The Running Thread Vol 2
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I did the Reading Half this weekend, the first HM in a 18 months and tbh not much running in the meantime (5-10k runs once a week for last few months). Properly messed it up and both legs locked up / cramped and ended up finishing with a rather large blister and now hobbling like a pensioner.
CV fitness from cycling is high, but am guessing the lack of conditioning caused legs the issues!
CV fitness from cycling is high, but am guessing the lack of conditioning caused legs the issues!
ukbabz said:
I did the Reading Half this weekend, the first HM in a 18 months and tbh not much running in the meantime (5-10k runs once a week for last few months). Properly messed it up and both legs locked up / cramped and ended up finishing with a rather large blister and now hobbling like a pensioner.
CV fitness from cycling is high, but am guessing the lack of conditioning caused legs the issues!
Well done, It's a good race and very popular. SOunds like your lack of running fitness was the issueCV fitness from cycling is high, but am guessing the lack of conditioning caused legs the issues!
ukbabz said:
CV fitness from cycling is high, but am guessing the lack of conditioning caused legs the issues!
Yes, really common issue for those with high CV fitness from cycling coming into running - loadings are different with muscles and tendons being used in different ways and you need to build up slowly. The jiffle king said:
Well done, It's a good race and very popular. SOunds like your lack of running fitness was the issue
I managed a free ticket from work and I have previously done it a few years ago when I ran more. It was weird feeling fresh ish but hardly able to hold a 5min/km pace due to legs not playing ball!Running is great for fitness but it's one I struggle to get into a meaningful training pattern with, as if the weathers nice I'll be on the bike. Hopefully now my little one is on her pedal bike I can do some parenting + easy runs to build up!
I ran my first “race” on Saturday. It was the Dougie Mac 10k. Dougie Mac is a cancer hospice and they looked after my mum in her last days.
Now I know it wasn’t about the time but I was training hard using my daily suggestion on my watch. I was gutted when a few weeks before and I couldn’t run for a week. I then started back very steady and got shin pain the week before the race.
It was like shin splints. But considering I had total rest before and I’d built my miles up steadily it’s strange.
Anyway the “10k” turned out to be 5.98 miles by my watch and I did it in 46:40. Quite pleased but it would have been nice to get a new 10k pb!
The only thing that really matters is the amazing support I had. 4 mates ran it with me and loads came to cheer us on. As of now we have raised over £1300!
So it’s a win win, just resting now and trying to get my shin right!
Thanks everyone
Now I know it wasn’t about the time but I was training hard using my daily suggestion on my watch. I was gutted when a few weeks before and I couldn’t run for a week. I then started back very steady and got shin pain the week before the race.
It was like shin splints. But considering I had total rest before and I’d built my miles up steadily it’s strange.
Anyway the “10k” turned out to be 5.98 miles by my watch and I did it in 46:40. Quite pleased but it would have been nice to get a new 10k pb!
The only thing that really matters is the amazing support I had. 4 mates ran it with me and loads came to cheer us on. As of now we have raised over £1300!
So it’s a win win, just resting now and trying to get my shin right!
Thanks everyone
ben5575 said:
That’s great, well done. Good time as well! Hope the shins get better soon.
Now you’ve done your first, are you looking to do more?
Thanks! Now you’ve done your first, are you looking to do more?
Definitely!!!
Haha it’s strange as i have never been interested in racing I have ran for years as it just makes me feel better. But I did enjoy the “race”
I used pace plus on my watch, so with that being 10k if I know the course was a little short I could have maybe gone harder. But oh well. The day was about more than that.
Winter training, marathon block and race day seems to have taken it's toll on my left hip.
Have seen physio last week, and had a hip mobility/strength session with my running coach last night before track.
Doesn't seem to be anything majorly wrong, just feels weak and the morning after running (like now) I feel very stiff indeed.
Bugger!
Just got to keep working on the strength and conditioning exercises I think, might have a week or two off of running to see if it eases.
Have seen physio last week, and had a hip mobility/strength session with my running coach last night before track.
Doesn't seem to be anything majorly wrong, just feels weak and the morning after running (like now) I feel very stiff indeed.
Bugger!
Just got to keep working on the strength and conditioning exercises I think, might have a week or two off of running to see if it eases.
I'm after some advice/recommendations please 
I'm new to running (9months). Strava tells me I average 30km+ a week and this includes training with my local fell running club.
I enjoy running, but it's not my main sport and I'm not/never will be quick (25min/5k), so I'm not interesting in 'competing' or chasing times. It's about the personal challenge and being out in the hills.
Inspired by the likes of JP/spine race etc, I'm keen to 'participate' in some trail races. As a newbie I lack the confidence (and strength!) to do the big 11/20mile fell races although I train with those that do and I know I could get round them. Just not before the cut off!
I'm 'comfortable' with 15k/500m at 10min/mile and have run c.23k/1500m a few times but slowly over very technical ground.
I think a longer (up to half marathon), but slower with less elevation run may be the right mix of challenge and taking part/having fun to start with.
Does anybody have any advice about starting (or is it just do it?)/recommendations for trail races (preferably north of england) please?
I'm new to running (9months). Strava tells me I average 30km+ a week and this includes training with my local fell running club.
I enjoy running, but it's not my main sport and I'm not/never will be quick (25min/5k), so I'm not interesting in 'competing' or chasing times. It's about the personal challenge and being out in the hills.
Inspired by the likes of JP/spine race etc, I'm keen to 'participate' in some trail races. As a newbie I lack the confidence (and strength!) to do the big 11/20mile fell races although I train with those that do and I know I could get round them. Just not before the cut off!
I'm 'comfortable' with 15k/500m at 10min/mile and have run c.23k/1500m a few times but slowly over very technical ground.
I think a longer (up to half marathon), but slower with less elevation run may be the right mix of challenge and taking part/having fun to start with.
Does anybody have any advice about starting (or is it just do it?)/recommendations for trail races (preferably north of england) please?
ben5575 said:
I'm after some advice/recommendations please
I'm new to running (9months). Strava tells me I average 30km+ a week and this includes training with my local fell running club.
I enjoy running, but it's not my main sport and I'm not/never will be quick (25min/5k), so I'm not interesting in 'competing' or chasing times. It's about the personal challenge and being out in the hills.
Inspired by the likes of JP/spine race etc, I'm keen to 'participate' in some trail races. As a newbie I lack the confidence (and strength!) to do the big 11/20mile fell races although I train with those that do and I know I could get round them. Just not before the cut off!
I'm 'comfortable' with 15k/500m at 10min/mile and have run c.23k/1500m a few times but slowly over very technical ground.
I think a longer (up to half marathon), but slower with less elevation run may be the right mix of challenge and taking part/having fun to start with.
Does anybody have any advice about starting (or is it just do it?)/recommendations for trail races (preferably north of england) please?
I prefer local events with minimal organisation. There should be one that suits you here: https://www.fellrunner.org.uk/racesI'm new to running (9months). Strava tells me I average 30km+ a week and this includes training with my local fell running club.
I enjoy running, but it's not my main sport and I'm not/never will be quick (25min/5k), so I'm not interesting in 'competing' or chasing times. It's about the personal challenge and being out in the hills.
Inspired by the likes of JP/spine race etc, I'm keen to 'participate' in some trail races. As a newbie I lack the confidence (and strength!) to do the big 11/20mile fell races although I train with those that do and I know I could get round them. Just not before the cut off!
I'm 'comfortable' with 15k/500m at 10min/mile and have run c.23k/1500m a few times but slowly over very technical ground.
I think a longer (up to half marathon), but slower with less elevation run may be the right mix of challenge and taking part/having fun to start with.
Does anybody have any advice about starting (or is it just do it?)/recommendations for trail races (preferably north of england) please?
Worried my running days are over at the age of 70.
Back training after an Autumn/Christmas/January lay off and got up to 8mile (slow pace) exactly a month ago. No major probs, an old knee complaint niggling at about 7 mile.
Then I did some digging in the garden plus up and down a ladder along with walking two dogs who pull on their leads and my knee is now constantly giving me trouble.
Decided I'd give a 3 miler a try this lunchtime. Managed about 50 yards and thought this isn't working and pulled up.
Have the GNR booked for September (did it two year ago along with a couple of 10K).
Not a happy bunny. Might try power walking? Cycling I know hurts, my bike hasn't moved in over a year as a result, stairs are a pain at times as is a car with a heavy clutch but I've been OK with all that for about 5 years or more.
Back training after an Autumn/Christmas/January lay off and got up to 8mile (slow pace) exactly a month ago. No major probs, an old knee complaint niggling at about 7 mile.
Then I did some digging in the garden plus up and down a ladder along with walking two dogs who pull on their leads and my knee is now constantly giving me trouble.
Decided I'd give a 3 miler a try this lunchtime. Managed about 50 yards and thought this isn't working and pulled up.
Have the GNR booked for September (did it two year ago along with a couple of 10K).
Not a happy bunny. Might try power walking? Cycling I know hurts, my bike hasn't moved in over a year as a result, stairs are a pain at times as is a car with a heavy clutch but I've been OK with all that for about 5 years or more.
Skyedriver said:
Worried my running days are over at the age of 70.
Back training after an Autumn/Christmas/January lay off and got up to 8mile (slow pace) exactly a month ago. No major probs, an old knee complaint niggling at about 7 mile.
Then I did some digging in the garden plus up and down a ladder along with walking two dogs who pull on their leads and my knee is now constantly giving me trouble.
Decided I'd give a 3 miler a try this lunchtime. Managed about 50 yards and thought this isn't working and pulled up.
Have the GNR booked for September (did it two year ago along with a couple of 10K).
Not a happy bunny. Might try power walking? Cycling I know hurts, my bike hasn't moved in over a year as a result, stairs are a pain at times as is a car with a heavy clutch but I've been OK with all that for about 5 years or more.
Good on you for being in decent shape later in life. I am a lot younger than you and feel in terrible condition. Back training after an Autumn/Christmas/January lay off and got up to 8mile (slow pace) exactly a month ago. No major probs, an old knee complaint niggling at about 7 mile.
Then I did some digging in the garden plus up and down a ladder along with walking two dogs who pull on their leads and my knee is now constantly giving me trouble.
Decided I'd give a 3 miler a try this lunchtime. Managed about 50 yards and thought this isn't working and pulled up.
Have the GNR booked for September (did it two year ago along with a couple of 10K).
Not a happy bunny. Might try power walking? Cycling I know hurts, my bike hasn't moved in over a year as a result, stairs are a pain at times as is a car with a heavy clutch but I've been OK with all that for about 5 years or more.
Walking is an amazing option. In fact some in the fitness industry advise this rather than running as it is lower impact and also can encourage healthier/more natural lifestyle changes.
There's a thing called "rucking" which is now quite popular. Basically people who walk with a weighted backpack or a weighted vest. I would be cautious with your knee issue, but you could include this if you feel comfortable walking for longer distances.
The other option - but mentally more difficult - is incline treadmill walking (or just hilly areas near where you live). As long as your heart rate is getting to where it needs to be (zone 2 mostly) it's really effective.
Someone I follow online who is a very strong runner suffers quite badly when they can't run. They recently said something which really resonated with me, which was: Don't focus on what you can't do, focus on what you can do.
Sounds simple but I have done that so often. Swimming, walking, incline treadmill walking, etc. it doesn't matter as long as you can find something which keeps you ticking over and lets your knee recover a bit.
EDIT: you may know what the issue is but sometimes a physio can really help. They may identify a weakness like Glutes, tight hamstrings, hips, etc, or a reason why it's hurting. Although based on what you say it's probably a simple overuse injury and just needs a bit of rest. Also obvious and general advice to ice it for numerous days at regular periods, wrap it up too in a tight sleeve of some kind and try to just not upset it anymore.
Slowboathome said:
I prefer local events with minimal organisation. There should be one that suits you here: https://www.fellrunner.org.uk/races
Thanks. I’m doing a small ‘beginner’ fell run 7k next week that’s being organised by my club. I’m a member of the FRA. I fear (and I may be wrong) that fell runner is quite niche, so those that do it, do it, so the events are likely to be more competitive.
I’m actually looking for a larger more organised event that will/should have a broader range of ability in it. I think!
Not everyone's cup of tea, but do you have any hashers near? More relaxed than fell runners in my experience
https://www.hashhouseharriers.com/what-is-hashing/
https://www.hashhouseharriers.com/what-is-hashing/
Well, that's the last run of my second Runna 5k improvement programme done. Hopefully, it'll be enough to sneak under 20 minutes on Sunday!
Just ordered some Adidas Takumi Sens to help me on my way - down to £85 at Start Fitness now that the 10s are out.
Just ordered some Adidas Takumi Sens to help me on my way - down to £85 at Start Fitness now that the 10s are out.
Edited by dirtbiker on Thursday 18th April 16:07
8s or 9s? I can only see the 8s online for that price. I’ve got some 8s (believe the 9s are very similar but even lighter upper) - I like them but they in no way feel like a £170 shoe. I reckon I’m still quicker over 5km in a mega miles pair of AF which used to be my sons, than I am in my TS8.
I’m sure you’ll like them. Agreed they and my Boston 11s are not easy to get your foot into! Quite impressed with the Bostons, although I realise the 12 are a big step up. They’re quite a lot sturdier than the TS and don’t feel a lot slower if I’m honest. A real Jack of all trades shoe - LSR, tempo, speed, light trail, treadmill. You can normally get 10% off at Start Fitness - in shop they give it to clubs or even groups such as Running Ninjas (not an affiliated club) or find a code online.
Good luck with the sub 20. Once you’ve managed it, there will be no going back…
Good luck with the sub 20. Once you’ve managed it, there will be no going back…
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