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General rugby thread

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mr pg

1,954 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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No, the best plays for Sarries and has been outstanding for a few years now. Has been club player of the season, voted best in europe, and also good enough to play 10. Excellent kicker too.

iwantagta

1,323 posts

146 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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JonChalk said:
Controversial opinion incoming:

England's dropped and most selfish Full-back still says he's best in the country:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/49666971

Mike Brown insists he's the best full-back and doesn't want to talk about why he might have been (was) dropped.

My personal opinion of his sticky paws aside (he couldn't let the ball leave his hands if his life depended on it!), is he the best full-back eligible to play for England?
I don't think he is. I think Alex Goode is.
One thing i know for certain is that it ain't Daly.
He is very good in attack but in the air he is lacking. I would rather have Watson at full back for the world cup.

768

13,708 posts

97 months

Wednesday 11th September 2019
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I don't think he is.

But he was a natural fit for the position, which I think we're lacking slightly.

Kermit power

28,690 posts

214 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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JonChalk said:
Controversial opinion incoming:

England's dropped and most selfish Full-back still says he's best in the country:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/49666971

Mike Brown insists he's the best full-back and doesn't want to talk about why he might have been (was) dropped.

My personal opinion of his sticky paws aside (he couldn't let the ball leave his hands if his life depended on it!), is he the best full-back eligible to play for England?
I'm an England fan and also a Quins season ticket holder, so I saw pretty much every home game that Mike Brown played last season. The part I've bolded says nothing at all about Brown as a player, and everything about how Eddie Jones asked him to play, as he frequently offloads when playing for Quins.

In case you think I'm biased, take a look at this page to find out which player was by a country mile top of the Premiership offloads count last season. smile

prand

5,916 posts

197 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Kermit power said:
I'm an England fan and also a Quins season ticket holder, so I saw pretty much every home game that Mike Brown played last season. The part I've bolded says nothing at all about Brown as a player, and everything about how Eddie Jones asked him to play, as he frequently offloads when playing for Quins.

In case you think I'm biased, take a look at this page to find out which player was by a country mile top of the Premiership offloads count last season. smile
That makes depressing reading, that a manager can constrain the talent he obviously has with his game plan, and sadly it is common not just in rugby too. I can think of about 2 times when I've seen Brown pass in an England shirt, when he's offloading 3 or four times a game for Quins.

Kermit power

28,690 posts

214 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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prand said:
That makes depressing reading, that a manager can constrain the talent he obviously has with his game plan, and sadly it is common not just in rugby too. I can think of about 2 times when I've seen Brown pass in an England shirt, when he's offloading 3 or four times a game for Quins.
Yep!

He offloaded more in the first half of the first home game After the Six Nations last season than he had in that entire tournament.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Welshbeef said:
phil_cardiff said:
Shouldn't play again for a very long time, if at all imo. You have to wonder about the long term brain health of North and Halfpenny too.
I’ve no idea why scrum caps are not standard kit for the whole team.
They might look silly and get hot - who cares if you all wear them you all look the same.

Not as good as a helmet but it has to be superior to nothing.



1/2p and North and so many others.
I think the diagnosis is CTA which has no current cure.

Our primary school doesn’t allow headering a football as the brain is still developing.
Sadly scrum caps have been demonstrated to do very little (if anything) to prevent concussion brain injury. Even NFL helmets aren't great.

XCP

16,941 posts

229 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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I think they are pretty much solely to prevent ear damage. Mind you that soccer goalkeeper who had a bad head injury wears one. \one wonders why.

Kermit power

28,690 posts

214 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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df76 said:
irocfan said:
just found out that Chester Williams has died frown Forty-bloody-nine years old!

The guy was a star - RiP chap
Both wingers now gone.. hard to believe.
I was reminded earlier that it's actually three out of four of the starting wings in that game who have now died of heart attacks, as Jonah Lomu started for the All Blacks. I reckon I'd be getting a bit paranoid by now if I was Jeff Wilson!! yikes

irocfan

40,550 posts

191 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Kermit power said:
df76 said:
irocfan said:
just found out that Chester Williams has died frown Forty-bloody-nine years old!

The guy was a star - RiP chap
Both wingers now gone.. hard to believe.
I was reminded earlier that it's actually three out of four of the starting wings in that game who have now died of heart attacks, as Jonah Lomu started for the All Blacks. I reckon I'd be getting a bit paranoid by now if I was Jeff Wilson!! yikes
not to mention Rueben Kruger and Joost VdW

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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XCP said:
I think they are pretty much solely to prevent ear damage. Mind you that soccer goalkeeper who had a bad head injury wears one. \one wonders why.
Yep. we did all this on Tuesday (see above).

Kermit power

28,690 posts

214 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-un...

The guy from the Independent (rightfully in my view) not pulling any punches about plastic pitches!

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Kermit power said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-un...

The guy from the Independent (rightfully in my view) not pulling any punches about plastic pitches!
Who has a plastic pitch?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
Who has a plastic pitch?
Saracens

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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desolate said:
The Mad Monk said:
Who has a plastic pitch?
Saracens
Anyone else?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
desolate said:
The Mad Monk said:
Who has a plastic pitch?
Saracens
Anyone else?
The point of the article is that there is a programme to roll them out throughout the RFU

All the pros I know hate them.
(Caveat being they are now all retired or nearly retired so may be on the old fart spectrum)

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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desolate said:
The point of the article is that there is a programme to roll them out throughout the RFU
Are you sure?

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
Are you sure?
Have I misunderstood?

Some background. In 2016 the then cash-rich RFU, in a bid to pin the word ‘legacy’ on something following England’s disastrously premature home World Cup exit the previous year, announced to great fanfare they would invest £47m installing almost 100 untried, untested and largely untrusted AGPs at grassroots clubs across the country

Kermit power

28,690 posts

214 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
desolate said:
The Mad Monk said:
Who has a plastic pitch?
Saracens
Anyone else?
Worcester, Newcastle, 47 other clubs in the lower divisions, numerous schools... They're vile things which quite frequently crop up as a problem. Dylan Hartley has blamed the Sarries one for the severity of his knee injury...

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Thursday 12th September 2019
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Friction burns on that must be horrid.