The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

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EddieSteadyGo

11,972 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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hyphen said:
Would be interesting if TalkSport or another professional journalist asks Joshua about Whyte's accusation he is taking advantage of TUEs....

What's the betting no one dares ask him....

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

164 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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I’m a Whyte fan and I know he is long overdue a shot at the WBC title, but even I’m struggling to justify Rivas fight as a PPV...maybe if Hearn never pissed him around in the first place we wouldn’t be witnessing this sorry state of affairs.

DocJock

8,357 posts

241 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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Aye, EH has a lot to do with the current mess.

I seem to recall Whyte claiming that when he was offered the fight, with the standard rematch clause, if he was the champion, AJ would still receive a 60% share of the purse.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

164 months

Tuesday 23rd April 2019
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DocJock said:
Aye, EH has a lot to do with the current mess.

I seem to recall Whyte claiming that when he was offered the fight, with the standard rematch clause, if he was the champion, AJ would still receive a 60% share of the purse.
I could be wrong but I believe Whyte was happy about the deal generally but it was the rematch clause that killed the deal.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Looks like Joshua won't be facing Ortiz..

Ortiz's manager said:
It’s a no go for June 1 ..Sorry guys we were told to stay as quiet as possible and play possum until fight had been made because every-time someone called Luis out it would be a gimmick to promote them self but it still didn’t work .. we just received news from promoter that it’s a no go and it was all a gimmick and Hearns low ball offers will not be accepted and no contract even ever got sent so sorry to all the loyal fans .. Luis really wanted this title shot ...

tuscaneer

7,766 posts

226 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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well...i hope my sneaky feeling was right....andy ruiz jr seems to now be front runner. better fight than miller if i'm honest. he has come on leaps and bounds since that razor tight fight against parker a few years back....for those that didn't watch it check out how he dismantled dimitrenko on saturday night on the garcia undercard(another great fight which doesn't seem to have caused much comment in this thread)...

he could cause joshua a few problems with his incredible hand speed and head movement

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Took a quick look at his wiki. It will be hard for anyone at 6'2" and 74" reach to beat AJ.

He is shorter and less reach than Ortiz. Yes he battered Dimitrenko, but D had also lost his prior fight against Jennings.

He is younger than Ortiz (who isn't hehe) but would I be right in saying it is an easier fight than Ortiz?

Will this get anyone subscribing to Dazn, or waking up to watch on Sky ppv. Joshua gets his £25m though.

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tuscaneer

7,766 posts

226 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Honestly, I think hes underrated because hes a fat bd. I've been keeping an eye on him for a while and he's good at closing distance and getting inside long jabs... I'm not saying he's povetkin but solves the problems in front of him in a ai.ilar fashion... fast hands and perpetual head movement... I would say at this point he would beat both Miller and ortiz...hope he gets the shot because he will have his moments...

andburg

7,295 posts

170 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Ortiz out citing lowball offer...

at his age, having lost to wilder and fought 3 low key fights is he really in a position to demand? whatever he gets would probably top his last 3 fights together!




CAH706

1,971 posts

165 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Depends how low the lowball offer was smile

I can't remember a time when the heavyweight champion has struggled to get a half decent opponent over such a long period. Having Wilder and now Fury in the mix isn't helping but it's either 1) he's so good nobody will have a go or 2) they are too greedy with the offers.

Shane really add the division would be interesting* if they actually made the fights

  • And to qualify I think there are good match-ups to made rather than great fighters. I still think the quality is low.

andburg

7,295 posts

170 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Based o na quick google search Miller was reportedly taking $4.8m, Ortiz reportedly only got $500,000 for the wilder fight so even a lowball compared to Miller would top his career earnings.

lets face it, Ortiz loses and its game over at the top level, he needs a payday that reflects that. He could well be in a similar position to Miller on PED's and just not be in a safe position to commit to anything.

You can guarantee there will be heavy testing for whoever does get the fight.

pincher

8,570 posts

218 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Is anyone halfway decent going to be ready to fight in 4 weeks, or is it a case of everyone is really in a full time camp and they just need tuning up for the big day?

I thought fighters basically locked themselves away for 8-12 weeks before a big title fight?

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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pincher said:
Is anyone halfway decent going to be ready to fight in 4 weeks, or is it a case of everyone is really in a full time camp and they just need tuning up for the big day?

I thought fighters basically locked themselves away for 8-12 weeks before a big title fight?
Yes, but if money was right they would.

6 weeks to go so could be worse, but problem is that promoters often leave an offer to the last minute intentionaly so the opponent is least prepared as they can be.

Ortiz last fought last month, and Ruiz only last week so they would be in decent shape already. Someone who hasn't fought a while would need all the undetectable ped's they could get their hands on hehe

theboyfold

10,921 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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Looks like Dubois and Joyce has been confirmed

https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/4/24/18514262/joe...

272BHP

5,092 posts

237 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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theboyfold said:
Looks like Dubois and Joyce has been confirmed

https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/4/24/18514262/joe...
Now that is a fight to look forward to!

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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272BHP said:
theboyfold said:
Looks like Dubois and Joyce has been confirmed

https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/4/24/18514262/joe...
Now that is a fight to look forward to!
I've said it before but I think Dubois wins quite easily... But we'll see...

theboyfold

10,921 posts

227 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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FredClogs said:
272BHP said:
theboyfold said:
Looks like Dubois and Joyce has been confirmed

https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/4/24/18514262/joe...
Now that is a fight to look forward to!
I've said it before but I think Dubois wins quite easily... But we'll see...
Me too, I think Joyce gets hit too easily and I think a clean shot or two from Dubois and it could be lights out. However, it should be a good one.

Daniel1

2,931 posts

199 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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I've just seen that GGG has left Abel Sanchez.

EddieSteadyGo

11,972 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th April 2019
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theboyfold said:
FredClogs said:
272BHP said:
theboyfold said:
Looks like Dubois and Joyce has been confirmed

https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/4/24/18514262/joe...
Now that is a fight to look forward to!
I've said it before but I think Dubois wins quite easily... But we'll see...
Me too, I think Joyce gets hit too easily and I think a clean shot or two from Dubois and it could be lights out. However, it should be a good one.
This fight doesn't make sense to me. Joyce fights Stiverne and so gets a great ranking with the WBA. Why would he want to fight a prospect like Dubois?

For a British title fight, the money can't be that great. If Joyce loses, he suddenly moves down to the level fighting Dave Allen or David Price. If he wins, he doesn't really do much for his prospects of getting a big payday by fighting one the big names.

If I were him, I'd be keeping my powder dry and waiting for a much bigger opportunity to arise. So I must be missing something, but I can't see it happening.

EddieSteadyGo

11,972 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th April 2019
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Daniel1 said:
I've just seen that GGG has left Abel Sanchez.
Oh dear. From what Abel is saying, it is a dispute about money which led to the split. Abel saying the offer from GGG was insulting....
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