The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
Discussion
Gameface said:
All this talk of Klitschko...
Where's Tusc?
Ayup tigerWhere's Tusc?
....was away for the weekend so haven't been at tiniternet a lot... got up sunday morning to watch it on youtube...very impressive performance from fury and I must admit while I've never quite forgiven him for denying klitschko the rematch and the failed drug tests I have warmed to him since the first wilder fight... this second fight was a flawlessly executed game plan...tying him up, fainting the jab while stepping left to then launch a back hand straight cum hook was I spied and every time he did it wilder fell for the feint and didn't see furys movement forward/left that put his back hand in range to land from seemingly being out of distance...I think wilder had his eardrum popped early.... I've had it myself and apart from being horrible and feeling like a knitting needle being shoved down your ear it makes you move like you're pissed... you cant feel your legs on the floor properly and you feel sort of sick to the point you cant throw properly, never mind move out of danger...
Great result.... even though everyone wants the Joshua fight I think the trilogy fight WILL happen you know...I suspect wilder will come out over the next few days blaming a freak eardrum popping for his poor showing and then the circus will begin again...
Gameface said:
tuscaneer said:
I suspect wilder will come out over the next few days blaming a freak eardrum popping for his poor showing and then the circus will begin again...
I've said the same in conversation with friends.Wilder wasn't 'exposed' by Fury at all. Everybody knew what Wilder was all about it's just that in Fury he came up against somebody able to stop his right fist being triggered. Ortiz and the rest knew what Wilder had and would have done everything they could to nullify it but just weren't up to the job.
On another note, AJ is far superior to Wilder and I believe would knock him out not just a TKO either. When and if AJ and Fury get in ring I believe it's a 50/50 fight and if I had to bet I'd bet on AJ.
Despite his knock out percentage Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember. He just looks clueless when anybody puts the pressure on and he gets tagged. Frankly I'm astonished he reigned as long as he did with his one-trick.
On another note, AJ is far superior to Wilder and I believe would knock him out not just a TKO either. When and if AJ and Fury get in ring I believe it's a 50/50 fight and if I had to bet I'd bet on AJ.
Despite his knock out percentage Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember. He just looks clueless when anybody puts the pressure on and he gets tagged. Frankly I'm astonished he reigned as long as he did with his one-trick.
Ayahuasca said:
What is the reason for all the different belts? Are some better than others, and will there ever be a single belt to rule them all?
It's a load of money making b
ks pal... back in the 50s there were 8 divisions and 8 world champions... now there are 17 divisions and 76 world champions...There is a new board called "the transnational boxing rankings board" who are ranking the top fighters in every division... they are trying to do what the ring have done but with far more kudos as its created and voted for by the luminaries of the boxing world ...NOT FOR PROFIT.... I really hope they succeed in banishing all these charlatans and money grubbers from ruining our sport
Silkyskills said:
Wilder wasn't 'exposed' by Fury at all. Everybody knew what Wilder was all about it's just that in Fury he came up against somebody able to stop his right fist being triggered. Ortiz and the rest knew what Wilder had and would have done everything they could to nullify it but just weren't up to the job.
On another note, AJ is far superior to Wilder and I believe would knock him out not just a TKO either. When and if AJ and Fury get in ring I believe it's a 50/50 fight and if I had to bet I'd bet on AJ.
Despite his knock out percentage Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember. He just looks clueless when anybody puts the pressure on and he gets tagged. Frankly I'm astonished he reigned as long as he did with his one-trick.
“Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember” - then you have a short memory. Look up who AJ won his first world belt off On another note, AJ is far superior to Wilder and I believe would knock him out not just a TKO either. When and if AJ and Fury get in ring I believe it's a 50/50 fight and if I had to bet I'd bet on AJ.
Despite his knock out percentage Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember. He just looks clueless when anybody puts the pressure on and he gets tagged. Frankly I'm astonished he reigned as long as he did with his one-trick.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinI/status/123164332...
They are saying it's just a cut in his ear, and not a burst eardrum.
They are saying it's just a cut in his ear, and not a burst eardrum.
ThisInJapanese said:
https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinI/status/123164332...
They are saying it's just a cut in his ear, and not a burst eardrum.
Interesting... it certainly looked like a burst eardrum to me... given the protests straight after the fight that something had gone wrong in training expect a similar outcome I would say..... I didn't fight to my best ability because *insert reason here* ergo I'll reverse the result in a 3rd(lucrative) fight... They are saying it's just a cut in his ear, and not a burst eardrum.
Meanwhile joshua fights a dangerous opponent in pulev... that nobody outside of the boxing fraternity has heard of and the circus around fury wilder 3 gathers momentum..... and theres f
k all Joshua can do about it either... he just has to stay focused and keep winning until we get him and fury in the ring which is what everyone wants.... listening to both of them speak about their spar years ago when both were young and inexperienced we know one thing..... fury and joshua would make for a great fight... much better than fury/wilder by my reckoning bolidemichael said:
Wilder was already alluding to 'problems' in the lead time, whilst in the ring after the towel had been thrown.
I suspect that Wilder 'reigned' for so long, due to his unorthodox style combined with a devastating right hand.
He also appears to have avoided pretty much anybody of any note except maybe Ortiz. He never fought Wlad, White etc. I'm just looking through his record and it's pretty unremarkable.I suspect that Wilder 'reigned' for so long, due to his unorthodox style combined with a devastating right hand.
tuscaneer said:
Ayahuasca said:
What is the reason for all the different belts? Are some better than others, and will there ever be a single belt to rule them all?
It's a load of money making bks pal... back in the 50s there were 8 divisions and 8 world champions... now there are 17 divisions and 76 world champions...There is a new board called "the transnational boxing rankings board" who are ranking the top fighters in every division... they are trying to do what the ring have done but with far more kudos as its created and voted for by the luminaries of the boxing world ...NOT FOR PROFIT.... I really hope they succeed in banishing all these charlatans and money grubbers from ruining our sport
t 'regular', 'interim' and 'super' stuff it's somewhat diluted.A question I have. What would happen if AJ (WBA 'super' champion) was to fight Charr (WBA 'regular' champion)? Do the two belts get merged, or would it effectively be a title defence for AJ where he couldn't gain a further belt?
Wilder had never really fought anybody decent or at the top of there game till Fury 1 his record was padded with a lot of fringe contenders remember Fraudley.There will be excuses to come why it went wrong like there always is by the loser in these big bouts but it wont fool the public he was pretty much outclassed in every department on the night and looked dead on his feet after 3 rounds.He will always look devastating against static heavies but as Tyson proved if you can keep on the move and slip and slide a bit he will always be found wanting.In his head he will try to convince himself I came in too heavy I over trained etc but in his heart of hearts he knows Fury has his number and there surely cant be value in a 3rd and it would just be mugging joe public off.
Gadgetmac said:
bolidemichael said:
Wilder was already alluding to 'problems' in the lead time, whilst in the ring after the towel had been thrown.
I suspect that Wilder 'reigned' for so long, due to his unorthodox style combined with a devastating right hand.
He also appears to have avoided pretty much anybody of any note except maybe Ortiz. He never fought Wlad, White etc. I'm just looking through his record and it's pretty unremarkable.I suspect that Wilder 'reigned' for so long, due to his unorthodox style combined with a devastating right hand.
Never rated Wilder. Szpilka came close to spoiling the party a while back but fortunately for Wilder his right hand came to the rescue.
One of the best things about the Fury win was watching Stephen A Smith shutting up
lerate said:
Silkyskills said:
Wilder wasn't 'exposed' by Fury at all. Everybody knew what Wilder was all about it's just that in Fury he came up against somebody able to stop his right fist being triggered. Ortiz and the rest knew what Wilder had and would have done everything they could to nullify it but just weren't up to the job.
On another note, AJ is far superior to Wilder and I believe would knock him out not just a TKO either. When and if AJ and Fury get in ring I believe it's a 50/50 fight and if I had to bet I'd bet on AJ.
Despite his knock out percentage Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember. He just looks clueless when anybody puts the pressure on and he gets tagged. Frankly I'm astonished he reigned as long as he did with his one-trick.
“Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember” - then you have a short memory. Look up who AJ won his first world belt off On another note, AJ is far superior to Wilder and I believe would knock him out not just a TKO either. When and if AJ and Fury get in ring I believe it's a 50/50 fight and if I had to bet I'd bet on AJ.
Despite his knock out percentage Wilder is the most disappointing Heavyweight Champion I can remember. He just looks clueless when anybody puts the pressure on and he gets tagged. Frankly I'm astonished he reigned as long as he did with his one-trick.
tuscaneer said:
Ayahuasca said:
What is the reason for all the different belts? Are some better than others, and will there ever be a single belt to rule them all?
It's a load of money making bks pal... back in the 50s there were 8 divisions and 8 world champions... now there are 17 divisions and 76 world champions...There is a new board called "the transnational boxing rankings board" who are ranking the top fighters in every division... they are trying to do what the ring have done but with far more kudos as its created and voted for by the luminaries of the boxing world ...NOT FOR PROFIT.... I really hope they succeed in banishing all these charlatans and money grubbers from ruining our sport
Watching the Fury highlights again, I missed the right hand that Wilder caught Fury with in the first round. It clearly got Fury's attention, but that was it. It got me thinking, does a fighters punch resistance improve, can it improve? It was a solid right and it caught cleanly, so I would have expected more of an impact from the punch.
Also, Fury really isn't a good closer, when he had Wilder on the ropes, from what I saw (as somebody who's never laced up a pair of gloves!!) he seemed to become ragged and rush his work. For somebody who is clearly so technically strong in the middle of the ring, that strikes me as odd. AJ looks a much better finisher.
Also, Fury really isn't a good closer, when he had Wilder on the ropes, from what I saw (as somebody who's never laced up a pair of gloves!!) he seemed to become ragged and rush his work. For somebody who is clearly so technically strong in the middle of the ring, that strikes me as odd. AJ looks a much better finisher.
ThisInJapanese said:
Watching the Fury highlights again, I missed the right hand that Wilder caught Fury with in the first round. It clearly got Fury's attention, but that was it. It got me thinking, does a fighters punch resistance improve, can it improve? It was a solid right and it caught cleanly, so I would have expected more of an impact from the punch.
Also, Fury really isn't a good closer, when he had Wilder on the ropes, from what I saw (as somebody who's never laced up a pair of gloves!!) he seemed to become ragged and rush his work. For somebody who is clearly so technically strong in the middle of the ring, that strikes me as odd. AJ looks a much better finisher.
Everybody has a natural preference for where they fight. The way they're taught, physical attributes, natural skill, eyesight etc all play a part. Also, Fury really isn't a good closer, when he had Wilder on the ropes, from what I saw (as somebody who's never laced up a pair of gloves!!) he seemed to become ragged and rush his work. For somebody who is clearly so technically strong in the middle of the ring, that strikes me as odd. AJ looks a much better finisher.
Davos123 said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
so the American public can be sold a narrative which means their believe the trilogy would have a different outcome.
I know we're talking about the people who voted for Trump and watch the Big Bang Theory in the 10s of millions but even they can't be that stupid 
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