The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
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FredClogs said:
gooner1 said:
Deadwood V Fat Lumberjack . I watched it for free and still feel cheated.
Did you hang on to watch the savannah marshal fight? She's a real talent but I reckon my nan would have beaten her opponnent (and she's been dead 16 years) without knowing what power that finishing body shot had.
Nik Gnashers said:
Shambolic.
Hughie was wide open, lazy looping shots, off balance. Norrad was absolute shyte, only threw 12 shots in the first round, and landed 2. Hughie warned in the first round for hitting low, and also hitting to the back of the head.
So, second round and more of the same, then Hughie hits to the back of the head again and puts him down. Bloke takes one knee by the count of 3, looks fine, gets up exactly as ref counts from 8 to 9, and then ref waves fight off wtf ?
If anything Hughie should have been disqualified, but at least the bloke should have been allowed to fight on, and Hughie given another final warning.
Hughie isn't even the best Domestic heavyweight, let alone european, so there is zero chance of him fighting at world level.
Looking to the 'crowd' (I use that term loosely) it was pathetic. Seen more people round the neighbours BBQ's.
Well said. I'd like to see him fed to Dubios or GormanHughie was wide open, lazy looping shots, off balance. Norrad was absolute shyte, only threw 12 shots in the first round, and landed 2. Hughie warned in the first round for hitting low, and also hitting to the back of the head.
So, second round and more of the same, then Hughie hits to the back of the head again and puts him down. Bloke takes one knee by the count of 3, looks fine, gets up exactly as ref counts from 8 to 9, and then ref waves fight off wtf ?
If anything Hughie should have been disqualified, but at least the bloke should have been allowed to fight on, and Hughie given another final warning.
Hughie isn't even the best Domestic heavyweight, let alone european, so there is zero chance of him fighting at world level.
Looking to the 'crowd' (I use that term loosely) it was pathetic. Seen more people round the neighbours BBQ's.
biggbn said:
If he can stay the distance with Parker and pulev, neither of them will overly trouble him.
I suspect Dubois is a cut above the current crop of fledglings and suspect his power is enough to stop anyone. I doubt Gorman will fight any of the Fury clan, aren't they all related? Davos123 said:
Parker is s
te. Dubois needs more experience but he'll definitely end up a much better boxer and I'd back him to stop Parker if they fought tomorrow.
Interesting. I don't rate Parker as an elite fighter, but he went distance with aj and survived a war with whyte. I think he is still a wee bit above dubois, although he has reached his potential and dubois star is still ascending te. Dubois needs more experience but he'll definitely end up a much better boxer and I'd back him to stop Parker if they fought tomorrow.biggbn said:
Davos123 said:
Parker is ste. Dubois needs more experience but he'll definitely end up a much better boxer and I'd back him to stop Parker if they fought tomorrow.
Interesting. I don't rate Parker as an elite fighter, but he went distance with aj and survived a war with whyte. I think he is still a wee bit above dubois, although he has reached his potential and dubois star is still ascending te. Dubois needs more experience but he'll definitely end up a much better boxer and I'd back him to stop Parker if they fought tomorrow.He wasn't impressive when he went the distance with AJ, I thought AJ just stayed behind the jab and never looked in any trouble (the ref didn't help though). Had Parker forced a bit of a scrap he'd have probably been KO'd. It almost felt as if AJ wanted to go the distance to prove to himself he could win a fight like that when he went onto bigger fighters.
He did survive against Whyte but he also lost and got knocked down once (I won't count the headbutt) - again he showed a complete lack of ringcraft in that fight - got the knockdown he needed in the 12th because he hadn't boxed smart but it didn't stick.
I think Dubois beats anybody at the moment that isn't either a very smart boxer or a pretty smart one with massive knockout power. It's hard to know though until he's had a couple of bigger fights. I just think against Parker he'd take the fight to him and he wouldn't be able to live with it.
Davos123 said:
I deleted my post because I thought it was a pretty glib take on things on review but now you've replied I'll clarify.
He wasn't impressive when he went the distance with AJ, I thought AJ just stayed behind the jab and never looked in any trouble (the ref didn't help though). Had Parker forced a bit of a scrap he'd have probably been KO'd. It almost felt as if AJ wanted to go the distance to prove to himself he could win a fight like that when he went onto bigger fighters.
He did survive against Whyte but he also lost and got knocked down once (I won't count the headbutt) - again he showed a complete lack of ringcraft in that fight - got the knockdown he needed in the 12th because he hadn't boxed smart but it didn't stick.
I think Dubois beats anybody at the moment that isn't either a very smart boxer or a pretty smart one with massive knockout power. It's hard to know though until he's had a couple of bigger fights. I just think against Parker he'd take the fight to him and he wouldn't be able to live with it.
I thought ref was atrocious in aj fight, every time a fight threatened to break out he stopped it!! Dubois looked worryingly easy to hit in his last outing. Kid needs time to fulfil that huge potential. From the second tier I'd like to see chisora v Parker, Joyce v Pryce (if Pryce comes through next fight!!), dubois v gorman. He wasn't impressive when he went the distance with AJ, I thought AJ just stayed behind the jab and never looked in any trouble (the ref didn't help though). Had Parker forced a bit of a scrap he'd have probably been KO'd. It almost felt as if AJ wanted to go the distance to prove to himself he could win a fight like that when he went onto bigger fighters.
He did survive against Whyte but he also lost and got knocked down once (I won't count the headbutt) - again he showed a complete lack of ringcraft in that fight - got the knockdown he needed in the 12th because he hadn't boxed smart but it didn't stick.
I think Dubois beats anybody at the moment that isn't either a very smart boxer or a pretty smart one with massive knockout power. It's hard to know though until he's had a couple of bigger fights. I just think against Parker he'd take the fight to him and he wouldn't be able to live with it.
hyphen said:
Parker just turned up and collected a paycheck against AJ.
Yes ref was crap, but Parker was quite happy with it.
Agree to disagree, he clearly had a tactic of getting inside aj and making it an inside fight, which the referee totally did not allow. Either way, he went twelve which not many doYes ref was crap, but Parker was quite happy with it.
No idea how it will go.
Thurman is intelligent and capable,taller and younger but punch resistance is low and not had enough fights post layoff.
Don't mind who wins this one, as either taking on Spence and Crawford would be exciting.
I don't think Thurman is being confident, he is showing confidence to both sell the fight and also not to appear weak to his opponent.
Thurman is intelligent and capable,taller and younger but punch resistance is low and not had enough fights post layoff.
Don't mind who wins this one, as either taking on Spence and Crawford would be exciting.
I don't think Thurman is being confident, he is showing confidence to both sell the fight and also not to appear weak to his opponent.
Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 29th May 06:12
wilder/ortiz 2 has been announced ...... meh......
i think andy ruiz will do a lot better on saturday than everyone thinks you know... everyone is sleeping on this guy... the general consensus seems to be "nah, fat bloke" but this guy has got proper quick hands and puts combos together well.... cracks a decent bit of pop too... i'm not saying he's winning but i expect him to gice joshua some puzzles to solve..
manny at 40 still beats thurman for me
i think andy ruiz will do a lot better on saturday than everyone thinks you know... everyone is sleeping on this guy... the general consensus seems to be "nah, fat bloke" but this guy has got proper quick hands and puts combos together well.... cracks a decent bit of pop too... i'm not saying he's winning but i expect him to gice joshua some puzzles to solve..
manny at 40 still beats thurman for me
tuscaneer said:
wilder/ortiz 2 has been announced ...... meh......
Why meh? Ortiz came to win last time, and could have had him. A rematch is deserved? And good of Wilder to have the balls to do this.tuscaneer said:
i think andy ruiz will do a lot better on saturday than everyone thinks you know
He can box but can he move? the height and reach of AJ is too much of an advantage against a non athletic opponent.
Brilliant. So Fury has been offered what he wanted, hope he doesn't weasel out now.hyphen said:
tuscaneer said:
wilder/ortiz 2 has been announced ...... meh......
Why meh? Ortiz came to win last time, and could have had him. A rematch is deserved? And good of Wilder to have the balls to do this.
He also seems to be able to soak up punishment whilst waiting for one of his long, looping odd-but-catastrophic big swings to land.
hyphen said:
tuscaneer said:
wilder/ortiz 2 has been announced ...... meh......
Why meh? Ortiz came to win last time, and could have had him. A rematch is deserved? And good of Wilder to have the balls to do this.tuscaneer said:
i think andy ruiz will do a lot better on saturday than everyone thinks you know
He can box but can he move? the height and reach of AJ is too much of an advantage against a non athletic opponent.i think it's fair to say ruiz has got good lateral movement and covers ground quickly...his chubby appearance belies his actual athletic ability, he's proved he has good whiskers and can go the full 12. however, it's fair to say that the klitschko fight made joshua a more cautious , considered fighter (an improvement for me, even if less exciting to the casual fan) with exceptionally heavy hands. if he keeps it tight and long behind ram rod jabs ruiz is in for a hard night, but with pockets of success (especially early on) if joshua doesn't keep to a disciplined game plan at all times.
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