The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
RobM77 said:
andy_s said:
RobM77 said:
The only annoying thing is the sloshing sound from the water.
Soft flasks? I'll never understand how some people run carrying those bottles with a hole through the middle for your fingers, the sloshing annoys the crap out of me.
I'm lucky that I tend to run through the dunes which are used for water extraction, and there aer drinks fountains dotted about. For longer runs elsewhere I have a belt that takes 2 small bottles, don't really notice the sloshing in them.
I'm lucky that I tend to run through the dunes which are used for water extraction, and there aer drinks fountains dotted about. For longer runs elsewhere I have a belt that takes 2 small bottles, don't really notice the sloshing in them.
Edited by RizzoTheRat on Monday 24th June 13:12
FredClogs said:
Did my first half marathon race yesterday, 1:56, pretty pleased with that but the last 3 miles were tough. (didn't win obviously, winner did 1:10, I means seriously Wtf!)
Think I need to get my feet looked at too, do people suggest gait analysis and insoles are worthy of looking into? There is a specialist running shop near me.
Mo Farah’s feet will be a bit sore after 13 milesThink I need to get my feet looked at too, do people suggest gait analysis and insoles are worthy of looking into? There is a specialist running shop near me.
Unless you gave a specific problem i’d save your money. I know people who had severe problems after taking so called advice..
Jimboka said:
FredClogs said:
Did my first half marathon race yesterday, 1:56, pretty pleased with that but the last 3 miles were tough. (didn't win obviously, winner did 1:10, I means seriously Wtf!)
Think I need to get my feet looked at too, do people suggest gait analysis and insoles are worthy of looking into? There is a specialist running shop near me.
Mo Farah’s feet will be a bit sore after 13 milesThink I need to get my feet looked at too, do people suggest gait analysis and insoles are worthy of looking into? There is a specialist running shop near me.
Unless you gave a specific problem i’d save your money. I know people who had severe problems after taking so called advice..
Now on the subject of sore feet and trail running trainers are they all a lot less cushioned than road shoes. I have tried a couple of pairs of Salomon and now bought some inov8 ultraltalon290 which have been the best so far but I find I would prefer something with just a little more cushioning. Is there a more cushioned trail shoe anyone can suggest?
Did a good run last night around 7pm at Delamere Forest, didn't see a soul for the entire duration after a hellish day was complete bliss and reminded me to switch up my running locations as pretty much been doing the same route lately and becoming a bit bored.
JimmyConwayNW said:
I find you just get a bit more used to it.
Now on the subject of sore feet and trail running trainers are they all a lot less cushioned than road shoes. I have tried a couple of pairs of Salomon and now bought some inov8 ultraltalon290 which have been the best so far but I find I would prefer something with just a little more cushioning. Is there a more cushioned trail shoe anyone can suggest?
Did a good run last night around 7pm at Delamere Forest, didn't see a soul for the entire duration after a hellish day was complete bliss and reminded me to switch up my running locations as pretty much been doing the same route lately and becoming a bit bored.
Hey Jimmy, not sure whether you mean the x-talon ultra 260 or the trail talon 290 - presume the former, I found these very good myself - I've settled on x-talon 212 for shorter (5-10 / hill), x-talon 260 for longer (15-25 trail / hill) and roclite 260 for v long (>20 trail/mixed). They don't do that roclite any more (they change so frequently at inov8) but I'd imagine the equivalent would be good as they keep the wider toe box - perhaps the 300 or similar - which of course are also fine for any distance. Now on the subject of sore feet and trail running trainers are they all a lot less cushioned than road shoes. I have tried a couple of pairs of Salomon and now bought some inov8 ultraltalon290 which have been the best so far but I find I would prefer something with just a little more cushioning. Is there a more cushioned trail shoe anyone can suggest?
Did a good run last night around 7pm at Delamere Forest, didn't see a soul for the entire duration after a hellish day was complete bliss and reminded me to switch up my running locations as pretty much been doing the same route lately and becoming a bit bored.
I'm tempted to try the new graphene ones but a. they're expensive [but last longer...] and b. have 0 drop. Thing I found about the x-talons is that although they are thinner, the compound has lots of give, so weren't as harsh as I thought they may be on paper.
Either that or just HTFU of course....
JimmyConwayNW said:
Now on the subject of sore feet and trail running trainers are they all a lot less cushioned than road shoes. I have tried a couple of pairs of Salomon and now bought some inov8 ultraltalon290 which have been the best so far but I find I would prefer something with just a little more cushioning. Is there a more cushioned trail shoe anyone can suggest?
I use a pair of Asics GT2000 5 Trail when I want something with more give, they have nicely filled the gap in my shoe collection between my road and fell shoes previously occupied by a pair of Speedcross 3 shoes.Been doing a lot of distance stuff recently and really not working on strength at all. I like just plodding along and going as far as I'm comfortable. But last night I was a little short of time, so went back to my 5K route and ran it as intervals/fartlek. Took half an hour rather than 24 minutes, and jeez do my muscles know it this morning!
I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
feef said:
Been doing a lot of distance stuff recently and really not working on strength at all. I like just plodding along and going as far as I'm comfortable. But last night I was a little short of time, so went back to my 5K route and ran it as intervals/fartlek. Took half an hour rather than 24 minutes, and jeez do my muscles know it this morning!
I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
That sounds about right and as expected. Whilst distance running will help with aspects of the physiology required to run a 5k, it won't train other aspects, as you've discovered.I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
Definitely do the type of running you enjoy though! Life's short
I train for 5k, so do a range of paces and distances along with gym work and like the variety. I can definitely see the appeal of long slow runs though and I do look forward to them.RobM77 said:
feef said:
Been doing a lot of distance stuff recently and really not working on strength at all. I like just plodding along and going as far as I'm comfortable. But last night I was a little short of time, so went back to my 5K route and ran it as intervals/fartlek. Took half an hour rather than 24 minutes, and jeez do my muscles know it this morning!
I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
That sounds about right and as expected. Whilst distance running will help with aspects of the physiology required to run a 5k, it won't train other aspects, as you've discovered.I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
Definitely do the type of running you enjoy though! Life's short
I train for 5k, so do a range of paces and distances along with gym work and like the variety. I can definitely see the appeal of long slow runs though and I do look forward to them.I can feel that same tenderness this morning albeit at a much reduced level, so suspect that this might help strengthen the aductor muscles. I have a tentative theory that I have a slight instability in my left knee and that's what caused my aductor to strain on the marathon: compensating for that weakness.
feef said:
RobM77 said:
feef said:
Been doing a lot of distance stuff recently and really not working on strength at all. I like just plodding along and going as far as I'm comfortable. But last night I was a little short of time, so went back to my 5K route and ran it as intervals/fartlek. Took half an hour rather than 24 minutes, and jeez do my muscles know it this morning!
I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
That sounds about right and as expected. Whilst distance running will help with aspects of the physiology required to run a 5k, it won't train other aspects, as you've discovered.I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
Definitely do the type of running you enjoy though! Life's short
I train for 5k, so do a range of paces and distances along with gym work and like the variety. I can definitely see the appeal of long slow runs though and I do look forward to them.I can feel that same tenderness this morning albeit at a much reduced level, so suspect that this might help strengthen the aductor muscles. I have a tentative theory that I have a slight instability in my left knee and that's what caused my aductor to strain on the marathon: compensating for that weakness.
You can see this reflected in training programs (for example, the Firman one I recommended earlier in the thread). Even runners who major on slow distance work (for example using 80:20) do speed and gym work alongside. Again though, it depends how serious you are. If you enjoy going for a long slow plod every time and are happy with that pace in a race, there's no reason to change. We all run for fun. Personally, although I love just running, I am also competitive with myself and set myself goal times, which requires me to train properly to achieve those times.RobM77 said:
feef said:
RobM77 said:
feef said:
Been doing a lot of distance stuff recently and really not working on strength at all. I like just plodding along and going as far as I'm comfortable. But last night I was a little short of time, so went back to my 5K route and ran it as intervals/fartlek. Took half an hour rather than 24 minutes, and jeez do my muscles know it this morning!
I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
That sounds about right and as expected. Whilst distance running will help with aspects of the physiology required to run a 5k, it won't train other aspects, as you've discovered.I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
Definitely do the type of running you enjoy though! Life's short
I train for 5k, so do a range of paces and distances along with gym work and like the variety. I can definitely see the appeal of long slow runs though and I do look forward to them.I can feel that same tenderness this morning albeit at a much reduced level, so suspect that this might help strengthen the aductor muscles. I have a tentative theory that I have a slight instability in my left knee and that's what caused my aductor to strain on the marathon: compensating for that weakness.
You can see this reflected in training programs (for example, the Firman one I recommended earlier in the thread). Even runners who major on slow distance work (for example using 80:20) do speed and gym work alongside. Again though, it depends how serious you are. If you enjoy going for a long slow plod every time and are happy with that pace in a race, there's no reason to change. We all run for fun. Personally, although I love just running, I am also competitive with myself and set myself goal times, which requires me to train properly to achieve those times.For example, focussing on pace, heart-rate and breathing when I run. I like to run at a pace that I can keep all 3 balanced and seeing how they all fluctuate while being dependent on each other is enjoyable to me.
I blame my 20 years as a DBA
feef said:
RobM77 said:
feef said:
RobM77 said:
feef said:
Been doing a lot of distance stuff recently and really not working on strength at all. I like just plodding along and going as far as I'm comfortable. But last night I was a little short of time, so went back to my 5K route and ran it as intervals/fartlek. Took half an hour rather than 24 minutes, and jeez do my muscles know it this morning!
I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
That sounds about right and as expected. Whilst distance running will help with aspects of the physiology required to run a 5k, it won't train other aspects, as you've discovered.I didn't enjoy it as much, I find 'training' doesn't really give me the motivation that a long run does, but I think I may need to just try and motivate myself to do this a little more frequently. It can only help in the long run (pun intended)
Definitely do the type of running you enjoy though! Life's short
I train for 5k, so do a range of paces and distances along with gym work and like the variety. I can definitely see the appeal of long slow runs though and I do look forward to them.I can feel that same tenderness this morning albeit at a much reduced level, so suspect that this might help strengthen the aductor muscles. I have a tentative theory that I have a slight instability in my left knee and that's what caused my aductor to strain on the marathon: compensating for that weakness.
You can see this reflected in training programs (for example, the Firman one I recommended earlier in the thread). Even runners who major on slow distance work (for example using 80:20) do speed and gym work alongside. Again though, it depends how serious you are. If you enjoy going for a long slow plod every time and are happy with that pace in a race, there's no reason to change. We all run for fun. Personally, although I love just running, I am also competitive with myself and set myself goal times, which requires me to train properly to achieve those times.For example, focussing on pace, heart-rate and breathing when I run. I like to run at a pace that I can keep all 3 balanced and seeing how they all fluctuate while being dependent on each other is enjoyable to me.
I blame my 20 years as a DBA
Well that was different.
Just back from the KLM Urban Trail Run in Den Haag. The 10k route included going through the National Theatre, a cinema (showing film clips of people running in movies), the courtyard of the parliament building, the national archives, a nightclub, a bar (with tables set up for spectators with a drink), a department store (up 4 flights of stairs, through the sportswear section, and back down again), a museum (another 4 flights of stairs), a couple of parks, and some lovely gardens. Very slow as we had to walk in several places but great fun.
Shame I've only just found out about the series as it seems there have been several within a reasonable distance of here over the last few months. There's only 4 left in the season and most are miles away. One in November in Haarlem is only about an hour away which is tempting.
No idea if there are similar races i the UK but if you ever hear of one do it, they're a great laugh.
Just back from the KLM Urban Trail Run in Den Haag. The 10k route included going through the National Theatre, a cinema (showing film clips of people running in movies), the courtyard of the parliament building, the national archives, a nightclub, a bar (with tables set up for spectators with a drink
), a department store (up 4 flights of stairs, through the sportswear section, and back down again), a museum (another 4 flights of stairs), a couple of parks, and some lovely gardens. Very slow as we had to walk in several places but great fun.Shame I've only just found out about the series as it seems there have been several within a reasonable distance of here over the last few months. There's only 4 left in the season and most are miles away. One in November in Haarlem is only about an hour away which is tempting.
No idea if there are similar races i the UK but if you ever hear of one do it, they're a great laugh.
Jimboka said:
FredClogs said:
Did my first half marathon race yesterday, 1:56, pretty pleased with that but the last 3 miles were tough. (didn't win obviously, winner did 1:10, I means seriously Wtf!)
Think I need to get my feet looked at too, do people suggest gait analysis and insoles are worthy of looking into? There is a specialist running shop near me.
Mo Farah’s feet will be a bit sore after 13 milesThink I need to get my feet looked at too, do people suggest gait analysis and insoles are worthy of looking into? There is a specialist running shop near me.
Unless you gave a specific problem i’d save your money. I know people who had severe problems after taking so called advice..
Anyway I was due some new trainers (400 miles on the old Asics) so went to the running shop, where the guy informed me I had deformed feet "blimey that's the biggest Haglunds lump I've ever seen" were his exact words. I was in there an hour and he seemed very knowledgeable. It's very interesting seeing your feet run in slow motion. Naturally I left the shop £125 lighter and some brooks Adrenalin 19s and went sub 22 at parkrun for the first time on saturday and I've been walking the hills for 3 hours today in relative comfort, so far so good.
Mezger said:
Are there any recommended websites to download training plans from? Aiming for a reasonable 10k time by the end of the year.
Take your pick: https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/training-plans/Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff