Mixed Martial Arts Training Thread (Not UFC etc...)

[BRR]

Ayahuasca said:

Kick shield I guess. Square pad you hold against the body /leg. The other sort would indeed be insane. This morning my legs are a bit bruised.

Ah ok, makes sense, I was thinking that you guys must have legs of steel otherwise. I agree though the legs can still be pretty sore the next day from heavy drilling of low kicks.

[MC Bodge]

Tony Angelino said:

Aside of other issues raised, isn't it a really boring way of spending an hour?

Judo or BJJ is more fun, I suspect.

[Ayahuasca]

MC Bodge said:

Tony Angelino said:

Aside of other issues raised, isn't it a really boring way of spending an hour?

Judo or BJJ is more fun, I suspect.

We do those as well. Every session is different. Last week practiced O Goshi judo hip throw followed instantly by a BBJ style arm bar on the thrown person so combined both! All good fun.

[Hoofy]

Ayahuasca said:

MC Bodge said:

Tony Angelino said:

Aside of other issues raised, isn't it a really boring way of spending an hour?

Judo or BJJ is more fun, I suspect.

We do those as well. Every session is different. Last week practiced O Goshi judo hip throw followed instantly by a BBJ style arm bar on the thrown person so combined both! All good fun.

But you did the same technique for the entire hour didn't you?

[Ayahuasca]

Tonight’s was an hour of padded-up sparring. Interestingly, hard kicks go out the window and everyone reverts to boxing with kicks just used to feint or maintain distance. Only managed one throw. Most knackering, mainly due to the heat (30 degrees, no air con) and being fully gi-ed up and no water breaks. Utterly exhausted. Dropped 4 pounds in weight in the hour, water loss.

[MC Bodge]

As my shoulder is currently out of action, I'm taking the opportunity to run more and doing more leg and core calisthenics as well as trying to keep the shoulder moving gently.

It's best not to let fitness slip too far because of an injury to one joint.

Ho-hum.

[Hoofy]

MC Bodge said:

As my shoulder is currently out of action, I'm taking the opportunity to run more and doing more leg and core calisthenics as well as trying to keep the shoulder moving gently.

It's best not to let fitness slip too far because of an injury to one joint.

Ho-hum.

Very sensible. Hope it recovers quickly.

[MC Bodge]

Hoofy said:

MC Bodge said:

As my shoulder is currently out of action, I'm taking the opportunity to run more and doing more leg and core calisthenics as well as trying to keep the shoulder moving gently.

It's best not to let fitness slip too far because of an injury to one joint.

Ho-hum.

Very sensible. Hope it recovers quickly.

It didn't appear be, although over the last 2 days it has improved considerably.

I was able to swing Indian clubs with no pain and do some light weights, but getting up off the floor and switching of my alarm clock in.tje morning still hurts....

I'll give it another week before considering going back onto the mat.... Ho-hum

[Hoofy]

MC Bodge said:

Hoofy said:

MC Bodge said:

As my shoulder is currently out of action, I'm taking the opportunity to run more and doing more leg and core calisthenics as well as trying to keep the shoulder moving gently.

It's best not to let fitness slip too far because of an injury to one joint.

Ho-hum.

Very sensible. Hope it recovers quickly.

It didn't appear be, although over the last 2 days it has improved considerably.

I was able to swing Indian clubs with no pain and do some light weights, but getting up off the floor and switching of my alarm clock in.tje morning still hurts....

I'll give it another week before considering going back onto the mat.... Ho-hum

Frustrating.

I'm only doing lighter stuff with focus more on techniques, locks, pressure point stuff but thinking I'm too old for this st especially when someone accidentally kneed me in the back of the head last night.

[biggbn]

Ayahuasca said:

We do those as well. Every session is different. Last week practiced O Goshi judo hip throw followed instantly by a BBJ style arm bar on the thrown person so combined both! All good fun.

Any hip or shoulder throw should transition into a jujigatame easily enough if you are fluid. Great finisher.

[MC Bodge]

I'm back on the mat, gently. The shoulder has improved a lot recently. With taping and care not to hurt it again soon, I'm hoping to resume normal service quickly.

I can now understand why older blokes tend to go for BJJ rather than judo, but I do enjoy the stand up and the fairly extensive newaza that my club does (old skool coaches) and there are a few BJJ lads who come along too.

I would like to be able to make it to more than 2 sessions per week, though.

Edited by MC Bodge on Wednesday 20th February 07:56

[Ayahuasca]

Last few classes have been all about grappling on the floor. I am a novice at this and found it quite tiring. Different sort of fitness from punching and kicking. I was being tied up in knots and suffocated, need more practice!

[MC Bodge]

Ayahuasca said:

Last few classes have been all about grappling on the floor. I am a novice at this and found it quite tiring. Different sort of fitness from punching and kicking. I was being tied up in knots and suffocated, need more practice!

You can't really hide whilst entangled with somebody on the floor. As you improve you become more efficient, though (so i'm told!) and, if you can take control, the other person has to put the effort in.

I found the ground work physically when I started, but I was in reasonable all-round shape. It seems to require good cardiovascular endurance, anaerobic endurance, core strength (static and dynamic), power and flexibility

I still use too much strength at the moment, although against some people I can take control.

Edited by MC Bodge on Wednesday 20th February 22:06

[Ayahuasca]

https://youtu.be/2BygcrzcjRk

Kudos to ‘kwonkicker’ doing this basic grappling tips video. I would have found it somewhat uncomfortable. I think. Maybe not. Yes. Oh, go on then.

[ben5575]

Yeah yeah, but we all know what the reality is...

[Ayahuasca]

Learned that what I have been doing is ‘closed guard’. Both hanging onto one, and getting out of one. Basic stuff, but getting a bit better at it. Much easier now I am not busting a gut all the time.

[Halb]

That lady trainer, I've watched a few of her videos. Her Black Canary one is rather athletic.

[Pete102]

Ayahuasca said:

Learned that what I have been doing is ‘closed guard’. Both hanging onto one, and getting out of one. Basic stuff, but getting a bit better at it. Much easier now I am not busting a gut all the time.

If I can give you one piece of advice if you're new to BJJ / grappling is learn to relax and use power when you have the technique and timing down. So many times I roll with newbies who grip on for dear life, in reality this is making it easier for me and sapping their own energy.

Slow down, relax, enjoy it and it will come....eventually - This is one of the aspects of BJJ / grappling I love, very few people are naturals at it, its muscle memory and time-served.

[ben5575]

Mixed bag sparring last night.

Couple of the experienced 'big boys' were in so we were able to up the consequences a little which always focuses the mind (or buzzes it!). Great fun.

Then working with a beginner, showing him some basics and acting as a punch bag for him to practise on, only for him to celebrate catching me 'flush in the face' as he called it. Cheeky little... Grrrr <deep breath>

And finally an errant elbow blocked a head kick resulting in a broken toe. So I am hobbling around this morning.

[MC Bodge]

Pete102 said:

If I can give you one piece of advice if you're new to BJJ / grappling is learn to relax and use power when you have the technique and timing down. So many times I roll with newbies who grip on for dear life, in reality this is making it easier for me and sapping their own energy.

Slow down, relax, enjoy it and it will come....eventually - This is one of the aspects of BJJ / grappling I love, very few people are naturals at it, its muscle memory and time-served.

When going against somebody less able, I'm able to take my time and be calm. When against somebody similar it's a little more frantic, but there is some movement.

Up against good and/or very accomplished people, it becomes a battle for survival, often resisting through strength controlling your breathing, one can hang on for quite a while.

Tapping early when you get stuck is probably the best thing in that scenario, and then you can be tied up again and again, rather than just bogged down in a stale-mate.

Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 23 February 14:10