The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
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Has anyone paid for the Khan fight on BT?
Not paying 20 bones to watch Amir get floored in 2 or 3 rounds. Also nothing on the undercard that really appeals to me.
II have Sky sports and BT sport and I sort of feel that this should not be on Box office. I know that it's sometimes not really under their control.
I remember when box office fights were real heavy duty affairs, Tyson, Lewis, Bruno etc.
Anyway I have a really good stream. If anyone's struggling drop me a PM.
Not paying 20 bones to watch Amir get floored in 2 or 3 rounds. Also nothing on the undercard that really appeals to me.
II have Sky sports and BT sport and I sort of feel that this should not be on Box office. I know that it's sometimes not really under their control.
I remember when box office fights were real heavy duty affairs, Tyson, Lewis, Bruno etc.
Anyway I have a really good stream. If anyone's struggling drop me a PM.
h, career is over.Khan claimed he was never outboxed, well he was now 
Poor Khan given speed but not much else.
He wasn't born intelligent enough, so he was unable to realise that a fighter with a weak chin and little power needs to quit being an offensive fighter and move to a career based on being boring.
He should have been watching Mayweather videos daily from a young age. But at 32 he was still fighting the same fight that always leads to his downfall.
But he has had a better career than most, made more money than many, has mainstream fans and is a TV celebrity so his life isn't bad at all.
Time to retire and take up media work.
Poor Khan given speed but not much else.
He wasn't born intelligent enough, so he was unable to realise that a fighter with a weak chin and little power needs to quit being an offensive fighter and move to a career based on being boring.
He should have been watching Mayweather videos daily from a young age. But at 32 he was still fighting the same fight that always leads to his downfall.
But he has had a better career than most, made more money than many, has mainstream fans and is a TV celebrity so his life isn't bad at all.
Time to retire and take up media work.
272BHP said:
Who knows what he felt? it was certainly a horrendous low blow.
But he was beaten to the punch all night and his trademark speed and sharpness appears to have left him - the fight was only going one way.
Time to either call it a day or take the Brook fight.
I've watched it this morning, although not in high quality. I pretty much agree with your summary. But he was beaten to the punch all night and his trademark speed and sharpness appears to have left him - the fight was only going one way.
Time to either call it a day or take the Brook fight.
He knew he wasn't the same fighter as from a few years ago, which is why he was rushing in. Khan has more than enough experience to know that isn't a tactic which is going to beat Crawford.
I expected Khan to be beaten fairly easily, but I thought he would take it to points. Business wise, that made the most sense for Khan.
My view at this moment is that he has used the low blow as a way out. He knew he wasn't going to win, and the next few rounds were going to be painful, so the low blow gave him a way of saving some of his reputation.
Kahn looked lethargic compared to Crawford who seemed to super comfortable at any range against Kahn
Although nobody knows how painful it was, the time taken to pull out was a big indicator to me that he quit. If he'd taken the 5 minutes, tried to walk it off etc then fine. He just saw his exit door and ran through it imo.
Kahn is not, never has and never will be world class - more like world glass
Although nobody knows how painful it was, the time taken to pull out was a big indicator to me that he quit. If he'd taken the 5 minutes, tried to walk it off etc then fine. He just saw his exit door and ran through it imo.
Kahn is not, never has and never will be world class - more like world glass
Khans problem is he could never face up to his level of talent. It's why the word 'deluded' is so often used about him.
As you say, he failed to take the full 5 mins before deciding to retire. However post fight interview he was "I never quit, I am a warrior".
But we all saw you Amir
No shame in it, you faced a superior opponent, just admit it and you will be much happier.
As you say, he failed to take the full 5 mins before deciding to retire. However post fight interview he was "I never quit, I am a warrior".
But we all saw you Amir
No shame in it, you faced a superior opponent, just admit it and you will be much happier.hyphen said:
Khans problem is he could never face up to his level of talent. It's why the word 'deluded' is so often used about him.
As you say, he failed to take the full 5 mins before deciding to retire. However post fight interview he was "I never quit, I am a warrior".
But we all saw you Amir No shame in it, you faced a superior opponent, just admit it and you will be much happier.
Plus despite all the froth he spouts about brook and it not being a big enough fight the truth is imo that he sees that fight as a career ender as brook will smash him.As you say, he failed to take the full 5 mins before deciding to retire. However post fight interview he was "I never quit, I am a warrior".
But we all saw you Amir
No shame in it, you faced a superior opponent, just admit it and you will be much happier.lord trumpton said:
hyphen said:
Khans problem is he could never face up to his level of talent. It's why the word 'deluded' is so often used about him.
As you say, he failed to take the full 5 mins before deciding to retire. However post fight interview he was "I never quit, I am a warrior".
But we all saw you Amir No shame in it, you faced a superior opponent, just admit it and you will be much happier.
Plus despite all the froth he spouts about brook and it not being a big enough fight the truth is imo that he sees that fight as a career ender as brook will smash him.As you say, he failed to take the full 5 mins before deciding to retire. However post fight interview he was "I never quit, I am a warrior".
But we all saw you Amir
No shame in it, you faced a superior opponent, just admit it and you will be much happier.Let's be fair, the knock down in the first was genuine and Crawford won all 6 rounds (maybe Khan edged one) but Khan has a broken hand and was punched in the dick which is what ended the fight. I'm not saying he would have won, I doubt he would but he wasn't over matched and deserved the shot given the career he's had, let's not forget Brook has also failed at the highest level.
I'd like to see the two of them matched for one final bow out, they're both at the end of long and hard careers so I wouldn't expect it to be the fight of the century and no doubt won't meet the hype.
I took a proper low blow once and I was still sick to the stomach 4 hours later. Fight on? sure, wrestle them to the floor and hang on for dear life, but dance around and out manoeuvre a pound-pound boxing contender? nonsense.
Remember Crawford's punch wasn't a little range finder that ventured downstairs. it was a power punch deep to the nether regions.
Terrible way to end a fight though especially for the mugs like me who forked up £20
Remember Crawford's punch wasn't a little range finder that ventured downstairs. it was a power punch deep to the nether regions.
Terrible way to end a fight though especially for the mugs like me who forked up £20
How good is Rivas?
Looking at his pro history, last fight was against Jennings who appears past his best as his best performances were years ago, yet match reports say that it was a dull affair with Rivas's trainer having the beg him to be agressive. http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/25798117/o...
And previous to that was a boxing fight with a UFC fighter.
Looking at his pro history, last fight was against Jennings who appears past his best as his best performances were years ago, yet match reports say that it was a dull affair with Rivas's trainer having the beg him to be agressive. http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/_/id/25798117/o...
And previous to that was a boxing fight with a UFC fighter.
theboyfold said:
I feel sorry for Whyte, he really has been frozen out by all the BS politics in the heavyweight division
He turned down an offer to fight AJ for his titles. In a stadium event.If he was the lineal champ, or the WBC title holder than I could understand him wanting more cash. But he is Whyte, who has previously lost to AJ.
Personally I think he has made his own bed, he could have fought AJ April 13th just gone, at Wembley.
But money counted more for someone with no world title to his name. Should have taken the fight and thought about the riches after, rather than the immediate purse (double what he got against Chisora...).
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 21st April 21:36
hyphen said:
He turned down an offer to fight AJ for his titles. In a stadium event.
If he was the lineal champ, or the WBC title holder than I could understand him wanting more cash. But he is Whyte, who has previously lost to AJ.
Personally I think he has made his own bed, he could have fought AJ April 13th just gone, at Wembley.
But money counted more for someone with no world title to his name. Should have taken the fight and thought about the riches after, rather than the immediate purse (double what he got against Chisora...).
He got 5m for Chisora, no? 10m seems over the odds but if he did turn that down, I have little sympathy for himIf he was the lineal champ, or the WBC title holder than I could understand him wanting more cash. But he is Whyte, who has previously lost to AJ.
Personally I think he has made his own bed, he could have fought AJ April 13th just gone, at Wembley.
But money counted more for someone with no world title to his name. Should have taken the fight and thought about the riches after, rather than the immediate purse (double what he got against Chisora...).
Edited by hyphen on Sunday 21st April 21:36
MrJuice said:
He got 5m for Chisora, no? 10m seems over the odds but if he did turn that down, I have little sympathy for him
Its what AJ said, video here: https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1100071007958...Edited by hyphen on Monday 22 April 08:57
hyphen said:
How good is Rivas?
I have just watched Rivas vs Jennings. I also watched the amateur bout when he beat Pulev.My summary is that he is not a great boxer. He has a come-forward style, rather like Chisora in some ways. And he is happy to throw punches, but he lacks technique and finesse which means most miss or are easily blocked.
He has a stocky physique and seems strong. But his head movement is poor. Would be target practise for someone like Joshua who would punch right through him.
Whilst he did beat Pulev as an amateur, he was rather fortunate. He got well ahead in the first round, mainly due to a Pulev stumble, and he then just tried to maintain his lead, often using spoiling/holding in the last round in particular. Pulev looked the better boxer to me despite losing over the 4 rounds.
I don't think Whyte vs Rivas it is a great PPV match up and I wonder why Whyte has picked him as an opponent. If he loses to a lucky punch from Rivas, he loses his status to someone very few people will recognise. Whereas if he wins, he just does what people expect. And the financial rewards are unlikely to be amazing, as the PPV buys will be low as it doesn't seem on paper a competitive matchup.
Whyte vs Povetkin would have been a much better PPV event imo.
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