The Golf Thread - 2017!

The Golf Thread - 2017!

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thebraketester

14,232 posts

138 months

Tuesday 5th December 2017
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Yeah that’s right Duncan. They have a great setup there.

Rosscow

8,768 posts

163 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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I think you have to be careful - distances off a mat indoors are not the sam as you'll hit off turf outside. It's also very forgiving (if you hit a fat one, for example).

Save your £30, take some balls either to the club practice ground or even a large park, hit some balls with different clubs and measure. Much more accurate!

DuncanM

6,183 posts

279 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Rosscow said:
I think you have to be careful - distances off a mat indoors are not the sam as you'll hit off turf outside. It's also very forgiving (if you hit a fat one, for example).

Save your £30, take some balls either to the club practice ground or even a large park, hit some balls with different clubs and measure. Much more accurate!
So wrong Rosscow!

Golf is all about carry distance, you'll never get that with your park example, and besides, I can't think of a park that allows 200yard shots!

Golf Sims give you real data, if you swing a six iron at 85mph, there is a mathematical distance that you can carry that shot. It's fact based, and so useful.

Anyone not having a gap test and loft lie check at the beginning of a season, is doing themselves a disservice.

Everyone I know hits there 7 iron 150yards until a gap test biggrin

Rosscow

8,768 posts

163 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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DuncanM said:
So wrong Rosscow!

Golf is all about carry distance, you'll never get that with your park example, and besides, I can't think of a park that allows 200yard shots!

Golf Sims give you real data, if you swing a six iron at 85mph, there is a mathematical distance that you can carry that shot. It's fact based, and so useful.

Anyone not having a gap test and loft lie check at the beginning of a season, is doing themselves a disservice.

Everyone I know hits there 7 iron 150yards until a gap test biggrin
This is exactly my point.

I hit my 7 iron about 165-170 yards on the simulators. I know that I don't on the course!

Of course, this might not be an error. You tend to swing harder/faster when on simulators - because it doesn't matter what happens.

DuncanM

6,183 posts

279 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Rosscow said:
This is exactly my point.

I hit my 7 iron about 165-170 yards on the simulators. I know that I don't on the course!

Of course, this might not be an error. You tend to swing harder/faster when on simulators - because it doesn't matter what happens.
Crikey, you're a proper long dog Rosscow!

Is that carry or total? Total figure is utterly pointless imo, apart from 3-wood and dog.

Majority of golfers will see shorter numbers, in particular when looking at the carry numbers.

Rosscow

8,768 posts

163 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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DuncanM said:
Crikey, you're a proper long dog Rosscow!

Is that carry or total? Total figure is utterly pointless imo, apart from 3-wood and dog.

Majority of golfers will see shorter numbers, in particular when looking at the carry numbers.
Well I'm not really, and this is my point! I think I'm pretty average, I carry my 7 iron around 155-160 on a good hit. The simulators always have me carrying longer than I do 'outside'!

thebraketester

14,232 posts

138 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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Still a work in progress here. Pretty much hit 100% draws today at the range. Possibly a bit too much draw, but what I liked was how much more consistent my direction and shot shape shape was. Before I could hit fade draw straight and have no idea where it was going.

Caught it a little fat which turned it a bit more.

https://youtu.be/8r63txdHq0Y

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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thebraketester said:
Still a work in progress here. Pretty much hit 100% draws today at the range. Possibly a bit too much draw, but what I liked was how much more consistent my direction and shot shape shape was. Before I could hit fade draw straight and have no idea where it was going.

Caught it a little fat which turned it a bit more.

https://youtu.be/8r63txdHq0Y
How does the app know where the ball went and the distance? You can see the ball on the video until it hits the apex of the climb then it disappears from the screen. Do you have to go in and tell the app roughly where it landed or does it guesstimate?

thebraketester

14,232 posts

138 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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You have to remember where it landed and I set the distanced based on the range target distances. You could of course just plot the line to go anywhere’s and say it went 350 yards.

Blaster72

10,838 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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Thanks, just curious as I've seen them on the app store and didn't understand how they could work from a phone camera!

LHRFlightman

1,939 posts

170 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Just back from a day at Effingham GC. Firstly, a lovely course in great nick. Lots of re-bunkering going on and come next spring it will be an awesome test.

Format was 4-ball stableford, two best points count on each hole, full handicaps. Our team shot 92 points, for second place. I managed 39 points off 14, with one blob. Won a nice prize of an Under Armour Coolgear sweater.

Learnt today that my 3 wood gets me in better positions on the course than the driver, which is too hit and miss.

Downside of the day? We lost to a team captained By Simon Lazenby of Sky F1. mad


HaplessBoyLard

1,548 posts

188 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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Picked one of these up last week second hand for £100. I’ve been thinking about getting one for a while.

I’d wondered how much nicer they could really feel compared to my ping anser, as I’d only ever picked them up in shops, but I’ve used it now, and the answer is lots.

I seem to be able to either aim it better or keep the face square more as it’s instantly improved my putting within 10 feet or so. I prefer the extra weight and the fact it’s counter balanced.

The problem now is stopping myself starting a collection. I’m a bit of a magpie for golf gear. Always looking for the next shiny treat.

Edited by HaplessBoyLard on Thursday 21st December 09:52

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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HaplessBoyLard said:


Picked one of these up last week second hand for £100. I’ve been thinking about getting one for a while.

I’d wondered how much nicer they could really feel compared to my ping anser, as I’d only ever picked them up in shops, but I’ve used it now, and the answer is lots.

I seem to be able to either aim it better or keep the face square more as it’s instantly improved my putting within 10 feet or so. I prefer the extra weight and the fact it’s counter balanced.

The problem now is stopping myself starting a collection. I’m a bit of a magpie for golf gear. Always looking for the next shiny treat.

Edited by HaplessBoyLard on Thursday 21st December 09:52
I'm not doubting it has had a positive effect, but I can't help suspecting a new putter is akin to the 'new manager bounce' effect in football. As long as your old one fitted you properly.

I guess you were happy with your Ping Anser on the day you bought it?

(4-5 putters here, and not much loyalty. They are all conspiring against me.)


HaplessBoyLard

1,548 posts

188 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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SpeckledJim said:
I'm not doubting it has had a positive effect, but I can't help suspecting a new putter is akin to the 'new manager bounce' effect in football. As long as your old one fitted you properly.

I guess you were happy with your Ping Anser on the day you bought it?

(4-5 putters here, and not much loyalty. They are all conspiring against me.)
Possibly. I played again today and still felt as if I was on line with putts I thought I should be troubling the hole with. I’m not really missing anything 10ft and in by more than 2 or 3 inches. I used to have some big wides with my Anser that confused the hell out of me.

I guess time will tell.

I think the 38” shaft helps. I used to be very hunched over the Anser. I’m 6’5”.

I only have the Anser because a friend of mine didn’t want it and sold it to me for £15. Far less than it was worth, obviously. It was much nicer than what I had at the time, but it never really suited me.

Rosscow

8,768 posts

163 months

Friday 22nd December 2017
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1 putter here (an old SnakeEyes). Had it checked for fitting, got it tweaked and put a different grip on it. Had a 2 hour lesson a few years back with Matt at The London Putting Academy (Royal Blackheath GC) and putting is one of the better parts to my game.

I never have the inclination to change my putter. Spend the money on a session with Matt instead!

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 22nd December 2017
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HaplessBoyLard said:
SpeckledJim said:
I'm not doubting it has had a positive effect, but I can't help suspecting a new putter is akin to the 'new manager bounce' effect in football. As long as your old one fitted you properly.

I guess you were happy with your Ping Anser on the day you bought it?

(4-5 putters here, and not much loyalty. They are all conspiring against me.)
Possibly. I played again today and still felt as if I was on line with putts I thought I should be troubling the hole with. I’m not really missing anything 10ft and in by more than 2 or 3 inches. I used to have some big wides with my Anser that confused the hell out of me.

I guess time will tell.

I think the 38” shaft helps. I used to be very hunched over the Anser. I’m 6’5”.

I only have the Anser because a friend of mine didn’t want it and sold it to me for £15. Far less than it was worth, obviously. It was much nicer than what I had at the time, but it never really suited me.
That's fair enough. If the new putter is literally a better fit for you, then it's well worth the change.

I was generally meaning when a new putter seems like the answer to one's putting woes, but actually improving technique and mindset is the answer to putting woes.

The new putter injects a bit of enthusiasm and optimism, which has a measurable positive effect, but quickly wears off.

This nonsense is how I get to 4-5 putters and still can't putt.


Blackpuddin

16,523 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd December 2017
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I always wonder why 'excellent' putters like Scotty Camerons ever go on sale secondhand. confused;)

thebraketester

14,232 posts

138 months

Friday 22nd December 2017
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Had another lesson the other day. Really good. Still working on trying to avoid bringing the club down too steeply, and setting it at a better angle at the top. Getting there slowly.

48Valves

1,952 posts

209 months

Saturday 23rd December 2017
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Blackpuddin said:
I always wonder why 'excellent' putters like Scotty Camerons ever go on sale secondhand. confused;)
Because we like shiney new things!

HaplessBoyLard

1,548 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd December 2017
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Blackpuddin said:
I always wonder why 'excellent' putters like Scotty Camerons ever go on sale secondhand. confused;)
Usually because the owner has got about 6 of them and they get grief that they’re clogging up the house.