Six Nations 2018
Discussion
DocJock said:
Scotland don't really have too many alternatives.
Perhaps start McInally and Kinghorn instead of Brown and Maitland
I'd prefer Scotland focused on the summer tour as an opportunity to try out a new halfback pairing - possibly George Horne and Adam Hastings looking to develop them as a strong alternative to the Price / Laidlaw / Russell option we have today with a view to giving them caps in the Autumn internationals.Perhaps start McInally and Kinghorn instead of Brown and Maitland
Laidlaw at 32? is nearing the end of his career - Russell blows hot and cold....so alternatives would be great.
Kermit power said:
Marcus Smith has been great for Quins this season, and I reckon he's probably going to be the default choice for the '23 RWC, but I'm not sure he's ready for an England test against the Boks just yet, and we certainly don't want him coming back broken!!
Is Henry Slade worth a crack, as another player who can cover both 10 & centre?
The only other player I can see on the radar (on the basis that Cipriani is really too old to be building around now) is Harry Malinder at Saints. He can again cover 10 & 12, so could be an interesting option?
Apart from that, any chance we could persuade Lewis Moody out of retirement? I still reckon he'd be worth 5 points a match, just for his ability to chase down restarts!
to be fair out of the people mentioned there for 2019 Cips would be a shoe-in. his tackling is no worse than Frod's (and by the sound of it Fazlet's too), he is able to think outside the box and has got some wheels. His place kicking while not great is still quite good. His issue is "does not mix well with others"Is Henry Slade worth a crack, as another player who can cover both 10 & centre?
The only other player I can see on the radar (on the basis that Cipriani is really too old to be building around now) is Harry Malinder at Saints. He can again cover 10 & 12, so could be an interesting option?
Apart from that, any chance we could persuade Lewis Moody out of retirement? I still reckon he'd be worth 5 points a match, just for his ability to chase down restarts!
MYOB said:
From an Irish perspective, please don't make any rash changes.
I agree. Although Larmour needs to be given more game time at 15, and we need a proper back-up for Sexton. I'd suggest he's used more sparingly now until RWC, and Carbery given more time at 10Controversially, as I'm a Leinster fan, I wonder if Carbery should consider a move to the likes of Munster for his own sakes. He's arguably third choice at either 10 or 15 currently in Dublin, even though I see him as Sexton's heir apparent longer term
I really didn't notice Farrell missing many tackles, l know it's been said that at Sarries he bumps players off to be picked up by others and I think the stats show this as a miss, although it is intentional.
He has also made several crucial recovery tackles catching players who have made a break, I think this stat may be a red herring.
He has also made several crucial recovery tackles catching players who have made a break, I think this stat may be a red herring.
gareth h said:
I really didn't notice Farrell missing many tackles, l know it's been said that at Sarries he bumps players off to be picked up by others and I think the stats show this as a miss, although it is intentional.
He has also made several crucial recovery tackles catching players who have made a break, I think this stat may be a red herring.
There is some attempt at providing mitigation for him in this article by suggesting that part of it is because he's attempting harder tackles to cover for diddy little George, but that seems to be completely contradicted by the fact that his tackling record in the Champions Cup is even worse, plus Ford has a significantly higher tackling success rate in the Six Nations than he does.He has also made several crucial recovery tackles catching players who have made a break, I think this stat may be a red herring.
I don't quite understand the notion of "bumping players off"? That makes it sound like he should be being pinged constantly for failure to use the arms in the tackle if he's making contact with the express intention of bumping them into another tackler?
After scoring seven tries for Ireland en route to their Grand Slam success, Jacob Stockdale has been named the Natwest Player of the Championship for this year's Six Nations.
Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
"It has been a truly memorable few weeks, making my first Six Nations appearance, winning the championship and then going on to complete the Grand Slam against England," Stockdale said.
"Breaking the try-scoring record was the cherry on top!
"It's an absolute honour to win the player of the championship, especially when you look at the amazing calibre of those short-listed."
Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
"It has been a truly memorable few weeks, making my first Six Nations appearance, winning the championship and then going on to complete the Grand Slam against England," Stockdale said.
"Breaking the try-scoring record was the cherry on top!
"It's an absolute honour to win the player of the championship, especially when you look at the amazing calibre of those short-listed."
Ructions said:
After scoring seven tries for Ireland en route to their Grand Slam success, Jacob Stockdale has been named the Natwest Player of the Championship for this year's Six Nations.
Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's a load of nonsense.Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's not statistically valid. Why not just draw a name out of a hat? That would be as democratic.
The Mad Monk said:
Ructions said:
After scoring seven tries for Ireland en route to their Grand Slam success, Jacob Stockdale has been named the Natwest Player of the Championship for this year's Six Nations.
Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's a load of nonsense.Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's not statistically valid. Why not just draw a name out of a hat? That would be as democratic.
Ructions said:
The Mad Monk said:
Ructions said:
After scoring seven tries for Ireland en route to their Grand Slam success, Jacob Stockdale has been named the Natwest Player of the Championship for this year's Six Nations.
Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's a load of nonsense.Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's not statistically valid. Why not just draw a name out of a hat? That would be as democratic.
Ructions said:
The Mad Monk said:
Ructions said:
After scoring seven tries for Ireland en route to their Grand Slam success, Jacob Stockdale has been named the Natwest Player of the Championship for this year's Six Nations.
Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's a load of nonsense.Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's not statistically valid. Why not just draw a name out of a hat? That would be as democratic.
How was voting carried out. I didn't get the chance to vote! S'not fair!
I could go on.
The Mad Monk said:
Ructions said:
After scoring seven tries for Ireland en route to their Grand Slam success, Jacob Stockdale has been named the Natwest Player of the Championship for this year's Six Nations.
Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's a load of nonsense.Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's not statistically valid. Why not just draw a name out of a hat? That would be as democratic.
epom said:
The Mad Monk said:
Ructions said:
After scoring seven tries for Ireland en route to their Grand Slam success, Jacob Stockdale has been named the Natwest Player of the Championship for this year's Six Nations.
Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's a load of nonsense.Tournament organisers announced that the 21-year-old Stockdale took 32 per cent of the public vote, well clear of his team-mate Conor Murray in second, while fellow Ireland players Johnny Sexton and Keith Earls finished third and fourth, respectively.
More than 78,000 votes were cast on a six-player short-list, with Italy full-back Matteo Minozzi taking fifth and France captain Guilhem Guirado sixth.
Stockdale, who only made his Test debut last summer, claimed try doubles in Ireland's victories over Italy, Wales and Scotland, then added another touchdown during the Grand Slam-clinching triumph against England six days ago.
It's not statistically valid. Why not just draw a name out of a hat? That would be as democratic.
Not really, it's a simple enough question.
Edit to add: that's not me trying to be confrontational, it does read that way.
It's a genuine question, as mentioned by a previous poster Stockdale broke the try scoring record. Statistically speaking that's a pretty big deal overall.
Edit to add: that's not me trying to be confrontational, it does read that way.
It's a genuine question, as mentioned by a previous poster Stockdale broke the try scoring record. Statistically speaking that's a pretty big deal overall.
Edited by epom on Friday 23 March 22:45
The Mad Monk said:
How were the six players on the short list democratically chosen?
How was voting carried out. I didn't get the chance to vote! S'not fair!
I could go on.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/six-nations...How was voting carried out. I didn't get the chance to vote! S'not fair!
I could go on.
Ructions said:
The Mad Monk said:
How were the six players on the short list democratically chosen?
How was voting carried out. I didn't get the chance to vote! S'not fair!
I could go on.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/six-nations...How was voting carried out. I didn't get the chance to vote! S'not fair!
I could go on.
"this year's Player of the Championship shortlist was selected by a media panel of well-respected rugby writers and broadcasters from each of the six nations."
Perhaps I don't respect them. Any road up. It is not a statistically valid and democratic process. I didn't get the opportunity to vote.
You might as well stop half a dozen people in the street and declare their choice as 'Player of the Six Nations'.
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