Jiu Jitsu discussion / complete beginner!

Jiu Jitsu discussion / complete beginner!

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BRR

1,846 posts

172 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Pete - I tried Hot Yoga for a while, all i managed to do was injure myself

Tony - I'd definitely be interested in them if you have a link? would be most appreciated, really like Ryan Hall

AJB88

12,421 posts

171 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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my 2nd night back tonight, see how I get on. been watching a few videos.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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I'm really keen to get back to some sort of grappling.

As a fit, active 41 year old man, but with a dodgy elbow from an accident in my teens, I suspect it will be a bad idea....

I'm not interested on competing.

Tony Angelino

1,972 posts

113 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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All about finding the right club pal, I train at 2 and both are brilliant for my needs. One of them has some reasonably high level guys and a lot of hungry young lads but they don't stand for any nonsense - respect for each other filters down from the professor and any nonsense is stamped out immediately. one lad was recently 'politely' advised after acting the knobber with one of the other lads once he would be shown the door and not let back in if there was a repeat.

My other club is more of a social/fitness thing but the coach is great and makes everybody of all levels is made to feel extremely welcome with no pressure put on them at all. Really dropped lucky on them both as they are perfect for my low level participation.

Tony Angelino

1,972 posts

113 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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BRR said:
Pete - I tried Hot Yoga for a while, all i managed to do was injure myself

Tony - I'd definitely be interested in them if you have a link? would be most appreciated, really like Ryan Hall
I've tried sending a couple, let me know if it worked then I can send more.

cheers

BRR

1,846 posts

172 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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AJB88 hope tonight went well

Tony > They've come through, thanks very much, no doubt I'll end up subbing myself trying that stuff but will definitely learn a lot from it

BRR

1,846 posts

172 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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MC Hodge, I would definitely recommend BJJ of you're worried about aggravating injuries as it's quite controlled and you can always just tap if the position hurts, I'm constantly training around injuries and it works out alright, main thing is like Tony says, find a good group of guys to train with that aren't full of ego

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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BRR said:
MC Hodge, I would definitely recommend BJJ of you're worried about aggravating injuries as it's quite controlled and you can always just tap if the position hurts, I'm constantly training around injuries and it works out alright, main thing is like Tony says, find a good group of guys to train with that aren't full of ego
Cheers it is worth a try. It is the elbow locks,
Twisting and forced straightening that are probably going to be the issue.

Judo or wrestling are going to be similarly risky anyway, I suppose.

Tony Angelino

1,972 posts

113 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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BRR said:
AJB88 hope tonight went well

Tony > They've come through, thanks very much, no doubt I'll end up subbing myself trying that stuff but will definitely learn a lot from it
You're welcome buddy, enjoy. Let me know if you work your way through them I've been sent plenty more.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Tony Angelino said:
You're welcome buddy, enjoy. Let me know if you work your way through them I've been sent plenty more.
I would be interested in some of those too if possible.

AJB88

12,421 posts

171 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Drilling went well, training with one of the old black belts (was brown back then) from my old club tonight. Trained some subs from guard and triangle.


Sparring I'm getting really fcked over quickly even by white belts. Need to study some videos etc and probably do some training with my MMA pals.

Edited by AJB88 on Wednesday 17th October 00:01

Pete102

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2,045 posts

186 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Decent advanced session last night. puke.

4 minutes on the bottom in each position, changing partners every 2 minutes. Guard, side control, mount, back mount.

Reset if there is a sub, escape or pass. Properly broken by the end, however, it highlighted some weaknesses in my back mount escapes and choke defense. Side control escapes not too bad, mount escapes not too bad.

Need to speak nicely to Wifey tonight and see if I can swing open mat biggrin

Tony - Any chance of a copy of the vids?

Tony Angelino

1,972 posts

113 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Will send tonight lads.

Tony Angelino

1,972 posts

113 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Emails sent.

Been working my way through the Billy Robinson one, makes me wonder why BJJ is so popular but catch wrestling isn't. Marketing job perhaps?

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Tony Angelino said:
Emails sent.

Been working my way through the Billy Robinson one, makes me wonder why BJJ is so popular but catch wrestling isn't. Marketing job perhaps?
Thanks.

Definitely marketing. UFC. Catch wrestling should be more popular.

BRR

1,846 posts

172 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Tony Angelino said:
Emails sent.

Been working my way through the Billy Robinson one, makes me wonder why BJJ is so popular but catch wrestling isn't. Marketing job perhaps?
yeah a lot of it is down to marketing, people see BJJ as the martial art that won the early UFC's and to be fair it was, though BJJ as it's largely taught today would get you destroyed in an MMA fight if that's the only martial art you trained in

Lutra Livre, catch wrestling, Judo, BJJ, shoot fighting, pancration, sub wrestling, sambo etc all use a lot of the same techniques with variations suited to the ruleset they operate under

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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BRR said:
yeah a lot of it is down to marketing, people see BJJ as the martial art that won the early UFC's and to be fair it was, though BJJ as it's largely taught today would get you destroyed in an MMA fight if that's the only martial art you trained in

Lutra Livre, catch wrestling, Judo, BJJ, shoot fighting, pancration, sub wrestling, sambo etc all use a lot of the same techniques with variations suited to the ruleset they operate under
They are all different flavours of the same thing. The mystical oriental/Bruce Lee effect influenced martial arts in the past, now it is Brazil. Europeans were fighting each other quite successfully before foreign "arts" arrived.

Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 20th October 19:08

ben5575

6,264 posts

221 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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O/T

Thought I'd post this here rather than the Netflix thread as this will resonate differently here.

There's a new series on Netflix called Fightworld where some actor bloke travels around the world 'exploring' various combat sports. Generally it's quite poor and a bit meh. He clearly doesn't have a clue and anybody who can make a gym session with Buakaw all about himself hitting pads says as much as you need to know about the show.

That said, it really is worth finding the time to watch the last Krav/Israel episode. The first half is the usual affair, jumping between seriously (seriously!!!) scary dudes teaching Krav. The second half however is dedicated almost exclusively to a single Gung Fu instructor called Giora Orman who is deeply impressive. I appreciate that this is a Jits thread, but I think anybody who practises MA seriously will relate to just how centred this chap is and how he conveys the importance of respect and tolerance.

A nice antidote to McGregor/UFC etc and a reminder about the positive side of MA (whilst trying to kill people of course!).

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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ben5575 said:
O/T

Thought I'd post this here rather than the Netflix thread as this will resonate differently here.

There's a new series on Netflix called Fightworld where some actor bloke travels around the world 'exploring' various combat sports. Generally it's quite poor and a bit meh. He clearly doesn't have a clue and anybody who can make a gym session with Buakaw all about himself hitting pads says as much as you need to know about the show.

That said, it really is worth finding the time to watch the last Krav/Israel episode. The first half is the usual affair, jumping between seriously (seriously!!!) scary dudes teaching Krav. The second half however is dedicated almost exclusively to a single Gung Fu instructor called Giora Orman who is deeply impressive. I appreciate that this is a Jits thread, but I think anybody who practises MA seriously will relate to just how centred this chap is and how he conveys the importance of respect and tolerance.

A nice antidote to McGregor/UFC etc and a reminder about the positive side of MA (whilst trying to kill people of course!).
I've seen this too. It's OK, although I was hoping for something more. I suspect that it was fairly low budget.

The Krav Maga / Israel episode was interesting, although I found the last half a bit too idealistic.

I'm currently reading "A fighter's Heart" which is a similar in concept, but far superior (as is Sam Sheridan's other book, Disaster diaries)

Pete102

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2,045 posts

186 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Good shout on the documentary, I watched the African wrestling one, quite enjoyed it but hoped it would have covered the final bout a little more. On the same subject I also watched 'my destiny' focussing on the career of Micheal Bisping - the amount of knock backs and nearly theres this guy went through is incredible to consider he finally came good and won a title.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUnlc84g47s

In jits news, I was given a stripe on my blue belt Friday night, one step closer and all that jazz.

Hope everyones well.