The Running Thread Vol 2
Discussion
RobM77 said:
Smitters said:
RobM77 said:
I started out running trying the Furman training plan, which is 3 key runs a week and the rest in cross-training. Not sure about you, but I just find cross training really impractical, particularly from work. With swimming you've got the journey to and from the pool, which in a lunch hour leaves with a tiny amount of time for swimming. Furthermore, you've got the usual problems with lane swimming (availability of lane swimming, especially during school holidays; kids going the wrong way; slow people in the fast lane when overtaking's not really possible etc). With cycling you've got to take your bike to work with you, which usually involves unloading the bike from your car and attaching wheels etc before you can get going, and you've also got to find suitable roads that are safe enough. I've ended up just doing easy runs between the three core runs - running seems to be by far the most flexible sport.
Whereas I just can't sustain that much running. Believe me, I'd love to. Plus, I'm doing a Tough Mudder, so need some strength training to get through that, plus the gym is "prehab" for me - and provides the foundation for the running improvements with targeted core, running specific and compound exercises. I get some time between 1130 and 1400 every day, meetings dependent, so I run from, and shower at, the office except the weekend. The gym is 5 mins from the office, so that's the other lunchtimes. Swimming is 8.15pm on a Sunday, after the kids are in bed and five mins drive away. I'll be using a Wattbike in the gym, so for me, this means the only impact on family time is the weekend long run. It also present a far healthier alternative to sitting at my desk eating a Tesco meal deal, which was 2018's typical lunch. Having assessed my requirements of minimal impact for maximum bang for buck, I'm not sure I can do better. Except getting new shins, obvs.
egor110 said:
What cross training have you found helped your running most ?
I go to gym 3 times a week and either do a kettlebell class or a 5k on treadmill then squats and bench press.
I'm only ever there a hour though.
A combination of cycling and the odd weights session focussing on core, jumps and few others has really helped me.I go to gym 3 times a week and either do a kettlebell class or a 5k on treadmill then squats and bench press.
I'm only ever there a hour though.
egor110 said:
What cross training have you found helped your running most ?
I go to gym 3 times a week and either do a kettlebell class or a 5k on treadmill then squats and bench press.
I'm only ever there a hour though.
Usually people are referring to cardiovascular exercise when they talk about cross training. Cycling or swimming for example will increase your CV fitness (e.g. VO2 Max) and therefore help your running.I go to gym 3 times a week and either do a kettlebell class or a 5k on treadmill then squats and bench press.
I'm only ever there a hour though.
With regards to weights in the gym though, many runners do strength training to make themselves faster and reduce the chances of injury. I have a routine of just over an hour that I do twice a week.
egor110 said:
What cross training have you found helped your running most ?
I go to gym 3 times a week and either do a kettlebell class or a 5k on treadmill then squats and bench press.
I'm only ever there a hour though.
Wattbike for intense intervals ~ 30 secs up to 10 mins.I go to gym 3 times a week and either do a kettlebell class or a 5k on treadmill then squats and bench press.
I'm only ever there a hour though.
Core - all sorts but including some opposing arm/leg stuff to mimic the running action across the core.
Compound lifts for strength.
Single leg stuff for stability.
Core has made the most significant difference.
7 marathons on 7 continents in 7 days. Well, 81 hours, 38 minutes, and 46 seconds...including travel. Not too shabby!
https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a30926751/world...
https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a30926751/world...
Famous race on here over the weekend, Last one standing in castle ward. Over 100 started out at midday on Saturday, 4 mile loop of the forest during storm Dennis and back on the staring line on the hour every hour.
Incredible running and endurance, the winner finished at 5am this morning with 172 miles clocked up.
Incredible running and endurance, the winner finished at 5am this morning with 172 miles clocked up.
joshcowin said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Hundreds on YouTube - look up sage canaday or his missus channel - sandy usually linked in description !
Thanks
Both are excellent. On You Tube I also recommend Ben Parkes, whose a former sales executive who jacked his job in to run for a living - mainly coaching and getting faster at the marathon, but recently a You Tube channel as well. Huge respect for that and he's a great presenter.
Also look up James Dunne - Kinetic Revolution (You Tube and Facebook). He's a running injury specialist from Norfolk who's full of great advice.
The Running Channel on You Tube is also pretty good: they do good summaries of info out there on running and post about a video a week on all aspects of running.
RobM77 said:
Both are excellent. On You Tube I also recommend Ben Parkes, whose a former sales executive who jacked his job in to run for a living - mainly coaching and getting faster at the marathon, but recently a You Tube channel as well. Huge respect for that and he's a great presenter.
Also look up James Dunne - Kinetic Revolution (You Tube and Facebook). He's a running injury specialist from Norfolk who's full of great advice.
The Running Channel on You Tube is also pretty good: they do good summaries of info out there on running and post about a video a week on all aspects of running.
I also like the American bloke Seth he is a decent runner, a little over enthusiastic but not terrible!
RobM77 said:
joshcowin said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Hundreds on YouTube - look up sage canaday or his missus channel - sandy usually linked in description !
Thanks Both are excellent. On You Tube I also recommend Ben Parkes, whose a former sales executive who jacked his job in to run for a living - mainly coaching and getting faster at the marathon, but recently a You Tube channel as well. Huge respect for that and he's a great presenter.
Also look up James Dunne - Kinetic Revolution (You Tube and Facebook). He's a running injury specialist from Norfolk who's full of great advice.
The Running Channel on You Tube is also pretty good: they do good summaries of info out there on running and post about a video a week on all aspects of running.
Re stretching search post run yoga on YouTube and you'll get loads .
irish boy said:
Famous race on here over the weekend, Last one standing in castle ward. Over 100 started out at midday on Saturday, 4 mile loop of the forest during storm Dennis and back on the staring line on the hour every hour.
Incredible running and endurance, the winner finished at 5am this morning with 172 miles clocked up.
Wow that's incredible!Incredible running and endurance, the winner finished at 5am this morning with 172 miles clocked up.
RobM77 said:
Both are excellent. On You Tube I also recommend Ben Parkes, whose a former sales executive who jacked his job in to run for a living - mainly coaching and getting faster at the marathon, but recently a You Tube channel as well. Huge respect for that and he's a great presenter.
Also look up James Dunne - Kinetic Revolution (You Tube and Facebook). He's a running injury specialist from Norfolk who's full of great advice.
The Running Channel on You Tube is also pretty good: they do good summaries of info out there on running and post about a video a week on all aspects of running.
He's just had it cut actually - it used to be huge!new 5km road run WR
so beautiful to watch - graceful, long stride - he makes it seem effortless and you only really get a sense of the speed when he slows to take a corner.
so beautiful to watch - graceful, long stride - he makes it seem effortless and you only really get a sense of the speed when he slows to take a corner.
SpydieNut said:
new 5km road run WR
so beautiful to watch - graceful, long stride - he makes it seem effortless and you only really get a sense of the speed when he slows to take a corner.
so beautiful to watch - graceful, long stride - he makes it seem effortless and you only really get a sense of the speed when he slows to take a corner.
I watched that last night and thought the same. I could watch him run all day There's something noticeably different about the really top echelon of runners like Cheptegei, Rudisha and Kipchoge, even to my untrained eye; their form is so smooth.SpydieNut said:
new 5km road run WR
so beautiful to watch - graceful, long stride - he makes it seem effortless and you only really get a sense of the speed when he slows to take a corner.
The real way to get a sense of his speed is to crank a treadmill up to 23.3km/hr (Kipchoge's sub 2 was only 21.2ish so beautiful to watch - graceful, long stride - he makes it seem effortless and you only really get a sense of the speed when he slows to take a corner.
) and try to run on it. It's what always blows me away about quick distance runners - the speed they can hold is basically a flat out sprint for even very fit people.
Did Kipsang’s ban get covered?
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.runnersworld.co...
“ German broadcaster Deutche Wells estimates that 60 Kenyan athletes have been sanctioned for violating anti-doping procedures in the last five years, including 2008 Olympic 1,500-meter champion Asbel Kiprop, 2016 Olympic marathon winner Jemimah Sumgong and former Boston and Chicago Marathon winner Rita Jeptoo.”
Sorry if it’s a repost.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.runnersworld.co...
“ German broadcaster Deutche Wells estimates that 60 Kenyan athletes have been sanctioned for violating anti-doping procedures in the last five years, including 2008 Olympic 1,500-meter champion Asbel Kiprop, 2016 Olympic marathon winner Jemimah Sumgong and former Boston and Chicago Marathon winner Rita Jeptoo.”
Sorry if it’s a repost.
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