The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

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lord trumpton

7,405 posts

126 months

Sunday 8th September 2019
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Davos123 said:
pincher said:
Well, he certainly looks different.....


Top right and bottom left where he has the same stance - his muscle mass looks pretty much identical to me.
He's full of the gear in that top left pic - apart from his immense bulk he face is all puffy (oedema from the gear)

How these guys get away with it is amazing really. I know they are all at it but still, its a piss take how easily the supposedly strict testing routines are circumvented.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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coolchris said:
I see that Nigel Benn is making a comeback at 55.Apparently his son says the contracts are signed and it's a former WBC champ who last boxed only a couple of years ago as Benn put it he's looking for closure.Sadly another ex fighter trying to recapture past glories ffs benn was totally shot in 96/97 when he boxed Collins and the fire had gone out then.

Lots of videos of Benn still looking tasty on the pads etc he has obviously kept himself in good nick since retirement but one thing looking good on the pads different getting in there and having the tools still to be effective at the rope old age of 55 father time even caught up with Hopkins and he had always kept active.Benn was a legend in British boxing but I sadly think it's a case of seeing his son boxing and his mind tricking him in training thinking I can still do this into getting back between the ropes.
Why is it that a lot of boxers regardless of how good they were can’t seem to ‘cope’ with retirement? I suppose when you’ve been boxing all your life the thought of hanging up your gloves can seem daunting. It’s a bit tragic and sad to see watching Father Time catch up with a great boxer like Hopkins which you’ve mentioned.

EddieSteadyGo

11,950 posts

203 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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Amirhussain said:
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Why is it that a lot of boxers regardless of how good they were can’t seem to ‘cope’ with retirement?
I assume they miss some combination of the adulation, the fame, the adrenalin and the money. You see a similar problem sometimes with footballers.

The other issue relates to one's self-image. If you have achieved success through a series of skills - that can define how you see yourself. If those skills ebb away with age, it can lead to depression, as you can perceive yourself as no longer being as important as you once were. Hence the desire to prove yourself again, to try and battle mental demons.

At least that's my view smile

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Monday 9th September 2019
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Andre ward on Rogan podcast.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Amirhussain said:
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Why is it that a lot of boxers regardless of how good they were can’t seem to ‘cope’ with retirement?
I assume they miss some combination of the adulation, the fame, the adrenalin and the money. You see a similar problem sometimes with footballers.

The other issue relates to one's self-image. If you have achieved success through a series of skills - that can define how you see yourself. If those skills ebb away with age, it can lead to depression, as you can perceive yourself as no longer being as important as you once were. Hence the desire to prove yourself again, to try and battle mental demons.

At least that's my view smile
Yeah I’d agree with that. Still rather see them in the ring than bloody I’m a celebrity or Big Brother laugh

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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I see Dereck Chisora was on his best behaviour!

g4ry13

16,995 posts

255 months

Tuesday 10th September 2019
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In fairness, he does have a point!

Not sure how he didn't know before the press conference and probably not the best place to negotiate.

Edited by g4ry13 on Tuesday 10th September 12:21

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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272BHP

5,080 posts

236 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Canelo has balls of steel doesn't he?

The guys first 33 pro fights were at Welterweight and he is now fighting at light heavy. And not just any light heavy but Krusher Kovalev!

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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272BHP said:
Canelo has balls of steel doesn't he?

The guys first 33 pro fights were at Welterweight and he is now fighting at light heavy. And not just any light heavy but Krusher Kovalev!
Nov 2nd seems very quick after the Yarde fight for Kovalev, could be a plus for him, maybe not?

The assumption is Kovalev is very susceptible to body punching, which Canelo will exploit. I don't really understand Canelos desire to do this, but if he could genuine world title at all weights from welter to light heavy he has to be considered one of the Goats. I wonder if he beats Kovalev whether he'll stay and try his luck with one of the other, killers at light heavy? Presumably not. Hopefully back down to take on Calum Smith.


hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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FredClogs said:
I don't really understand Canelos desire to do this,
As he was caught out as a druggie, he has more to prove now.

They clearly feel Kovalev is past his best and it's an opportunity.

272BHP

5,080 posts

236 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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FredClogs said:
Nov 2nd seems very quick after the Yarde fight for Kovalev, could be a plus for him, maybe not?

The assumption is Kovalev is very susceptible to body punching, which Canelo will exploit. I don't really understand Canelos desire to do this, but if he could genuine world title at all weights from welter to light heavy he has to be considered one of the Goats. I wonder if he beats Kovalev whether he'll stay and try his luck with one of the other, killers at light heavy? Presumably not. Hopefully back down to take on Calum Smith.
Nah, at this rate he will probably move up to Cruiser!

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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FredClogs said:
I don't really understand Canelos desire to do this, but if he could genuine world title at all weights from welter to light heavy he has to be considered one of the Goats.
You've answered your own question. I don't think Canelo gives much of a st other than proving he's the best fighter in the world. Winning this fight will go a long way to proving that, he'll be the P4P champ.

tuscaneer

7,766 posts

225 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Keep an eye out for the debilitating rehydration clauses with hefty fines/fight cancelling implications for kovalev.

272BHP

5,080 posts

236 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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tuscaneer said:
Keep an eye out for the debilitating rehydration clauses with hefty fines/fight cancelling implications for kovalev.
I think in this case it would be fair enough.

DocJock

8,357 posts

240 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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I think they should be standard across the board.

The UFC claim to follow the CSAC guidelines of no more than 10% increase between weigh-in and fight. There was a recent card where 13 of 23 fighters exceeded that with no sanction. One guy put on 17.7% and Poalo Costa put on 27lbs!


lordFraud

1 posts

55 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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decent 1st fight on the bt card

tescorank

1,996 posts

231 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Now, fury the mexican is blooded over the right eye, huge gash and rattled, winning on rounds but will let you watch.

Edited by tescorank on Sunday 15th September 05:51

Mojooo

12,734 posts

180 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Wallin has tanked, which is a shame for him as if he doesn't win he might regret not being fitter.

Daniel1

2,931 posts

198 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Mojooo said:
Wallin has tanked, which is a shame for him as if he doesn't win he might regret not being fitter.
It's only his 2nd 12 round fight
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