fire, come the evening I could hardly walk, and I’m much the same today. I think I’ll stick to running up and down big hills, through rocks, rivers and mud, as running on a consistent hard surface definitely does not agree with me...
I had a bit of adductor pain start at the eight mile mark, which progressively worsened until the finish, the last two miles being very painful.
I finished in 1:37:10, which is about what I expected, but I did not expect the amount of leg pain, my adductors, quads and calf muscles were on fire, come the evening I could hardly walk, and I’m much the same today. I think I’ll stick to running up and down big hills, through rocks, rivers and mud, as running on a consistent hard surface definitely does not agree with me...
gazza285 said:
Ran my first road half marathon yesterday, in Sheffield. I don’t race on the road much, maybe two or three of the local 10k races, and my local parkrun is all tarmac, but that’s it. I do a lot of fell running though, usually between five and fifteen miles, so I thought I’d be fine.
I had a bit of adductor pain start at the eight mile mark, which progressively worsened until the finish, the last two miles being very painful.
I finished in 1:37:10, which is about what I expected, but I did not expect the amount of leg pain, my adductors, quads and calf muscles were on fire, come the evening I could hardly walk, and I’m much the same today. I think I’ll stick to running up and down big hills, through rocks, rivers and mud, as running on a consistent hard surface definitely does not agree with me...
I've had to stop road running as the rsi niggles were constant. As soon as I switched to trail, they stopped with the added benefit of my legs getting much stronger.I had a bit of adductor pain start at the eight mile mark, which progressively worsened until the finish, the last two miles being very painful.
I finished in 1:37:10, which is about what I expected, but I did not expect the amount of leg pain, my adductors, quads and calf muscles were on fire, come the evening I could hardly walk, and I’m much the same today. I think I’ll stick to running up and down big hills, through rocks, rivers and mud, as running on a consistent hard surface definitely does not agree with me...
Also, chasing times/distances disappeared. Now I just work out how much time I have and go and get covered in mud for as long as I can.
Mothersruin said:
I've had to stop road running as the rsi niggles were constant. As soon as I switched to trail, they stopped with the added benefit of my legs getting much stronger.
This could be a chicken and the egg though.Your legs are stronger now. By which I interpret you are using more muscles to run off road than on road due to the uneven surface or more twisting in your core etc. The result is you are more resistant to injuries.
S1KRR said:
Mothersruin said:
I've had to stop road running as the rsi niggles were constant. As soon as I switched to trail, they stopped with the added benefit of my legs getting much stronger.
This could be a chicken and the egg though.Your legs are stronger now. By which I interpret you are using more muscles to run off road than on road due to the uneven surface or more twisting in your core etc. The result is you are more resistant to injuries.
On a long road run, I find that I get some notable knee pain after about 10k, which I put down to the camber on pavements and roads. The inconsistency of the surface on the trails means I don't get that discomfort. Even now, switching to road after a couple of years of trail and the discomfort quickly returns, yet I can do much greater distances on trail without any niggling pain.
feef said:
S1KRR said:
Mothersruin said:
I've had to stop road running as the rsi niggles were constant. As soon as I switched to trail, they stopped with the added benefit of my legs getting much stronger.
This could be a chicken and the egg though.Your legs are stronger now. By which I interpret you are using more muscles to run off road than on road due to the uneven surface or more twisting in your core etc. The result is you are more resistant to injuries.
On a long road run, I find that I get some notable knee pain after about 10k, which I put down to the camber on pavements and roads. The inconsistency of the surface on the trails means I don't get that discomfort. Even now, switching to road after a couple of years of trail and the discomfort quickly returns, yet I can do much greater distances on trail without any niggling pain.
Whilst we are on the subject of road vs trail I have a question. I am planning on a trail ultra towards the end of the year. This is nothing technical, its almost all established paths. But its 100% off-road and there a lots and lots of hills.
How much trail running should I be doing, as opposed to road. What I mean is that doing all my training on trails is not possible due to time constraints and where I live. My plan involves 5 runs per week, 3 of them are easy starting at 4-6 miles and building a little. The Friday / Saturday are back to back LSRs. Fridays I will run to work which is all road. When the Friday runs get long I can incorporate some trails and then finish on the road. My nearest trails are about 2 mile run away, so doing 4-6 milers I am going to get 0-2 miles actually on trails.
I could in theory drive and do all trails but the trail area I have is not huge and that wont always be practical.
I think the Saturday LSR I can definitely drive to some proper trails and do a decent stint there.
If I am mixing trail and road should I be carrying different shoes and swapping them? The ultra I am doing is going to involve carrying some mandatory kit so will need to get used to running with a pack.
How much trail running should I be doing, as opposed to road. What I mean is that doing all my training on trails is not possible due to time constraints and where I live. My plan involves 5 runs per week, 3 of them are easy starting at 4-6 miles and building a little. The Friday / Saturday are back to back LSRs. Fridays I will run to work which is all road. When the Friday runs get long I can incorporate some trails and then finish on the road. My nearest trails are about 2 mile run away, so doing 4-6 milers I am going to get 0-2 miles actually on trails.
I could in theory drive and do all trails but the trail area I have is not huge and that wont always be practical.
I think the Saturday LSR I can definitely drive to some proper trails and do a decent stint there.
If I am mixing trail and road should I be carrying different shoes and swapping them? The ultra I am doing is going to involve carrying some mandatory kit so will need to get used to running with a pack.
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