The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

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tuscaneer

7,817 posts

226 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Davos123 said:
There's no way Fury gets the decision if its a remotely competitive fight. That said, if it goes 12 rounds I doubt it'll have been remotely competitive, just Fury making Wilder look like a useless tt until the final bell like he did with Klitschko. Wilder by decision feels really unlikely to me
Let's not pretend that that version of wlad was anything other than a distracted shell of the real wlad....the klitschko that fought aj...at 41 years old by the way... (fully focussed) would have cleaned furys clock...that's why he avoided the rematch..he lucked out against the worst version of wladimir. If fury had faced the wlad who fought haye he would have been starched... to call him a "useless tt" really is an absurd statement given all the elements In the equation.....he was never gonna rematch klitschko because he knew the inevitable result in a rematch


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Edited by tuscaneer on Tuesday 27th November 19:32

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Chad_Hugo said:
Do people see Tyson getting a decision against Wilder in LA if the fight is remotely close or competitive?

Unfortunately I don't. Thinking back to the scoring of Wilder vs Ortiz around 6 rounds in every judge had Wilder up on the cars didn't they? Considering Wilder for me had barely won a round at that point, I am not so optimistic of a point decision.
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Only if it is a very wide margin that the home nation can't ge away with!!

Read some interesting trivia today: Wilder got a bronze in the olympics after only 3 years of boxing, the guy Wilder lost to, had in the previous round beaten oleksandr usyk!

theboyfold

10,927 posts

227 months

Tuesday 27th November 2018
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Wilder by KO inside 5 I think.

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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tuscaneer said:
Davos123 said:
There's no way Fury gets the decision if its a remotely competitive fight. That said, if it goes 12 rounds I doubt it'll have been remotely competitive, just Fury making Wilder look like a useless tt until the final bell like he did with Klitschko. Wilder by decision feels really unlikely to me
Let's not pretend that that version of wlad was anything other than a distracted shell of the real wlad....the klitschko that fought aj...at 41 years old by the way... (fully focussed) would have cleaned furys clock...that's why he avoided the rematch..he lucked out against the worst version of wladimir. If fury had faced the wlad who fought haye he would have been starched... to call him a "useless tt" really is an absurd statement given all the elements In the equation.....he was never gonna rematch klitschko because he knew the inevitable result in a rematch
Wasn't Fury also on PEDs when he fought Wlad?

tuscaneer

7,817 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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The first positive test pre dated the fight which tells me that the ban should have been back dated to before the fight.....that would have completely changed the entire heavyweight landscape!

Daniel1

2,931 posts

199 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Fittster said:
Wasn't Fury also on PEDs when he fought Wlad?
Who isn't on PEDs in top level boxing

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Daniel1 said:
Fittster said:
Wasn't Fury also on PEDs when he fought Wlad?
Who isn't on PEDs in top level boxing
Tusc?

tuscaneer

7,817 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Gameface said:
Daniel1 said:
Fittster said:
Wasn't Fury also on PEDs when he fought Wlad?
Who isn't on PEDs in top level boxing
Tusc?
laugh.....if by "top level boxing" you mean a slightly rotund 43 year old gentleman who gets knocked about a bit at the local gym....then yeah, i'm defo clean pal......wanna test me piss??rofl


Edited by tuscaneer on Wednesday 28th November 11:29

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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I think with Fury, you also need to turn a blind eye to any 'cutting edge' ways that all this weight may have been lost so fast. As im suprised that it has happened so quick, perhaps it was normal ways.

But they say a Keto diet is good for weight loss, and Wild Boar is good protein hehe

He is on the testing during camp so clean for this bit.

StuTheGrouch

5,745 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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tuscaneer said:
Let's not pretend that that version of wlad was anything other than a distracted shell of the real wlad....the klitschko that fought aj...at 41 years old by the way... (fully focussed) would have cleaned furys clock...that's why he avoided the rematch..he lucked out against the worst version of wladimir. If fury had faced the wlad who fought haye he would have been starched... to call him a "useless tt" really is an absurd statement given all the elements In the equation.....he was never gonna rematch klitschko because he knew the inevitable result in a rematch
Not that you're a Klitschko fan-boy or anything...

tuscaneer

7,817 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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StuTheGrouch said:
tuscaneer said:
Let's not pretend that that version of wlad was anything other than a distracted shell of the real wlad....the klitschko that fought aj...at 41 years old by the way... (fully focussed) would have cleaned furys clock...that's why he avoided the rematch..he lucked out against the worst version of wladimir. If fury had faced the wlad who fought haye he would have been starched... to call him a "useless tt" really is an absurd statement given all the elements In the equation.....he was never gonna rematch klitschko because he knew the inevitable result in a rematch
Not that you're a Klitschko fan-boy or anything...
i will defend that man til my dying breathlaugh

tuscaneer

7,817 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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hyphen said:
I think with Fury, you also need to turn a blind eye to any 'cutting edge' ways that all this weight may have been lost so fast. As im suprised that it has happened so quick, perhaps it was normal ways.

But they say a Keto diet is good for weight loss, and Wild Boar is good protein hehe

He is on the testing during camp so clean for this bit.
10 stones in 1 year is mental!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/boxing/46352885

dirty boy

14,712 posts

210 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Some colleagues and I were talking about this the other day and it's not really that remarkable.

10 stone, is 140lbs. 1lbs of fat is 3500 calories.

So 140 x 3500 is 490,000 calories over 365 days, is a calorie deficit of 1342 per day.

Not that remarkable for a 6'9" man who's becomes physcially active again.

Plus he'd have been carrying a lot of water in that frame with the fat.




Just saying lol!

tuscaneer

7,817 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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dirty boy said:
Some colleagues and I were talking about this the other day and it's not really that remarkable.

10 stone, is 140lbs. 1lbs of fat is 3500 calories.

So 140 x 3500 is 490,000 calories over 365 days, is a calorie deficit of 1342 per day.

Not that remarkable for a 6'9" man who's becomes physcially active again.

Plus he'd have been carrying a lot of water in that frame with the fat.




Just saying lol!
piece of piss that!biggrin...i could be down to 3 stone 10lb by next december

dirty boy

14,712 posts

210 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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tuscaneer said:
dirty boy said:
Some colleagues and I were talking about this the other day and it's not really that remarkable.

10 stone, is 140lbs. 1lbs of fat is 3500 calories.

So 140 x 3500 is 490,000 calories over 365 days, is a calorie deficit of 1342 per day.

Not that remarkable for a 6'9" man who's becomes physcially active again.

Plus he'd have been carrying a lot of water in that frame with the fat.




Just saying lol!
piece of piss that!biggrin...i could be down to 3 stone 10lb by next december
In your dreams


  1. oifatty

tuscaneer

7,817 posts

226 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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dirty boy said:
tuscaneer said:
dirty boy said:
Some colleagues and I were talking about this the other day and it's not really that remarkable.

10 stone, is 140lbs. 1lbs of fat is 3500 calories.

So 140 x 3500 is 490,000 calories over 365 days, is a calorie deficit of 1342 per day.

Not that remarkable for a 6'9" man who's becomes physcially active again.

Plus he'd have been carrying a lot of water in that frame with the fat.




Just saying lol!
piece of piss that!biggrin...i could be down to 3 stone 10lb by next december
In your dreams


  1. oifatty
laugh
always fancied mixing it with all those mini flyweights from thailand and japan...it would be the one and only time i would ever enjoy a reach advantage!!

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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dirty boy said:
Some colleagues and I were talking about this the other day and it's not really that remarkable.

10 stone, is 140lbs. 1lbs of fat is 3500 calories.

So 140 x 3500 is 490,000 calories over 365 days, is a calorie deficit of 1342 per day.

Not that remarkable for a 6'9" man who's becomes physcially active again.

Plus he'd have been carrying a lot of water in that frame with the fat.




Just saying lol!
Apart from it being complete bks. He was bordering obese when he took the title in 2015. That was 265 odd. He looks like he gained about 50-60lb at his fattest and looking at him he was no 380lb! It's a made up story to make a few quid, sell a few papers and promote himself as this disciplined guru. He will get his ass handed to him in this fight.

LoonyTunes

3,362 posts

76 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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Burwood said:
dirty boy said:
Some colleagues and I were talking about this the other day and it's not really that remarkable.

10 stone, is 140lbs. 1lbs of fat is 3500 calories.

So 140 x 3500 is 490,000 calories over 365 days, is a calorie deficit of 1342 per day.

Not that remarkable for a 6'9" man who's becomes physcially active again.

Plus he'd have been carrying a lot of water in that frame with the fat.

Just saying lol!
Apart from it being complete bks. He was bordering obese when he took the title in 2015. That was 265 odd. He looks like he gained about 50-60lb at his fattest and looking at him he was no 380lb! It's a made up story to make a few quid, sell a few papers and promote himself as this disciplined guru. He will get his ass handed to him in this fight.
I do have to say that as somebody who has lost 8 stone myself (21.2 down to 12.12 at 6'1") the difference between 'Fat' Fury and 'Fit' Fury doesn't look like 10 stone to me. Unless there are official records to back this up anywhere I'd tend to agree that 10 stone is over-egging it.

I'd guestimate 7 stone max.

Burwood

18,709 posts

247 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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LoonyTunes said:
Burwood said:
dirty boy said:
Some colleagues and I were talking about this the other day and it's not really that remarkable.

10 stone, is 140lbs. 1lbs of fat is 3500 calories.

So 140 x 3500 is 490,000 calories over 365 days, is a calorie deficit of 1342 per day.

Not that remarkable for a 6'9" man who's becomes physcially active again.

Plus he'd have been carrying a lot of water in that frame with the fat.

Just saying lol!
Apart from it being complete bks. He was bordering obese when he took the title in 2015. That was 265 odd. He looks like he gained about 50-60lb at his fattest and looking at him he was no 380lb! It's a made up story to make a few quid, sell a few papers and promote himself as this disciplined guru. He will get his ass handed to him in this fight.
I do have to say that as somebody who has lost 8 stone myself (21.2 down to 12.12 at 6'1") the difference between 'Fat' Fury and 'Fit' Fury doesn't look like 10 stone to me. Unless there are official records to back this up anywhere I'd tend to agree that 10 stone is over-egging it.

I'd guestimate 7 stone max.
He's still fat and no there is nothing official. Just his say so.

Chad_Hugo

653 posts

179 months

Wednesday 28th November 2018
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The Wlad that faced Joshua would have beat any heavyweight in the world not named AJ on that night..

The Wlad who lost to Fury obviously did not want to fight, there as something seriously wrong with him mentally that night, we will probably never know the exact reasons for his performance but the difference between Wlad who faced Fury and Wlad who faced AJ is so staggering that it can't be attributed to Fury alone, (if at all!).

I would be happy if Fury wins, my point regarding the scoring was simply that I don't at all see Fury knocking him out, and I don't see him outpointing Wilder in the dramatic way he did Wlad, the fight will be far more competitive, Wilder will have a much, much higher punch output/be more aggressive and that alone will make it closer so I don't see how Fury will get a decision.

The same way I don't see ANY boxer getting a decision against AJ in the UK, might sound cynical but I honestly don't and thats coming from a big fan of AJ too.
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