The Running Thread Vol 2
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Felt a bit silly running home wearing two armbands tho...Presumably social distancing, group sizes etc. Average size of the groups of walkers i see when out on my trail runs is 6. Yes some might be a single household, not all I’m fairly sure.
Last week I ran a couple of miles with never going more than 10s between pieces of litter. Prior to Covid used to see hardly any litter on the same routes.
Last week I ran a couple of miles with never going more than 10s between pieces of litter. Prior to Covid used to see hardly any litter on the same routes.
Good to hear a number of you have had some good runs today. My legs are feeling significantly less sore now which is great. I'm doing an 11+ hour clinic tomorrow so think I'll just cycle to/from work and then go for circa 7.5-8 miles Tuesday.
I'm hoping that removing those 200s from my sessions will help with injury prevention.
It's been ingrained in me because we finished almost all sessions with some 200s when I used to race. They absolutely helped but clearly my legs aren't yet up to it. Frustrating because my cardio fitness can take it easy. About 6-7 weeks ago I did 9.5 miles at 7:20/mile and didn't think much of it at all. Just need to not get carried away. Plan to build back to 10M over next 3 weeks and then hang the long runs at 10M for 4 weeks as I up the other miles on other days.
I have missed running so much over the last 6+ years, it is so exciting getting back to it, but it hasn't been easy going, but undoubtedly getting easier than it was middle of last year!
I'm hoping that removing those 200s from my sessions will help with injury prevention.
It's been ingrained in me because we finished almost all sessions with some 200s when I used to race. They absolutely helped but clearly my legs aren't yet up to it. Frustrating because my cardio fitness can take it easy. About 6-7 weeks ago I did 9.5 miles at 7:20/mile and didn't think much of it at all. Just need to not get carried away. Plan to build back to 10M over next 3 weeks and then hang the long runs at 10M for 4 weeks as I up the other miles on other days.
I have missed running so much over the last 6+ years, it is so exciting getting back to it, but it hasn't been easy going, but undoubtedly getting easier than it was middle of last year!
It almost feels wasteful to me not to give it full beans at the end of a run, mine tend to be about 5k though so probably less risk of injury...
Managed my best pace today of 3:43/km over 4.4km, I didn't realise or I would've tried to go for the full 5k as my best was 3:44 previously. Average heart rate was only 154bpm according to Stava so probably could've given it a bit more too.
Managed my best pace today of 3:43/km over 4.4km, I didn't realise or I would've tried to go for the full 5k as my best was 3:44 previously. Average heart rate was only 154bpm according to Stava so probably could've given it a bit more too.
Drezza said:
It almost feels wasteful to me not to give it full beans at the end of a run, mine tend to be about 5k though so probably less risk of injury...
Managed my best pace today of 3:43/km over 4.4km, I didn't realise or I would've tried to go for the full 5k as my best was 3:44 previously. Average heart rate was only 154bpm according to Stava so probably could've given it a bit more too.
Biomechanically the risk of injury from doing a few 200s at sub 3min/km at the end of a session is going to be higher than going max effort on longer intervals or runs where you might only be doing 3:30-3:40/km though Managed my best pace today of 3:43/km over 4.4km, I didn't realise or I would've tried to go for the full 5k as my best was 3:44 previously. Average heart rate was only 154bpm according to Stava so probably could've given it a bit more too.
I think I'll stick to my current plan but switch the 200s st the end for maybe a harder 800m or 1km so I'm still getting decent speed without going much faster. Just aiming to build speed endurance so I'm doing just 6min/mile stuff at the moment, once I'm doing 5miles continuous 6-6:10/mile I'll then start doing much more structured stuff and a few TTs
Afternoon all.
A couple of questions:
1. my wife started back running in November last after having our second child. she is now running around 30km per week and wants to do a half marathon in september. Now this event has also a full marathon and i am signed up for the full. is it worth trying to persuade her to do the full? Its two hours more and we will have the same amount of training done by then hopefully and she's done the distance twice before
2. is garmin connect as good as strava?? ie is it worth letting the strava sub lapse in lieu of using connect instead as the primary run tracker etc,
A couple of questions:
1. my wife started back running in November last after having our second child. she is now running around 30km per week and wants to do a half marathon in september. Now this event has also a full marathon and i am signed up for the full. is it worth trying to persuade her to do the full? Its two hours more and we will have the same amount of training done by then hopefully and she's done the distance twice before
2. is garmin connect as good as strava?? ie is it worth letting the strava sub lapse in lieu of using connect instead as the primary run tracker etc,
rastapasta said:
2. is garmin connect as good as strava?? ie is it worth letting the strava sub lapse in lieu of using connect instead as the primary run tracker etc,
There is a free to use Strava service that might be perfectly adequate for you (depends what you want from it).I use a Garmin device that uploads to Garmin Connect and is automatically sync'ed to the free Strava service.
So, you could try using either the free Strava or Garmin Connect as the primary tracking app; if you use Garmin Connect the results can automatically be sent to Strava anyway.
You could also look at MapMyRun as an alternative (I sync from Garmin Connect to that as well).
rastapasta said:
Afternoon all.
A couple of questions:
1. my wife started back running in November last after having our second child. she is now running around 30km per week and wants to do a half marathon in september. Now this event has also a full marathon and i am signed up for the full. is it worth trying to persuade her to do the full? Its two hours more and we will have the same amount of training done by then hopefully and she's done the distance twice before
2. is garmin connect as good as strava?? ie is it worth letting the strava sub lapse in lieu of using connect instead as the primary run tracker etc,
In terms of 2. I find Garmin Connect every bit as good as Strava, except for the 'social' aspect and the segments (in terms of comparing your performance to others) - so if neither of those are important to you then I'd bin it.A couple of questions:
1. my wife started back running in November last after having our second child. she is now running around 30km per week and wants to do a half marathon in september. Now this event has also a full marathon and i am signed up for the full. is it worth trying to persuade her to do the full? Its two hours more and we will have the same amount of training done by then hopefully and she's done the distance twice before
2. is garmin connect as good as strava?? ie is it worth letting the strava sub lapse in lieu of using connect instead as the primary run tracker etc,
For stats, I find Runalyze to be far superior to both.
I plan to go for about 7.5-8 miles this morning to see how the legs feel on return from injury. The weather is lovely, but very cold. I'm not sure whether to drive out to a lovely woodland trail (about 6-7 miles away) or just go from home. I think I'll probably just go from home for today and save the trips out for when I'm doing runs a little longer.
For stats, I find Runalyze to be far superior to both.I use Training Peaks (premium) for analysis. Mainly used for cycling but it's also very good for running too, certainly better than anything Garmin Connect or Strava offer. I'm tempted to ditch Strava. I don't actually use it, my rides/runs get uploaded, a few people give me Kudos and that's it. I don't think it actually offers me anything.
smn159 said:
rastapasta said:
Afternoon all.
A couple of questions:
1. my wife started back running in November last after having our second child. she is now running around 30km per week and wants to do a half marathon in september. Now this event has also a full marathon and i am signed up for the full. is it worth trying to persuade her to do the full? Its two hours more and we will have the same amount of training done by then hopefully and she's done the distance twice before
2. is garmin connect as good as strava?? ie is it worth letting the strava sub lapse in lieu of using connect instead as the primary run tracker etc,
In terms of 2. I find Garmin Connect every bit as good as Strava, except for the 'social' aspect and the segments (in terms of comparing your performance to others) - so if neither of those are important to you then I'd bin it.A couple of questions:
1. my wife started back running in November last after having our second child. she is now running around 30km per week and wants to do a half marathon in september. Now this event has also a full marathon and i am signed up for the full. is it worth trying to persuade her to do the full? Its two hours more and we will have the same amount of training done by then hopefully and she's done the distance twice before
2. is garmin connect as good as strava?? ie is it worth letting the strava sub lapse in lieu of using connect instead as the primary run tracker etc,
For stats, I find Runalyze to be far superior to both.
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I use Training Peaks (premium) for analysis. Mainly used for cycling but it's also very good for running too, certainly better than anything Garmin Connect or Strava offer. I'm tempted to ditch Strava. I don't actually use it, my rides/runs get uploaded, a few people give me Kudos and that's it. I don't think it actually offers me anything.
It does offer you an automatic, independent backup of all your data. I figure I've worked sufficiently hard in my running/cycling/whatever that I don't want it all being lost if Garmin (or others) are hacked or go out of business. My data now gets automatically saved in the infrastructure of three different organisations.
Genuine question, and I run myself so it is not being a running racist or runnerphobe, has there been something I have missed which shows a significant benefit to running in the road?
This is not the Covid swerve or avoiding camber/roots on the pavement but doing what appears to be the whole run positioned as if you were cycling, E.g. in the road when the pavement is free including to the outside if parked cars (and expecting oncoming cars to give way).
This is not the Covid swerve or avoiding camber/roots on the pavement but doing what appears to be the whole run positioned as if you were cycling, E.g. in the road when the pavement is free including to the outside if parked cars (and expecting oncoming cars to give way).
jeremyc said:
TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
I use Training Peaks (premium) for analysis. Mainly used for cycling but it's also very good for running too, certainly better than anything Garmin Connect or Strava offer. I'm tempted to ditch Strava. I don't actually use it, my rides/runs get uploaded, a few people give me Kudos and that's it. I don't think it actually offers me anything.
It does offer you an automatic, independent backup of all your data. I figure I've worked sufficiently hard in my running/cycling/whatever that I don't want it all being lost if Garmin (or others) are hacked or go out of business. My data now gets automatically saved in the infrastructure of three different organisations.
Moulder said:
Genuine question, and I run myself so it is not being a running racist or runnerphobe, has there been something I have missed which shows a significant benefit to running in the road?
This is not the Covid swerve or avoiding camber/roots on the pavement but doing what appears to be the whole run positioned as if you were cycling, E.g. in the road when the pavement is free including to the outside if parked cars (and expecting oncoming cars to give way).
Only thing I can think of is if doing a tempo run and running somewhere where there are lots of junctions you can just keep running instead of potentially having to stop if there are cars coming from side roads. It's not something I do in busy areas but where I do my speed sessions there are a couple of very minor side roads and I tend to run in the bike lane around those instead of the pavements for the above reason.This is not the Covid swerve or avoiding camber/roots on the pavement but doing what appears to be the whole run positioned as if you were cycling, E.g. in the road when the pavement is free including to the outside if parked cars (and expecting oncoming cars to give way).
8.1 miles done, average pace only 7:34/mile but the legs felt good. Finished up with 55mins on the bike afterwards as well.
Absolutely glorious weather, aside from a reasonably strong wind in places it wad basically perfect running conditions. I need to work on slowing down my long runs soon. At the moment I'm only running 4x/week but in 4-6 weeks I plan to introduce a 5th and to keep injury free I need to hold back as I increase the miles. I need to get some accurate power numbers from my Stryd unit (to do that I need to do some TTs but I don't feel ready to do myself justice just yet after only being back from injury 1.5 weeks ago.....I plan on a 5km TT in 3-4 weeks time) but judging by the power numbers from my session the other day I know my rough "FTP" and therefore what I ought to run my long runs at and today was about 5-10% more power than I ought to have.....but the legs felt fine and the weather was glorious
I am really, really enjoying running again (can you tell?
) and I can see my cycling REALLY reducing soon. Hopefully I can get that 5km TT done in a few weeks, get another 4-6 weeks of solid training after that and then try a 10km TT once I'm doing 35+ miles/week. I would like to get to doing 40+/week within 2-3 months but we shall see. The fitness is there, just weary about injuries!
Absolutely glorious weather, aside from a reasonably strong wind in places it wad basically perfect running conditions. I need to work on slowing down my long runs soon. At the moment I'm only running 4x/week but in 4-6 weeks I plan to introduce a 5th and to keep injury free I need to hold back as I increase the miles. I need to get some accurate power numbers from my Stryd unit (to do that I need to do some TTs but I don't feel ready to do myself justice just yet after only being back from injury 1.5 weeks ago.....I plan on a 5km TT in 3-4 weeks time) but judging by the power numbers from my session the other day I know my rough "FTP" and therefore what I ought to run my long runs at and today was about 5-10% more power than I ought to have.....but the legs felt fine and the weather was glorious
I am really, really enjoying running again (can you tell?
) and I can see my cycling REALLY reducing soon. Hopefully I can get that 5km TT done in a few weeks, get another 4-6 weeks of solid training after that and then try a 10km TT once I'm doing 35+ miles/week. I would like to get to doing 40+/week within 2-3 months but we shall see. The fitness is there, just weary about injuries!Edited by TyrannosauRoss Lex on Tuesday 9th March 13:38
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