General rugby thread
Discussion
Dermot O'Logical said:
Indeed. We have an embarrassment of riches on the right wing (Watson, Wade, Rokoduguni, Nowell, Yarde) and then we're stuck with Jonny May on the left, although thankfully Elliot Daly seems to have recently become the first choice for the 11 shirt.
If I see the name May on the England team sheet before a match I secretly hope that it might be James or Theresa.
Pardon my ignorance but why can't a winger play on either wing? It's not like football where you need to be able to kick with your left foot if you're on the left wing. If I see the name May on the England team sheet before a match I secretly hope that it might be James or Theresa.
Mr Pointy said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
Indeed. We have an embarrassment of riches on the right wing (Watson, Wade, Rokoduguni, Nowell, Yarde) and then we're stuck with Jonny May on the left, although thankfully Elliot Daly seems to have recently become the first choice for the 11 shirt.
If I see the name May on the England team sheet before a match I secretly hope that it might be James or Theresa.
Pardon my ignorance but why can't a winger play on either wing? It's not like football where you need to be able to kick with your left foot if you're on the left wing. If I see the name May on the England team sheet before a match I secretly hope that it might be James or Theresa.
The above means that in attacking play, the left winger can more often afford to come in off their wing looking for opportunities, whereas in defence, the left winger is likely to see attacking play coming at them more often in their channel, so they tend to need to be that bit stronger in defence.
DocJock said:
Err, no.
Right-handed players tend to pass better off of their stronger hand, ie to the left.
Ah yes, I'm getting my left and right mixed up! Right-handed players tend to pass better off of their stronger hand, ie to the left.
So the left winger will naturally see more of the ball in attacking play, whereas the right winger potentially has more opportunity/need to come in off his wing looking for the ball. Then in defence, it's the right winger who will generally have the busier game.
In theory, though, the further up the game you get, the less this should apply, as intensive training and coaching means that players are much better at passing on the non-dominant side than they would be playing for Old Snottingtons Third XV, although of course it's never going to be 100% eliminated.
Kermit power said:
Ah yes, I'm getting my left and right mixed up!
So the left winger will naturally see more of the ball in attacking play, whereas the right winger potentially has more opportunity/need to come in off his wing looking for the ball. Then in defence, it's the right winger who will generally have the busier game.
In theory, though, the further up the game you get, the less this should apply, as intensive training and coaching means that players are much better at passing on the non-dominant side than they would be playing for Old Snottingtons Third XV, although of course it's never going to be 100% eliminated.
I agree in principle, but when you watch the Lions' matches the passing is sometimes shockingly poor.So the left winger will naturally see more of the ball in attacking play, whereas the right winger potentially has more opportunity/need to come in off his wing looking for the ball. Then in defence, it's the right winger who will generally have the busier game.
In theory, though, the further up the game you get, the less this should apply, as intensive training and coaching means that players are much better at passing on the non-dominant side than they would be playing for Old Snottingtons Third XV, although of course it's never going to be 100% eliminated.
DocJock said:
I agree in principle, but when you watch the Lions' matches the passing is sometimes shockingly poor.
I think that's been a big difference between Northern and Southern hemisphere rugby for a while. Especially compared to the All Blacks who are both accurate and rapid most of the time.
Kermit power said:
DocJock said:
Err, no.
Right-handed players tend to pass better off of their stronger hand, ie to the left.
Ah yes, I'm getting my left and right mixed up! Right-handed players tend to pass better off of their stronger hand, ie to the left.
So the left winger will naturally see more of the ball in attacking play, whereas the right winger potentially has more opportunity/need to come in off his wing looking for the ball. Then in defence, it's the right winger who will generally have the busier game.
In theory, though, the further up the game you get, the less this should apply, as intensive training and coaching means that players are much better at passing on the non-dominant side than they would be playing for Old Snottingtons Third XV, although of course it's never going to be 100% eliminated.
The only time I have seen a distinction is when 11 and 14 are treated as blind and open - so the bigger, more abrasive player plays in the tight and the whippet in the open.
But I think that's not an oft used practice
hornetrider said:
TheGreatSoprendo said:
Tonga 6 Wales 24
"There's no conversion for a penalty try anymore". When did that law change??
When they introduced the other changes. Makes sense to me seeing as it's always in front of the sticks."There's no conversion for a penalty try anymore". When did that law change??
How long will it be before we see a high profile game with the attacking team down by 6 camped on the opposition's line with the clock in the red?
With this law change, surely the defending team can just deliberately infringe at will, safe in the knowledge that they're only conceding 5 points, not giving the opposition a shot at the 7 they need to win?
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