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Surprisingly, I appear to have been struck by an injury that isn't related to any of my legacy injuries, but potentially quite troublesome.
After 41 years of life and 4 months of twice a week judo, my top finger joints are very sore, swollen and stiff and the problem is now lingering for days. Some of the middle joints have become larger than they were. My once loose wedding ring now needs a good twist to remove.
I have taped the middle finger joints for most of the sessions and I am surprised by how much punishment they have taken already.
Rugby in the pack and climbing when I was younger probably haven't helped either.
Not good....
After 41 years of life and 4 months of twice a week judo, my top finger joints are very sore, swollen and stiff and the problem is now lingering for days. Some of the middle joints have become larger than they were. My once loose wedding ring now needs a good twist to remove.
I have taped the middle finger joints for most of the sessions and I am surprised by how much punishment they have taken already.
Rugby in the pack and climbing when I was younger probably haven't helped either.
Not good....
Sadly I think it's called getting old mate...
Talking about embracing old age, I went to my first yoga/pilates class last week. Turns out that what used to be MILFs to me have now become women of a certain age.
It really was excellent, surprisingly so. We train for explosive/cardio, so static strength is something altogether new to me and bloody hard work!
I hate stretching so I thought the only way I would do any is if I was forced to in a class.
Worth a go if you can pluck up the courage. I now have an environmentally friendly yoga mat with match hessian bag...
Talking about embracing old age, I went to my first yoga/pilates class last week. Turns out that what used to be MILFs to me have now become women of a certain age.
It really was excellent, surprisingly so. We train for explosive/cardio, so static strength is something altogether new to me and bloody hard work!
I hate stretching so I thought the only way I would do any is if I was forced to in a class.
Worth a go if you can pluck up the courage. I now have an environmentally friendly yoga mat with match hessian bag...
ben5575 said:
Sadly I think it's called getting old mate...
Talking about embracing old age, I went to my first yoga/pilates class last week. Turns out that what used to be MILFs to me have now become women of a certain age.
It really was excellent, surprisingly so. We train for explosive/cardio, so static strength is something altogether new to me and bloody hard work!
I hate stretching so I thought the only way I would do any is if I was forced to in a class.
Worth a go if you can pluck up the courage. I now have an environmentally friendly yoga mat with match hessian bag...
I went to yoga for about a year. It was very pleasant, but my physio recommended against it as it could cause over-stretching of my somewhat loose ligaments (maybe there's a connection with my fingers....). Talking about embracing old age, I went to my first yoga/pilates class last week. Turns out that what used to be MILFs to me have now become women of a certain age.
It really was excellent, surprisingly so. We train for explosive/cardio, so static strength is something altogether new to me and bloody hard work!
I hate stretching so I thought the only way I would do any is if I was forced to in a class.
Worth a go if you can pluck up the courage. I now have an environmentally friendly yoga mat with match hessian bag...
I might try Pilates.
As well as the older women being now "mature", it also dawns on you that some of the young, attractive women are young enough to be your daughter and/or see you as a middle-aged man, like their Dad.
Back on topic, the fingers are most sore first thing in the morning. It appears be a common issue for judo and BJJ players.
Grrrr. Enthusiasm can't compensate for body failure....
Added to the other lingering injuries that I've already picked up, I'll need to think carefully about what to do.
Grrrr. Enthusiasm can't compensate for body failure....
Added to the other lingering injuries that I've already picked up, I'll need to think carefully about what to do.
ben5575 said:
How's your shoulder btw?
That's another thing. It has been tending towards getting better, albeit with some days when it has gone backwards a little, and I have been back at Judo, but it is still stiff, sore and limited in some directions. I can now lie on it for a while and hang from a bar for a bit. I can do bent over rows, but I can't do a pullup without pain. I wouldn't want to injure it further in the near future.I've also developed a bit of golfers elbow...
If this is what happens to someone of early middle age who was in fairly good shape beforehand (but is unable to take it easy), it shows just how tough a sport it is.
It's the fingers that concern me most.
I think I need a trip to the physio for an assessment.
Fingers - if you're finding they're generally fine until you have trained then perhaps buy a fingerboard and install it over one of your doors to train on days when you're not going to the session.
This kind of thing: https://amzn.to/2HAGngr
Or if you're a monster like me*, just do pull ups on door frames.
* - I'm hoping it becomes a PH meme but I've yet to create one that is. I guess they happen when someone is actually serious in their post.
This kind of thing: https://amzn.to/2HAGngr
Or if you're a monster like me*, just do pull ups on door frames.
* - I'm hoping it becomes a PH meme but I've yet to create one that is. I guess they happen when someone is actually serious in their post.
Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 19th March 14:44
Hoofy said:
Fingers - if you're finding they're generally fine until you have trained then perhaps buy a fingerboard and install it over one of your doors to train on days when you're not going to the session.
This kind of thing: https://amzn.to/2HAGngr
Or if you're a monster like me*, just do pull ups on door frames.
My finger/forearm strength isn't bad. I have done door frame pullups in the past, but my "finger tips" are quite long (so it needs to be quite thick moulding) -which may be increasing the lateral leverage on my sub-prime ligaments/joints.This kind of thing: https://amzn.to/2HAGngr
Or if you're a monster like me*, just do pull ups on door frames.
The pain is lingering, it's not just muscles and tendon inflammation after training.
Just on the old aches and pains, I've started with the CBD oil to see if it assists with my arthritis/AS condition. I'm only 5 days in but so far so good, it might just be a placebo but I've noticed a difference and not taken any either anti inflamitory or pain killing tablets and for me it's an acheivement to train BJJ or wrestling without their assistance.
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
Fingers - if you're finding they're generally fine until you have trained then perhaps buy a fingerboard and install it over one of your doors to train on days when you're not going to the session.
This kind of thing: https://amzn.to/2HAGngr
Or if you're a monster like me*, just do pull ups on door frames.
My finger/forearm strength isn't bad. I have done door frame pullups in the past, but my "finger tips" are quite long (so it needs to be quite thick moulding) -which may be increasing the lateral leverage on my sub-prime ligaments/joints.This kind of thing: https://amzn.to/2HAGngr
Or if you're a monster like me*, just do pull ups on door frames.
The pain is lingering, it's not just muscles and tendon inflammation after training.
ked a finger joint (felt something pop when I was doing one finger pull ups and couldn't close it much beyond straight!). Thought I'd wrecked it permanently but due to a change in circumstances, I was only able to climb once a fortnight - finger is perfect now. 
Hoofy said:
Sounds like, sadly, you need to take a few weeks off. I was climbing 3-4 times a week at one point and fked a finger joint (felt something pop when I was doing one finger pull ups and couldn't close it much beyond straight!). Thought I'd wrecked it permanently but due to a change in circumstances, I was only able to climb once a fortnight - finger is perfect now.
Yes, I am going to lay off for now. In my case it hasn't been a "pop", it is similar across multiple fingers.ked a finger joint (felt something pop when I was doing one finger pull ups and couldn't close it much beyond straight!). Thought I'd wrecked it permanently but due to a change in circumstances, I was only able to climb once a fortnight - finger is perfect now. I am concerned that grip fighting in a gi is just going to accelerate (irreversible) wear and tear on my (relatively long and thin, slightly over mobile ) fingers.
MC Bodge said:
Hoofy said:
Sounds like, sadly, you need to take a few weeks off. I was climbing 3-4 times a week at one point and fked a finger joint (felt something pop when I was doing one finger pull ups and couldn't close it much beyond straight!). Thought I'd wrecked it permanently but due to a change in circumstances, I was only able to climb once a fortnight - finger is perfect now.
Yes, I am going to lay off for now. In my case it hasn't been a "pop", it is similar across multiple fingers.ked a finger joint (felt something pop when I was doing one finger pull ups and couldn't close it much beyond straight!). Thought I'd wrecked it permanently but due to a change in circumstances, I was only able to climb once a fortnight - finger is perfect now. I am concerned that grip fighting in a gi is just going to accelerate (irreversible) wear and tear on my (relatively long and thin, slightly over mobile ) fingers.
MC Bodge said:
Yes, I am going to lay off for now. In my case it hasn't been a "pop", it is similar across multiple fingers.
I am concerned that grip fighting in a gi is just going to accelerate (irreversible) wear and tear on my (relatively long and thin, slightly over mobile ) fingers.
Perfect excuse for no gi for a few weeks then! I am concerned that grip fighting in a gi is just going to accelerate (irreversible) wear and tear on my (relatively long and thin, slightly over mobile ) fingers.
The shoulder is still not right.
It had gone into some sort of spasm and I was very asymmetrical, which the physio found quite interesting.
My fingers are now less sore, but some of the joints still hurt if I twist them doing normal activities (even sorting out the laundry...).
I've enjoyed getting more time to run and cycle again and have kept up my strength and conditioning (albeit taking care of my shoulder). I'm working on my running speed/strength and intend to do more mountain stuff.
It's looking less likely that I'll get back to judo. Although it is really enjoyable, it seems like a good way to wreck my body. I'm incapable of taking it easy.
No gi / wrestling might make more sense, although the nearest clubs are further away and injuries are still quite a risk.
It had gone into some sort of spasm and I was very asymmetrical, which the physio found quite interesting.
My fingers are now less sore, but some of the joints still hurt if I twist them doing normal activities (even sorting out the laundry...).
I've enjoyed getting more time to run and cycle again and have kept up my strength and conditioning (albeit taking care of my shoulder). I'm working on my running speed/strength and intend to do more mountain stuff.
It's looking less likely that I'll get back to judo. Although it is really enjoyable, it seems like a good way to wreck my body. I'm incapable of taking it easy.
No gi / wrestling might make more sense, although the nearest clubs are further away and injuries are still quite a risk.
Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 30th April 19:35
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