The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
Discussion
Although I can see both fighters having the ability to win, I only see fury being able to accept defeat.
I imagine he will talk up how great he is and how wilder was on another level, as well as only wilder could ever beat him.
Ultimately I feel hes happy to walk away with his richly deserved millions.
Wilder would be gutted to lose, and that's the difference, he wants it more.
I imagine he will talk up how great he is and how wilder was on another level, as well as only wilder could ever beat him.
Ultimately I feel hes happy to walk away with his richly deserved millions.
Wilder would be gutted to lose, and that's the difference, he wants it more.
Ridiculous that people are writing Fury off with phrases like "I just can't see him winning". Really? I get there's a good chance of Wilder winning but they've fought before and Fury won and got robbed. It's crazy to say you can't see him winning now, a year on without the ring rust and in better shape. Wilder hasn't become a much better fight in that time, people acting like it's a foregone conclusion he'll knock out Fury inside 6 rounds are the worst kind of casuals.
mikebradford said:
Although I can see both fighters having the ability to win, I only see fury being able to accept defeat.
I imagine he will talk up how great he is and how wilder was on another level, as well as only wilder could ever beat him.
Ultimately I feel hes happy to walk away with his richly deserved millions.
Wilder would be gutted to lose, and that's the difference, he wants it more.
Regardless of his (TF's) public persona I kind of agree with this.I imagine he will talk up how great he is and how wilder was on another level, as well as only wilder could ever beat him.
Ultimately I feel hes happy to walk away with his richly deserved millions.
Wilder would be gutted to lose, and that's the difference, he wants it more.
Having said that, he can take a KO punch as good as anyone I've ever seen and despite appearances, know's how to really box. Those two attributes mean he can really grind out opponents.
I still wonder if the fix will be in for the 3rd match "best of three" so I'll stick with a Wilder win.
Davos123 said:
Ridiculous that people are writing Fury off with phrases like "I just can't see him winning". Really? I get there's a good chance of Wilder winning but they've fought before and Fury won and got robbed. It's crazy to say you can't see him winning now, a year on without the ring rust and in better shape. Wilder hasn't become a much better fight in that time, people acting like it's a foregone conclusion he'll knock out Fury inside 6 rounds are the worst kind of casuals.
Totally agree, I'm not going to bet on this because I do think Wilder has singular knock out power late into the fight, but I really struggle to see why Fury isn't the overwhelming favourite. That said the cut is a concern. Plenty of professional fighters, trainers, & promoters are saying Fury wins.
He (Fury) seems to have had a good camp, with a lot of sparring, he looks much fitter than last time, and he seems to have his mind in the right place.
Last time he was ring rusty, unfit, fat, and still got a draw (and many said he won).
Wilder can't do anything different.
I'm putting a tenner on Fury.
He (Fury) seems to have had a good camp, with a lot of sparring, he looks much fitter than last time, and he seems to have his mind in the right place.
Last time he was ring rusty, unfit, fat, and still got a draw (and many said he won).
Wilder can't do anything different.
I'm putting a tenner on Fury.
Nik Gnashers said:
Plenty of professional fighters, trainers, & promoters are saying Fury wins.
He (Fury) seems to have had a good camp, with a lot of sparring, he looks much fitter than last time, and he seems to have his mind in the right place.
Last time he was ring rusty, unfit, fat, and still got a draw (and many said he won).
Wilder can't do anything different.
I'm putting a tenner on Fury.
I dont normally listen to the rubbish WWE promo before these fights but do pick up on it. Almost every pundit involved in the industry has picked Wilder by KO. He (Fury) seems to have had a good camp, with a lot of sparring, he looks much fitter than last time, and he seems to have his mind in the right place.
Last time he was ring rusty, unfit, fat, and still got a draw (and many said he won).
Wilder can't do anything different.
I'm putting a tenner on Fury.
Rumours are spreading of a bad camp for Fury, including an ankle injury and his trainer saying ni one is 100% for a fight, an evasive answer.
Wilder also looked terrible in their first fight. Huge telegraphed punches etc. He looked better against ortiz 2 and has looked better in previous fights. Hes no boxer but hes not as bad as many have made out. I think Fury is cleverer in the fact that he analyses his opponents and actually changes his game based on the opponent. Will Tyson Fury turn up or will it be that guy who fought Wallin? Will his cut open up as he will get jabbed.
I suspect wilder will behave like he did with ortiz 2. Take time, lose rounds, trying to set up the straight 1-2. F*ck knows what Fury will do. His trainer said they train for the KO to take it away from the judges but I just cant see it, especially within 2 rounds, maybe by attrition later on. But they also know the longer they stay in there the more chance there is for a lucky punch getting through, so maybe they will try to rough Wilder up before he settles in.
It's a very interesting fight but I would stick to a Wilder KO.
Jonnny said:
Yep, looking forward to this!
Shame they didn't have a mic between the fighters.. I'd love to have heard what was being said.
Strange having 3 American judges, and American ref no?
3 fantastic judges with countless title fights on their resume and zero controversial cards. Similarly a great ref. I think people get too caught up with nationalities, a British judge scored the first a draw. The biggest problem with judges is that they are loyal to the promotors who pay them and this is a co-promo unlike the first fight. I don't see Fury getting fShame they didn't have a mic between the fighters.. I'd love to have heard what was being said.
Strange having 3 American judges, and American ref no?
ked over by the judges.I agreed with David Hayes comments during weigh in yesterday, that Fury's pad work looked a bit odd.
Changing trainers and adopting a new style normally needs a few practice fights, wonder if Tyson will actually be fighting a different fight or revert back to normal.
exciting night coming up ( still suspect all agreed for the trilogy mind).
Changing trainers and adopting a new style normally needs a few practice fights, wonder if Tyson will actually be fighting a different fight or revert back to normal.
exciting night coming up ( still suspect all agreed for the trilogy mind).hyphen said:
Gadgetmac said:
Davos123 said:
ThisInJapanese said:
dirty boy said:
Outbox him? That's certainly something is capable of and does seem to rise to occassions in terms of performance.
I can't see a points victory though. He can't evade him for that long and it's a totally US based judge panel. The judges will be more even-handed this time, it's a co-promotion, Fury's fighting for Top Rank now and the judges are loyal to the people paying them, the promoter, not nationality biased.
Wilder isn't your usual punching type, he isn't heavy built and slow, like Wlad was, or AJ was till recently.
Wilder is very athletic and can move with speed. If Wilder is willing to take eat some jabs to give a punch then how will Fury not take a few hits?
Wilder can't box. Fury has to keep him at a distance eating jabs. Fury has seen Wilders best shots now so has the experience to deal with it better this time.
All IMHO.
What’s the strategy to staying up until 4am. I really want to see this one live.
Not sure if anyone is injured or not, but otherwise it’s so close to call for me. If Fury can keep him at length with his jab, Wilder could punch himself out, especially now being a bit heavier again. But, it’s also true Fury will have to concentrate every minute of every round due to the enormous bombs Wilder throws.
I’m going by go with a Wilder win, based upon his weight this time and he’ll know what Tyson is about. They were both very respectful last time, just cannot see Wilder not looking for a KO (given he holds the belts and will generate huge sums of cash for part 3 if it doesn’t work out) and Fury having to dodge one too many bullet. He must have some concerns on his eye and Wilder will target that for sure. The margins are so small but maybe that’s enough?
If Fury wins, I’ll be delighted.
Not sure if anyone is injured or not, but otherwise it’s so close to call for me. If Fury can keep him at length with his jab, Wilder could punch himself out, especially now being a bit heavier again. But, it’s also true Fury will have to concentrate every minute of every round due to the enormous bombs Wilder throws.
I’m going by go with a Wilder win, based upon his weight this time and he’ll know what Tyson is about. They were both very respectful last time, just cannot see Wilder not looking for a KO (given he holds the belts and will generate huge sums of cash for part 3 if it doesn’t work out) and Fury having to dodge one too many bullet. He must have some concerns on his eye and Wilder will target that for sure. The margins are so small but maybe that’s enough?
If Fury wins, I’ll be delighted.
I'm definitely favouring Fury, the boxer tends to do better in rematches - what can Wilder have learned from the first fight that will help him compared to Fury?
I think Fury's prep makes sense. He wants to fight on the inside more because it'll damage and tire Wilder and it's also a good defence against that right hand which is most dangerous at range.
I think Fury's prep makes sense. He wants to fight on the inside more because it'll damage and tire Wilder and it's also a good defence against that right hand which is most dangerous at range.
Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff