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df76 said:
Highly unlikely. The virus isn’t expected to peak until May. Season is done in that scenario.
Expected to peak in early June - then there is the 9 odd weeks the other side of the peak taking us nearly to Sspt (this is why Trump dropped that into his speech today “it will wash through over many months probably Aug )schmalex said:
Yes. 62 miles!!
The lads play in the Oxfordshire, Berkshire and Buckinghamshire league so we have a few long drives on a Sunday morning.
It’s worth it, though, when you see how much they enjoy it.
The chips are down for them now and the task ahead is simple; Beat Reading Abbey with a bonus point win next Sunday and the league title is theirs...
Sorry they didn't get to actually win "properly". The lads play in the Oxfordshire, Berkshire and Buckinghamshire league so we have a few long drives on a Sunday morning.
It’s worth it, though, when you see how much they enjoy it.
The chips are down for them now and the task ahead is simple; Beat Reading Abbey with a bonus point win next Sunday and the league title is theirs...
This year (U12) was the first year of County cup matches for my youngest, with only the finals left to play, so they're a bit gutted (although not as much as we all are about their tour also being cancelled), but hopefully as it's a cup competition, they might get to finish it in September...
some good news:
Michael Fatialofa: 'Miracle' Worcester lock walks unaided after serious neck injury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51988979
Michael Fatialofa: 'Miracle' Worcester lock walks unaided after serious neck injury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51988979
irocfan said:
some good news:
Michael Fatialofa: 'Miracle' Worcester lock walks unaided after serious neck injury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51988979
This was the first I'd heard about this. Really hope he gets to play again.Michael Fatialofa: 'Miracle' Worcester lock walks unaided after serious neck injury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51988979
I follow Ed Jackson, who played for Wasps & Dragons, on Facebook and his recovery is nothing short of miraculous. A total inspiration and Ive been following his recovery and return to some sort of normal life. He partially but permenantly severed his spinal chord diving into a pool, initially assessed as paralysed from thw neck down, but he was lucky and worked hard to retain some feeling and gain movement in his lower body.
However he's not going to be playing rugby again.
irocfan said:
some good news:
Michael Fatialofa: 'Miracle' Worcester lock walks unaided after serious neck injury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51988979
Wow, I wasn't expecting a recovery of that level, and so soon.Michael Fatialofa: 'Miracle' Worcester lock walks unaided after serious neck injury
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51988979
Keep it going Fats.
And well done all the medical staff.
Kermit power said:
Sorry they didn't get to actually win "properly".
This year (U12) was the first year of County cup matches for my youngest, with only the finals left to play, so they're a bit gutted (although not as much as we all are about their tour also being cancelled), but hopefully as it's a cup competition, they might get to finish it in September...
They’re happy because they got themselves in the position to win through the two default matches, but gutted they couldn’t beat their arch rivals for the title (or the other way round as it was going to come down to Newbury / Abbey for the 3rd year running). Sadly, this is the same age group that aren’t sitting their GCSEs. They feel, generally, as if all their hard work has been in veinThis year (U12) was the first year of County cup matches for my youngest, with only the finals left to play, so they're a bit gutted (although not as much as we all are about their tour also being cancelled), but hopefully as it's a cup competition, they might get to finish it in September...
schmalex said:
They feel, generally, as if all their hard work has been in vein
Didn't realise they started injecting steroids so young!
;)I do think the kids are being hit hard by this though. It will be interesting to see if there's a 'lost generation' of academics and sports people gobally due to the virus. I suspect it won't, but as you say there are many life experiences that are being missed this year.
Will Carling's been keeping some of his old mates busy.
https://twitter.com/willcarling/status/12463553215...
https://twitter.com/willcarling/status/12463553215...
Brian Moore Suggests That Covid19 Is a Chance to Reform The Game
Edited.
Covid-19 has given rugby, particularly English rugby, the chance to bring some sanity to its finances.
Before we discuss Premiership and Championship wages, let us look at by far the biggest proportion of the sport. Right now, many junior club committees will be forced to face the fact that, though they are not professional and now have no income, they are saddled with contracts for players which cumulatively take £30,000-40,000 out of their funds before anything else is spent.
When clubs come back together, they should ponder this essential point: what have we really missed? I will bet it is the camaraderie, not the chance to compete in the next ladder of an impossibly long league structure. That is the point of junior rugby, the players and members of clubs enjoying themselves.
The RFU should immediately revisit its rules on player payments and reverse the system that came in after its last, unsatisfactory review. Clubs below level three who apply for assistance under the RFU bail-out scheme should not be helped if they pay players and, from now on, all clubs below that level should be banned from paying players.
The junior game is slowly dying and this crisis, though unwelcome, gives the chance to reset grass-roots rugby on a sustainable path. The vast majority of junior clubs want this, but they are being held to ransom by a few who, hopefully, will now see sense and admit that they are facilitating the slow demise of the junior game.
If it wanted to go further, it could look at reforming the game below level eight by allowing clubs to opt out of the rigid league structure and form local tables, so they could revert to playing their own fixtures with predominantly local teams. This would renew local rivalries, cut travelling costs and dramatically alter the time needed to fulfil fixtures. It would get the lower levels of the game back to where they used to be.
A few years ago, there were a handful of players on £400,000 per annum; now there are far more, and that does not include sponsorships, international payments and so on.
Fortunately, there could be help on the way via the unlikely source of injury statistics.
There is emerging research, being withheld, that shows injury rates in the last 15 minutes of games are increasing unacceptably. Ultimately, safety might force the game to decide on this point, which it has been avoiding because it dares not face down conventional wisdom, however demonstrably flawed.
If we take one message from this article it is:-
"The junior game is slowly dying and this crisis, though unwelcome, gives the chance to reset grass-roots rugby on a sustainable path".
A message that I have been saying for a long.time. The junior game is dying. One major reason is that fit men in their 20s and 30s, instead of playing rugby on a Saturday afternoon are sitting watching the likes of Harlequins, Wasps and so on.
Edited.
Covid-19 has given rugby, particularly English rugby, the chance to bring some sanity to its finances.
Before we discuss Premiership and Championship wages, let us look at by far the biggest proportion of the sport. Right now, many junior club committees will be forced to face the fact that, though they are not professional and now have no income, they are saddled with contracts for players which cumulatively take £30,000-40,000 out of their funds before anything else is spent.
When clubs come back together, they should ponder this essential point: what have we really missed? I will bet it is the camaraderie, not the chance to compete in the next ladder of an impossibly long league structure. That is the point of junior rugby, the players and members of clubs enjoying themselves.
The RFU should immediately revisit its rules on player payments and reverse the system that came in after its last, unsatisfactory review. Clubs below level three who apply for assistance under the RFU bail-out scheme should not be helped if they pay players and, from now on, all clubs below that level should be banned from paying players.
The junior game is slowly dying and this crisis, though unwelcome, gives the chance to reset grass-roots rugby on a sustainable path. The vast majority of junior clubs want this, but they are being held to ransom by a few who, hopefully, will now see sense and admit that they are facilitating the slow demise of the junior game.
If it wanted to go further, it could look at reforming the game below level eight by allowing clubs to opt out of the rigid league structure and form local tables, so they could revert to playing their own fixtures with predominantly local teams. This would renew local rivalries, cut travelling costs and dramatically alter the time needed to fulfil fixtures. It would get the lower levels of the game back to where they used to be.
A few years ago, there were a handful of players on £400,000 per annum; now there are far more, and that does not include sponsorships, international payments and so on.
Fortunately, there could be help on the way via the unlikely source of injury statistics.
There is emerging research, being withheld, that shows injury rates in the last 15 minutes of games are increasing unacceptably. Ultimately, safety might force the game to decide on this point, which it has been avoiding because it dares not face down conventional wisdom, however demonstrably flawed.
If we take one message from this article it is:-
"The junior game is slowly dying and this crisis, though unwelcome, gives the chance to reset grass-roots rugby on a sustainable path".
A message that I have been saying for a long.time. The junior game is dying. One major reason is that fit men in their 20s and 30s, instead of playing rugby on a Saturday afternoon are sitting watching the likes of Harlequins, Wasps and so on.
Couldn’t figure out where to post this but thought I would start here..
Long story short but my wife and family recently lost a solid rock of a man due to corona virus.
My wife’s Dad, Garry was an absolutely top gent and all round rugby fellow. He was as happy standing on the touch line of a non league match in deepest January, as in his former playing days as captain of Barnet Elizabethans in the 80’s as he was a staunch weekly supporter of his son, who plays for Barnes in the National league. I feel truly lucky and humbled to have somehow stumbled ten years ago on a family as fully ingratiated in the game we all love, that I could become a part of.
His sad and untimely passing has been so far without fanfare or ceremony. A simple funeral a few weeks ago only.
Since we are all locked down and there isn’t even the
sniff of a memorial service in sight for some
time, it feels appropriate that some fundraising for the NHS is in order.
In the short term my brother in law and his fellow Barnes team mates (along with some help from some familiar rugby faces) have decided attempt to lift 1million kg on Saturday in his memory and to raise money for the NHS and the excellent work they are doing. If any rugby chaps on here want to get involved or donate then please find the main link below.
https://www.barnesrfc.org/news/be-part-of-our-amaz...
https://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-displa...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_fWl0Wg9qV/?igshid=hb...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_ebYAFAx_P/?igshid=65...
Rather humbling is that there are some current top flight players and former well known ones backing this on their social media. Something which ironically he would have probably have said he would have given his life for to have them speak his name in honour.
All the best
Long story short but my wife and family recently lost a solid rock of a man due to corona virus.
My wife’s Dad, Garry was an absolutely top gent and all round rugby fellow. He was as happy standing on the touch line of a non league match in deepest January, as in his former playing days as captain of Barnet Elizabethans in the 80’s as he was a staunch weekly supporter of his son, who plays for Barnes in the National league. I feel truly lucky and humbled to have somehow stumbled ten years ago on a family as fully ingratiated in the game we all love, that I could become a part of.
His sad and untimely passing has been so far without fanfare or ceremony. A simple funeral a few weeks ago only.
Since we are all locked down and there isn’t even the
sniff of a memorial service in sight for some
time, it feels appropriate that some fundraising for the NHS is in order.
In the short term my brother in law and his fellow Barnes team mates (along with some help from some familiar rugby faces) have decided attempt to lift 1million kg on Saturday in his memory and to raise money for the NHS and the excellent work they are doing. If any rugby chaps on here want to get involved or donate then please find the main link below.
https://www.barnesrfc.org/news/be-part-of-our-amaz...
https://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-displa...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_fWl0Wg9qV/?igshid=hb...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_ebYAFAx_P/?igshid=65...
Rather humbling is that there are some current top flight players and former well known ones backing this on their social media. Something which ironically he would have probably have said he would have given his life for to have them speak his name in honour.
All the best
CB07 said:
Couldn’t figure out where to post this but thought I would start here..
Long story short but my wife and family recently lost a solid rock of a man due to corona virus.
My wife’s Dad, Garry was an absolutely top gent and all round rugby fellow. He was as happy standing on the touch line of a non league match in deepest January, as in his former playing days as captain of Barnet Elizabethans in the 80’s as he was a staunch weekly supporter of his son, who plays for Barnes in the National league. I feel truly lucky and humbled to have somehow stumbled ten years ago on a family as fully ingratiated in the game we all love, that I could become a part of.
His sad and untimely passing has been so far without fanfare or ceremony. A simple funeral a few weeks ago only.
Since we are all locked down and there isn’t even the
sniff of a memorial service in sight for some
time, it feels appropriate that some fundraising for the NHS is in order.
In the short term my brother in law and his fellow Barnes team mates (along with some help from some familiar rugby faces) have decided attempt to lift 1million kg on Saturday in his memory and to raise money for the NHS and the excellent work they are doing. If any rugby chaps on here want to get involved or donate then please find the main link below.
https://www.barnesrfc.org/news/be-part-of-our-amaz...
https://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-displa...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_fWl0Wg9qV/?igshid=hb...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_ebYAFAx_P/?igshid=65...
Rather humbling is that there are some current top flight players and former well known ones backing this on their social media. Something which ironically he would have probably have said he would have given his life for to have them speak his name in honour.
All the best
Not to want to quote myself, but the efforts today raised over 100k for the NHS. Still time to donate at the links above. Long story short but my wife and family recently lost a solid rock of a man due to corona virus.
My wife’s Dad, Garry was an absolutely top gent and all round rugby fellow. He was as happy standing on the touch line of a non league match in deepest January, as in his former playing days as captain of Barnet Elizabethans in the 80’s as he was a staunch weekly supporter of his son, who plays for Barnes in the National league. I feel truly lucky and humbled to have somehow stumbled ten years ago on a family as fully ingratiated in the game we all love, that I could become a part of.
His sad and untimely passing has been so far without fanfare or ceremony. A simple funeral a few weeks ago only.
Since we are all locked down and there isn’t even the
sniff of a memorial service in sight for some
time, it feels appropriate that some fundraising for the NHS is in order.
In the short term my brother in law and his fellow Barnes team mates (along with some help from some familiar rugby faces) have decided attempt to lift 1million kg on Saturday in his memory and to raise money for the NHS and the excellent work they are doing. If any rugby chaps on here want to get involved or donate then please find the main link below.
https://www.barnesrfc.org/news/be-part-of-our-amaz...
https://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/fundraiser-displa...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_fWl0Wg9qV/?igshid=hb...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_ebYAFAx_P/?igshid=65...
Rather humbling is that there are some current top flight players and former well known ones backing this on their social media. Something which ironically he would have probably have said he would have given his life for to have them speak his name in honour.
All the best
Cheers
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