General rugby thread
Discussion
El stovey said:
phil_cardiff said:
El stovey said:
Never mind betting breaches, it’s the doping that the WRU should be sorting out.
Just the WRU or World Rugby too? Although it’s a rugby wide problem,Welsh rugby has a disproportionately high number of banned athletes at the moment.
article said:
Richard Ings, who was CEO of the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority between 2005 and 2010, said: "Welsh rugby is a red flag in regard to the number of doping offences. Indeed, Welsh rugby is infamous for doping offences."
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/ukad-banned-list-drugs-rugby-12515591Edited by El stovey on Wednesday 18th September 20:17
Having said that, rugby has a massive PED problem in all areas of the sport and the testing regime is laughable.
phil_cardiff said:
I think calling semi pro and amateur players "athletes" is a stretch. These are blokes mainly looking to bulk up for body image reasons, similar to many post-industrial areas in the UK.
Having said that, rugby has a massive PED problem in all areas of the sport and the testing regime is laughable.
PED as in what Lance Armstrong did - blood transfusions to boost performance?Having said that, rugby has a massive PED problem in all areas of the sport and the testing regime is laughable.
desolate said:
PED is
Performance
Enhancing
Drugs
So I'm hearing that there's a big problem in doping in rugby. Performance
Enhancing
Drugs
From what I read, there are two worrying angles; One that says that rugby Union has a disproportionately high number of banned athletes, yet at the same time, other comment says Rugby Union has probably the least tested of the major sports (in the UK).
So if it had the testing regime of say, athletics, it makes me think there'd be nobody left to play!
prand said:
desolate said:
PED is
Performance
Enhancing
Drugs
So I'm hearing that there's a big problem in doping in rugby. Performance
Enhancing
Drugs
From what I read, there are two worrying angles; One that says that rugby Union has a disproportionately high number of banned athletes, yet at the same time, other comment says Rugby Union has probably the least tested of the major sports (in the UK).
So if it had the testing regime of say, athletics, it makes me think there'd be nobody left to play!
Also, remember the jawlines and bald heads of rugby players in the 90s-00s?
There is also the issue of players who are effectively in pain for their entire career and play full of painkillers.
Stuff that is meant to be used as a one off is used long term - with long term consequences.
I used to work on the edges of the game and as consequence I am close to quite a few players who played late 90s to pretty recently.
Physically most of them suffering in some way, with some having pretty chronic medical conditions over an above joint/muscle issues.
Stuff that is meant to be used as a one off is used long term - with long term consequences.
I used to work on the edges of the game and as consequence I am close to quite a few players who played late 90s to pretty recently.
Physically most of them suffering in some way, with some having pretty chronic medical conditions over an above joint/muscle issues.
desolate said:
There is also the issue of players who are effectively in pain for their entire career and play full of painkillers.
Stuff that is meant to be used as a one off is used long term - with long term consequences.
I used to work on the edges of the game and as consequence I am close to quite a few players who played late 90s to pretty recently.
Physically most of them suffering in some way, with some having pretty chronic medical conditions over an above joint/muscle issues.
This is the real concern - all these aspiring young men and women wanting to be the stars of the future need to be bigger faster than what exists now. Stuff that is meant to be used as a one off is used long term - with long term consequences.
I used to work on the edges of the game and as consequence I am close to quite a few players who played late 90s to pretty recently.
Physically most of them suffering in some way, with some having pretty chronic medical conditions over an above joint/muscle issues.
18-22 stones of beef hurtling round the pitch 10,000 calorie daily intakes when on camp training sessions
Impact of two big people is massive and clearly it will damage them - I love seeing the big hits but I’d be just as happy if it were that 14-16 stone players were at the top end of weight. Less impact and might make viewers ty to cut down on weight themselves.
(We agree #thumbs up)
phil_cardiff said:
I think calling semi pro and amateur players "athletes" is a stretch. These are blokes mainly looking to bulk up for body image reasons, similar to many post-industrial areas in the UK.
Having said that, rugby has a massive PED problem in all areas of the sport and the testing regime is laughable.
Agreed. South Wales has a big steroids problem. It just happens that many of those also play rugby at a club level.Having said that, rugby has a massive PED problem in all areas of the sport and the testing regime is laughable.
If you drug tested Sunday League football players I'm sure you'd find a different issue.
Kermit power said:
Just the latest in a long line of nasty injuries on plastic pitches. Ben Curry after playing Sarries in the Prem Cup. How have these monstrosities not been banned????
Ouch that makes me wince. What is wrong with plain grass.
Environmentally friendly too - this fake surface stops birds pecking for worms and causes drainage issues too.
The Mad Monk said:
Welshbeef said:
What is wrong with plain grass.
Well, it can get churned up and excessively muddy.Quins' pitch certainly doesn't become excessively muddy, and whilst my (Nat 2 South) local club's second XV pitch does well to have a single blade of grass on it beyond roughly the middle of October, the first XV pitch stands up to the weather brilliantly because it drains properly. It may be that Premiership clubs decide it's cheaper to maintain an artificial pitch in playable condition, possibly, but the notion that they can't maintain a grass pitch in equally playable condition is just wrong.
Kermit power said:
It can, but does it really? I know you can find lots of footage on Youtube of Internationals in the Seventies where you can't actually tell the sides apart because they're so muddy, but that just doesn't happen any more!
Quins' pitch certainly doesn't become excessively muddy, and whilst my (Nat 2 South) local club's second XV pitch does well to have a single blade of grass on it beyond roughly the middle of October, the first XV pitch stands up to the weather brilliantly because it drains properly. It may be that Premiership clubs decide it's cheaper to maintain an artificial pitch in playable condition, possibly, but the notion that they can't maintain a grass pitch in equally playable condition is just wrong.
Quins' pitch certainly doesn't become excessively muddy, and whilst my (Nat 2 South) local club's second XV pitch does well to have a single blade of grass on it beyond roughly the middle of October, the first XV pitch stands up to the weather brilliantly because it drains properly. It may be that Premiership clubs decide it's cheaper to maintain an artificial pitch in playable condition, possibly, but the notion that they can't maintain a grass pitch in equally playable condition is just wrong.
We’ve been to the Ricoh a few times during January / February and the pitch looks like the Somme!
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