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I though the England v France semi was a cracker.
I have paid good money to see matches at Twickenham that were way, way worse than that; the infamous defeat to Argentina in 2006, for example.
This tournament deserved a better location and support in its early stages, rather than tucked away on Irish village club grounds.
I have paid good money to see matches at Twickenham that were way, way worse than that; the infamous defeat to Argentina in 2006, for example.
This tournament deserved a better location and support in its early stages, rather than tucked away on Irish village club grounds.
DocJock said:
hornetrider said:
Women's world cup semis on now. ABs v USA first up... Female Haka is hilarious, sorry.
Yeah, no disrespect intended, but the female haka is ridiculous.The UK/France match was nail biter up until the last 1/4 when France had nothing left (too much reliance on their French No8?).
As a low order (grass roots i.e. U12) coach for my local team the message I am hearing is how can we get more players.
This Women's World Cup has been a brilliant opportunity to watch rugby that isn't owned by Sky TV.
And the rugby has been excellent.
(Just off to watch the Brittish Super Bikes on ITV4).
I'll be back.
I read this and I think premiership rugby can go f
k themselves. Pardon my french.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/24/brit...
Who the fk does he think he is? Don't fk with the Lions.
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k themselves. Pardon my french.https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/24/brit...
Who the f
k does he think he is? Don't fk with the Lions.This post brought to you by Speyside's finest.
hornetrider said:
I read this and I think premiership rugby can go fk themselves. Pardon my french.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/24/brit...
Who the fk does he think he is? Don't fk with the Lions.
This post brought to you by Speyside's finest.
Personally, I fully agree with him.k themselves. Pardon my french.https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/24/brit...
Who the f
k does he think he is? Don't fk with the Lions.This post brought to you by Speyside's finest.
As a result of the Lions being on Sky and on at a fairly anti-social time this time around, I only watched a few minutes of the last test and really didn't miss it.
I know I'm in the minority in that I'd always rather see England play than the Lions, but I certainly don't see the need for more bloody pointless warm up games!
I think it was different when rugby was amateur but in the light of full professionalism and the large amounts of money involved, are you really saying the Premiership shouldn't be protecting their business?
hornetrider said:
I'm saying their business is enhanced by the Lions and that they should respect the history and tradition of the sport by supporting it.
Should we respect it by removing the professional setups in the individual home nations them, so that the Lions can go back to being the pinnacle of Northern Hemisphere rugby then, rather than just a four yearly less well prepared sideshow?Having said that, I see nothing in that article to suggest they don't want to support the Lions anyway. Maybe the Lions just need to be a bit less arrogant and start a conversation if they want to remain relevant?
The recommended 32 match maximum already means that a successful team loses out if their players play the 6N and autumn internationals. 9 matches, leaving 23 for European Cup and Premiership matches
A Lions tour means they lose them for another 4 or 5 matches, all the while paying their salaries and risking losing them to injury.
I am all for The Lions, but they need to remember they are 'borrowing' these players from the clubs. Conversely, the clubs need to acknowledge the halo effect the Lions have on club rugby and the improvement their players will make working with different, top coaches and players for six weeks.
Basically, they all need to put down their egos and have a sensible discussion about it instead of puffing out their chests and posturing.
A Lions tour means they lose them for another 4 or 5 matches, all the while paying their salaries and risking losing them to injury.
I am all for The Lions, but they need to remember they are 'borrowing' these players from the clubs. Conversely, the clubs need to acknowledge the halo effect the Lions have on club rugby and the improvement their players will make working with different, top coaches and players for six weeks.
Basically, they all need to put down their egos and have a sensible discussion about it instead of puffing out their chests and posturing.
DocJock said:
The recommended 32 match maximum already means that a successful team loses out if their players play the 6N and autumn internationals. 9 matches, leaving 23 for European Cup and Premiership matches
A Lions tour means they lose them for another 4 or 5 matches, all the while paying their salaries and risking losing them to injury.
I am all for The Lions, but they need to remember they are 'borrowing' these players from the clubs. Conversely, the clubs need to acknowledge the halo effect the Lions have on club rugby and the improvement their players will make working with different, top coaches and players for six weeks.
Basically, they all need to put down their egos and have a sensible discussion about it instead of puffing out their chests and posturing.
well said chapA Lions tour means they lose them for another 4 or 5 matches, all the while paying their salaries and risking losing them to injury.
I am all for The Lions, but they need to remember they are 'borrowing' these players from the clubs. Conversely, the clubs need to acknowledge the halo effect the Lions have on club rugby and the improvement their players will make working with different, top coaches and players for six weeks.
Basically, they all need to put down their egos and have a sensible discussion about it instead of puffing out their chests and posturing.
hornetrider said:
Kermit power said:
Should we respect it by removing the professional setups in the individual home nations
Don't be silly, make sense lad.After all, the unsportsmanlike way that they go around having permanent coaching staff and regular fixtures which mean that at the very least England and Ireland would beat the Lions most of the time is surely disrespectful to the glory that is the Lions?
It could it just be that the Lions are a bit of a pointless anachronism these days?
I don't get the whole disliking the Lions thing.
Maybe its just me but having something instead of the normal summer tours, something to bridge the 4 year world cup wait, is something to hold onto and cherish.
Bringing together the home nations which, outside of the athletics is pretty rare, & it clearly means a lot to the hosts (financially if nothing else!).
Without some traditions Rugby would be a worse sport. The Baa Baas and the Lions may be an anachronism but I wouldnt want to be without them.
Its a fine line between keeping tradition and keeping up with the times, increasing pressure on player welfare needs to be a strong consideration but, however its achieved, the Lions must go on.
The players also seem to love it, the pinacle of many a career, which is why i dont see it going anywhere. If the players didnt care then it might be a different story.
Maybe its just me but having something instead of the normal summer tours, something to bridge the 4 year world cup wait, is something to hold onto and cherish.
Bringing together the home nations which, outside of the athletics is pretty rare, & it clearly means a lot to the hosts (financially if nothing else!).
Without some traditions Rugby would be a worse sport. The Baa Baas and the Lions may be an anachronism but I wouldnt want to be without them.
Its a fine line between keeping tradition and keeping up with the times, increasing pressure on player welfare needs to be a strong consideration but, however its achieved, the Lions must go on.
The players also seem to love it, the pinacle of many a career, which is why i dont see it going anywhere. If the players didnt care then it might be a different story.
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