The Running Thread Vol 2
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I find it really interesting how different everyone is! I hate running with anything in my stomach, long run I will just make sure there is a shop 7-8 miles in buy a lucazade and I am set for another 7-8 miles.
I will wake up take 2 or 3 sips of water lace up and go, I always make sure to drink approx 2 litres of water from 5-10 every evening so I am adequately hydrated.
I will wake up take 2 or 3 sips of water lace up and go, I always make sure to drink approx 2 litres of water from 5-10 every evening so I am adequately hydrated.
I prefer running in the mornings, but sometimes work/life does get in the way and i end up either running at lunchtime or later in the day.
For morning runs, i'll be up and out on (at most) 1/2 cup of tea/coffee and nothing else. I'll take in water/food when i get back home.
For later-in-the-day running, it'll be on whatever i have grabbed for breakfast (toast, yogurt, cereal etc).
A lunchtime run will always be done before eating lunch, and same goes for evening runs too. Hate having to try running if there is food in my belly.
Horses for courses i guess.
For morning runs, i'll be up and out on (at most) 1/2 cup of tea/coffee and nothing else. I'll take in water/food when i get back home.
For later-in-the-day running, it'll be on whatever i have grabbed for breakfast (toast, yogurt, cereal etc).
A lunchtime run will always be done before eating lunch, and same goes for evening runs too. Hate having to try running if there is food in my belly.
Horses for courses i guess.
RobM77 said:
Does anyone run with bone conductor headphones? I'm thinking about buying some for my wife for her birthday in a couple of weeks. She always listens to music when she runs, but around here we don't have pavements or trails, so need to run on the road, which is obviously rather dangerous if you can't hear cars coming. We don't get many cars, but in 10km I will have a few pass me. I was hoping with the bone headphones she'd be able to hear cars and tractors as well as the music.
I've had my Trek Air's for 18 months - fabulous things. I live on a busy main road, and (certainly over the last 3 months) have had to do most of my running in and around the town, so its good to have music to run with, but they do still allow you to be aware of things going on around you.I've used them in all weathers (including running in torrential downpours) and they are faultless.
Depending on my mood, i'll either run with them paired to my iPod Nano, or i'll have them paired to my phone. Either way, the battery life is good for 2-3 runs (5-6 hours easily) - and probably more besides - i just tend to whack them on charge after every 2/3 uses.
If mine broke today i would buy another pair without hesitation.
Crasher242 said:
RobM77 said:
Does anyone run with bone conductor headphones? I'm thinking about buying some for my wife for her birthday in a couple of weeks. She always listens to music when she runs, but around here we don't have pavements or trails, so need to run on the road, which is obviously rather dangerous if you can't hear cars coming. We don't get many cars, but in 10km I will have a few pass me. I was hoping with the bone headphones she'd be able to hear cars and tractors as well as the music.
I've had my Trek Air's for 18 months - fabulous things. I live on a busy main road, and (certainly over the last 3 months) have had to do most of my running in and around the town, so its good to have music to run with, but they do still allow you to be aware of things going on around you.I've used them in all weathers (including running in torrential downpours) and they are faultless.
Depending on my mood, i'll either run with them paired to my iPod Nano, or i'll have them paired to my phone. Either way, the battery life is good for 2-3 runs (5-6 hours easily) - and probably more besides - i just tend to whack them on charge after every 2/3 uses.
If mine broke today i would buy another pair without hesitation.
On the old fuelling for a half, there's definitely a difference between a run and a race, but I don't think it's massive, unless you're clocking around 2 1/2 hours plus, or it's a hard course in terms of hills/offroad etc.
Obviously finding a breakfast routine that works for you - in my case 50g of porridge with fruit and full fat milk a couple of hours before, two or three coffees early enough to bet the bowels moving and also for you to pee them out before the start, then I'll sip water from about 60 mins to 15 mins pre start, have a gel/banana with my last swig of water and have another gel in my pocket for the 10-14k point. If I had to, I could go without the gels/banana for sure, but there might be an energy issue from km 18 if I was really motoring.
Personally, and this is true of training and racing, I find the food and hydration in the days preceeding a race to be as important. No point trying to hydrate in the two hours before a race if you can get there the day before and then just top up as needed.
Obviously finding a breakfast routine that works for you - in my case 50g of porridge with fruit and full fat milk a couple of hours before, two or three coffees early enough to bet the bowels moving and also for you to pee them out before the start, then I'll sip water from about 60 mins to 15 mins pre start, have a gel/banana with my last swig of water and have another gel in my pocket for the 10-14k point. If I had to, I could go without the gels/banana for sure, but there might be an energy issue from km 18 if I was really motoring.
Personally, and this is true of training and racing, I find the food and hydration in the days preceeding a race to be as important. No point trying to hydrate in the two hours before a race if you can get there the day before and then just top up as needed.
Well that’s couch to 5K completed in 17 days. Really slow at 33mins (5.12km) but it’s a start. Brooks ghost 12 are doing great. No way I would have been able to run 5km in my old trainers, my legs would have been totally shot.
Surprisingly I felt ok cardio wise but my legs did fatigue at 4KM for a bit.
Surprisingly I felt ok cardio wise but my legs did fatigue at 4KM for a bit.
thebraketester said:
Well that’s couch to 5K completed in 17 days. Really slow at 33mins (5.12km) but it’s a start. Brooks ghost 12 are doing great. No way I would have been able to run 5km in my old trainers, my legs would have been totally shot.
Surprisingly I felt ok cardio wise but my legs did fatigue at 4KM for a bit.
Great! I guess you'll continue running now C25k is complete?Surprisingly I felt ok cardio wise but my legs did fatigue at 4KM for a bit.
thebraketester said:
Totally
More than anything its a total head clearer.
Yep. For this reason I'm trying to keep a mentality of training for races going, even when they might not happen in the near future, purely because without that I might have days where I don't leave the house and don't speak to anybody. Running gets me out of the door into nature. More than anything its a total head clearer.
However, I must say that whilst I'll always love running for fitness, I am finding it tough to motivate myself to do harder speed sessions when nobody has any idea when the next race is! All I would like is to know 100% that a race is happening on a given day, but nobody even knows that.
RobM77 said:
thebraketester said:
Well that’s couch to 5K completed in 17 days. Really slow at 33mins (5.12km) but it’s a start. Brooks ghost 12 are doing great. No way I would have been able to run 5km in my old trainers, my legs would have been totally shot.
Surprisingly I felt ok cardio wise but my legs did fatigue at 4KM for a bit.
Great! I guess you'll continue running now C25k is complete?Surprisingly I felt ok cardio wise but my legs did fatigue at 4KM for a bit.
I do miss the Parkruns.
I did the last one before the lockdown. Jokingly commented to a running mate that i’d see him at the next one, in the autumn. We kind of knew it was heading that way. Autumn will be a good outcome ...
Can’t wait for a race, feeling pretty good but probably not match fit! Will take a couple of 5ks to blow the cobwebs out.
I did the last one before the lockdown. Jokingly commented to a running mate that i’d see him at the next one, in the autumn. We kind of knew it was heading that way. Autumn will be a good outcome ...
Can’t wait for a race, feeling pretty good but probably not match fit! Will take a couple of 5ks to blow the cobwebs out.
RobM77 said:
However, I must say that whilst I'll always love running for fitness, I am finding it tough to motivate myself to do harder speed sessions when nobody has any idea when the next race is! All I would like is to know 100% that a race is happening on a given day, but nobody even knows that.
Any local clubs running virtual races? Or indeed just organise one with your friends, or maybe the PH club on Strava. Whilst obviously nothing like the real thing, they might provide the motivation to carry out the harder training sessions.
I did a virtual 5K leg as part of a team at the weekend (a 40K five ways: three 10K legs and two 5K legs in each of eight teams). Good banter and support within the team and fun to get out and put some effort in. Oh, and we came third, which always helps.
Update: My new Nike Pegasus 37's arrived
First impressions are good - as a daily / middle distance shoe. The heel, mid and forefoot cushioning is very good (about 75% of the ZF3's). Fit is very good although they come up slightly smaller than the ZF3's. Overall they feel very "fitted" compared to the ASICS i've recently been dabbling with.
I did tie them up with the runners knot but had to undo this as they did cut into the front of my ankle with the runners knot. Heel lockdown is good even without the runners knot so not a concern. It'll be interesting to see how long they last. My guess is about 600km as they are quite soft but at £100 pair compared to the £140 for the ZF3's it's worth pursuing.
RobM77 said:
Yep. For this reason I'm trying to keep a mentality of training for races going, even when they might not happen in the near future, purely because without that I might have days where I don't leave the house and don't speak to anybody. Running gets me out of the door into nature.
However, I must say that whilst I'll always love running for fitness, I am finding it tough to motivate myself to do harder speed sessions when nobody has any idea when the next race is! All I would like is to know 100% that a race is happening on a given day, but nobody even knows that.
I'm having a lack of motivation day off today! Chicago 2020 was cancelled yesterday. However, I must say that whilst I'll always love running for fitness, I am finding it tough to motivate myself to do harder speed sessions when nobody has any idea when the next race is! All I would like is to know 100% that a race is happening on a given day, but nobody even knows that.
It was sort of inevitable, but it's still smacked the motivation out of me. I was slowly increasing my mileage, I was just starting to put speed into my plan. But as my next scheduled race is now Brighton in April next year. I'm not sure I'll be able to continue to run 5 times a week for the next 9 months without getting utterly burnt out on every variation of route I have near my home. (or within a sensible car journey!)
Will have to obviously cancel/ rearrange flights (vouchers possibly???) Then talk to the relevant people about a potential defer to a later year. They've offered 21,22 or 23. Are we likely to be back racing by October 2021?
Second, Third waves?
Currently the USA isn't even open to non essential travel.
At the same time, I don't want to lose what I've gained recently. And 9 months of concerted running over maybe 3-4 days a week offers potential benefits. Though I'm loathed to sign up for any other races for the foreseeable, as they may still be cancelled as well.
Candellara said:
Update: My new Nike Pegasus 37's arrived
First impressions are good - as a daily / middle distance shoe. The heel, mid and forefoot cushioning is very good (about 75% of the ZF3's). Fit is very good although they come up slightly smaller than the ZF3's. Overall they feel very "fitted" compared to the ASICS i've recently been dabbling with.
I did tie them up with the runners knot but had to undo this as they did cut into the front of my ankle with the runners knot. Heel lockdown is good even without the runners knot so not a concern. It'll be interesting to see how long they last. My guess is about 600km as they are quite soft but at £100 pair compared to the £140 for the ZF3's it's worth pursuing.
Thanks for the info. I was always going to try them. Interesting you say the heel is good. Most reviewers suggest it gets better with use, but experience slipping at first. I wonder if there's been a slight improvement in manufacturing, since the initial run that went to the reviewers.First impressions are good - as a daily / middle distance shoe. The heel, mid and forefoot cushioning is very good (about 75% of the ZF3's). Fit is very good although they come up slightly smaller than the ZF3's. Overall they feel very "fitted" compared to the ASICS i've recently been dabbling with.
I did tie them up with the runners knot but had to undo this as they did cut into the front of my ankle with the runners knot. Heel lockdown is good even without the runners knot so not a concern. It'll be interesting to see how long they last. My guess is about 600km as they are quite soft but at £100 pair compared to the £140 for the ZF3's it's worth pursuing.
Candellara said:
Update: My new Nike Pegasus 37's arrived
First impressions are good - as a daily / middle distance shoe. The heel, mid and forefoot cushioning is very good (about 75% of the ZF3's). Fit is very good although they come up slightly smaller than the ZF3's. Overall they feel very "fitted" compared to the ASICS i've recently been dabbling with.
I did tie them up with the runners knot but had to undo this as they did cut into the front of my ankle with the runners knot. Heel lockdown is good even without the runners knot so not a concern. It'll be interesting to see how long they last. My guess is about 600km as they are quite soft but at £100 pair compared to the £140 for the ZF3's it's worth pursuing.
I love the Pegasus 37sFirst impressions are good - as a daily / middle distance shoe. The heel, mid and forefoot cushioning is very good (about 75% of the ZF3's). Fit is very good although they come up slightly smaller than the ZF3's. Overall they feel very "fitted" compared to the ASICS i've recently been dabbling with.
I did tie them up with the runners knot but had to undo this as they did cut into the front of my ankle with the runners knot. Heel lockdown is good even without the runners knot so not a concern. It'll be interesting to see how long they last. My guess is about 600km as they are quite soft but at £100 pair compared to the £140 for the ZF3's it's worth pursuing.
2 pairs on the go (plus Pegasus Turbo2)
I did mistakenly buy the flyease version last time (with a zip..) but returned those & changed to the normal ones, the zipper didn’t seem a good idea !
I got some Pegasus 37’s last month. I am very happy with them. I do prefer them with the runners knot although the laces are quite short.
I did tie the laces a bit to tight the other week on my HM run. It bruised my foot and swelled up and I needed to have a week off running.
I want to get a second pair of trainers but no idea what to get.
I did tie the laces a bit to tight the other week on my HM run. It bruised my foot and swelled up and I needed to have a week off running.
I want to get a second pair of trainers but no idea what to get.
Candellara said:
Jimboka said:
I love the Pegasus 37s
2 pairs on the go (plus Pegasus Turbo2)
I did mistakenly buy the flyease version last time (with a zip..) but returned those & changed to the normal ones, the zipper didn’t seem a good idea !
How do the 37's compare to the Turbo 2's?2 pairs on the go (plus Pegasus Turbo2)
I did mistakenly buy the flyease version last time (with a zip..) but returned those & changed to the normal ones, the zipper didn’t seem a good idea !
The turbo 2’s are lighter & I guess faster.
But I doubt that makes a lot of difference to me!
I’ll save the turbo 2’s for a race one day..
Both types fit me the same & feel great from the first outing. The 37s seem a bit more robust for everyday use,
Not worn enough to notice any wear as yet
jeremyc said:
RobM77 said:
However, I must say that whilst I'll always love running for fitness, I am finding it tough to motivate myself to do harder speed sessions when nobody has any idea when the next race is! All I would like is to know 100% that a race is happening on a given day, but nobody even knows that.
Any local clubs running virtual races? Or indeed just organise one with your friends, or maybe the PH club on Strava. My running club has started doing a 5k handicap league, that along with submitting a not-parkrun time every week at least gives me some motivation to get out, so worth looking in to if you're a member of a club. Loads of mates doing various challenges on Strava so that's also worth a look. Since the rules on gatherings relaxed we've been meeting up with a few parkrun mates fro a run and breakfast on Saturday mornings, its not as good as the real thing but it's nice to do stuff that feels normal.
My wife suggested we run to Germany last weekend, gave us a bit of reason for a run, although I'm glad we were staying quite close to the border
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