The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

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Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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bolidemichael said:
Gameface said:
Amirhussain said:
bolidemichael said:
I have read some of your comments and passions, with interest.

Could those of you enthusiasts suggest a variety of fights to watch for entertainment and perhaps must-see bouts? I have watched a few, obviously, but mainly the modern popular ones.
I’ll start... Ward v Gatti
https://youtu.be/hYkt9mdE5KQ
Benn v McClellan
That was one vicious fights - I just watched the highlights. Wow.
Well worth watching the documentary that was made, ‘The fight of their lives’ covering the Benn-McClellan fight.

https://youtu.be/cphU10YGxEY

The aftermath is very sad, some will say McClellan had it coming for what he did out of the ring but it’s still hard to watch. That fight actually took place 25 years ago yesterday.

TobyTR

1,068 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th February 2020
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Karma and sweet justice for buying a puppy from a pet shop, taping its mouth shut and letting his pitbull ravish it to death, while he recorded it.

He got what he deserved.

Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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I will never forget it. I've never known an atmosphere like it. Electric doesn't even come close. Gives me goosebumps just thinking about it.

Was really cold outside, but like a sauna once you were ringside. We were 7 rows from the ring. Frank Bruno, Naseem Hamed, Frank Warren etc in front of us.

McClellan was the huge favourite. No-one gave Benn a chance in the run up. There was talk of him being hypnotised by Paul McKenna. You had Don King walking around the ring waving stupid little flags, mouthing off and winding up the crowd.

Benn came out the dressing room and he really did look hypnotised. His eyes were like saucers, unblinking. I remember looking at McClellan just before the first bell, as he was being given his gum shield and he said to his trainer, "let's kick this motherfkers ass".

And that's what's he did. Benn was knocked down and through the ropes on the the judges table in the first round (going out of the ring bought some time IMO) and he weathered the storm.

After that it was just a war. Vicious, unrelenting violence. At the start of one round (possibly the 4th) they both came out and landed simultaneous haymakers and they both nearly went down.

Frank Bruno in a stupid orange suit wouldn't sit down and was getting grief for spoiling people's view.

Benn was put down again and came back stronger. McClellan was pushing out his gum shield, due to fatigue we thought, but perhaps not in hindsight, and was weakening.

He took a knee twice and didn't get up after the second one.

The place erupted. It was fking bedlam. Benn was saluting the crowd from on the corner pads/ropes and telling them they should believe in the Dark Destroyer and the ring was full of people.

As such it took a while to realise that McClellan was in trouble. He didn't collapse right away. Then the doctors and medical teams went in the ring and we knew it was not good.

They wanted the ring cleared but it just wasn't happening, and I honestly don't think Benn knew there was a problem until he was told while giving a TV interview (but that's just my opinion).

We eventually made our way out and the last thing I saw was Don King fawning all over Benn while his own fighter was being carried out of the ring on a stretcher and being given oxygen. The wker!

I was high on adrenalin and barely slept that night. I've never been so affected by a sport. Liverpool winning the champions league was amazing but I wasn't at the game, so it doesn't compare. When you see two men almost killing themselves a few feet in front of you, it doesn't leave you...

The legacy of the fight is tragic but no-one who was there will ever forget it.

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Gameface said:
We eventually made our way out and the last thing I saw was Don King fawning all over Benn while his own fighter was being carried out of the ring on a stretcher and being given oxygen. The wker!
That ‘man’ really is the lowest of the low. Vile, wretched person who even death doesn’t want to claim!

Reading about the fight, he got rid of Manny Steward and replaced him with Stan Johnson who many felt was just out of his depth, even in the documentary he comes across as an idiot, claiming Benn was on gear and apparently McClellan wrapping his own hands before the fight.

ferrisbueller

29,327 posts

227 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Amirhussain said:
bolidemichael said:
Gameface said:
Amirhussain said:
bolidemichael said:
I have read some of your comments and passions, with interest.

Could those of you enthusiasts suggest a variety of fights to watch for entertainment and perhaps must-see bouts? I have watched a few, obviously, but mainly the modern popular ones.
I’ll start... Ward v Gatti
https://youtu.be/hYkt9mdE5KQ
Benn v McClellan
That was one vicious fights - I just watched the highlights. Wow.
Well worth watching the documentary that was made, ‘The fight of their lives’ covering the Benn-McClellan fight.

https://youtu.be/cphU10YGxEY

The aftermath is very sad, some will say McClellan had it coming for what he did out of the ring but it’s still hard to watch. That fight actually took place 25 years ago yesterday.
Calzaghe Vs Lacy.

bolidemichael

13,858 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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ferrisbueller said:
Calzaghe Vs Lacy.
He gave Lacy a schooling. It's funny that you can really see the unconventional rhythm/musicality boxing style of Enzo in Joe's flurries and attacks.

ferrisbueller

29,327 posts

227 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Amirhussain said:
Gameface said:
We eventually made our way out and the last thing I saw was Don King fawning all over Benn while his own fighter was being carried out of the ring on a stretcher and being given oxygen. The wker!
That ‘man’ really is the lowest of the low. Vile, wretched person who even death doesn’t want to claim!
How he got away with what he did. And how often. Vile is a good word.

bolidemichael

13,858 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Gameface said:
I will never forget it. I've never known an atmosphere like it. Electric doesn't even come close. Gives me goosebumps just thinking about it.

Was really cold outside, but like a sauna once you were ringside. We were 7 rows from the ring. Frank Bruno, Naseem Hamed, Frank Warren etc in front of us.

McClellan was the huge favourite. No-one gave Benn a chance in the run up. There was talk of him being hypnotised by Paul McKenna. You had Don King walking around the ring waving stupid little flags, mouthing off and winding up the crowd.

Benn came out the dressing room and he really did look hypnotised. His eyes were like saucers, unblinking. I remember looking at McClellan just before the first bell, as he was being given his gum shield and he said to his trainer, "let's kick this motherfkers ass".

And that's what's he did. Benn was knocked down and through the ropes on the the judges table in the first round (going out of the ring bought some time IMO) and he weathered the storm.

After that it was just a war. Vicious, unrelenting violence. At the start of one round (possibly the 4th) they both came out and landed simultaneous haymakers and they both nearly went down.

Frank Bruno in a stupid orange suit wouldn't sit down and was getting grief for spoiling people's view.

Benn was put down again and came back stronger. McClellan was pushing out his gum shield, due to fatigue we thought, but perhaps not in hindsight, and was weakening.

He took a knee twice and didn't get up after the second one.

The place erupted. It was fking bedlam. Benn was saluting the crowd from on the corner pads/ropes and telling them they should believe in the Dark Destroyer and the ring was full of people.

As such it took a while to realise that McClellan was in trouble. He didn't collapse right away. Then the doctors and medical teams went in the ring and we knew it was not good.

They wanted the ring cleared but it just wasn't happening, and I honestly don't think Benn knew there was a problem until he was told while giving a TV interview (but that's just my opinion).

We eventually made our way out and the last thing I saw was Don King fawning all over Benn while his own fighter was being carried out of the ring on a stretcher and being given oxygen. The wker!

I was high on adrenalin and barely slept that night. I've never been so affected by a sport. Liverpool winning the champions league was amazing but I wasn't at the game, so it doesn't compare. When you see two men almost killing themselves a few feet in front of you, it doesn't leave you...

The legacy of the fight is tragic but no-one who was there will ever forget it.
I experienced it vicariously via your eye witness report. What an experience, the whole place seems alive and the air fizzing in the video.

ferrisbueller

29,327 posts

227 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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bolidemichael said:
Gameface said:
I will never forget it. I've never known an atmosphere like it. Electric doesn't even come close. Gives me goosebumps just thinking about it.

Was really cold outside, but like a sauna once you were ringside. We were 7 rows from the ring. Frank Bruno, Naseem Hamed, Frank Warren etc in front of us.

McClellan was the huge favourite. No-one gave Benn a chance in the run up. There was talk of him being hypnotised by Paul McKenna. You had Don King walking around the ring waving stupid little flags, mouthing off and winding up the crowd.

Benn came out the dressing room and he really did look hypnotised. His eyes were like saucers, unblinking. I remember looking at McClellan just before the first bell, as he was being given his gum shield and he said to his trainer, "let's kick this motherfkers ass".

And that's what's he did. Benn was knocked down and through the ropes on the the judges table in the first round (going out of the ring bought some time IMO) and he weathered the storm.

After that it was just a war. Vicious, unrelenting violence. At the start of one round (possibly the 4th) they both came out and landed simultaneous haymakers and they both nearly went down.

Frank Bruno in a stupid orange suit wouldn't sit down and was getting grief for spoiling people's view.

Benn was put down again and came back stronger. McClellan was pushing out his gum shield, due to fatigue we thought, but perhaps not in hindsight, and was weakening.

He took a knee twice and didn't get up after the second one.

The place erupted. It was fking bedlam. Benn was saluting the crowd from on the corner pads/ropes and telling them they should believe in the Dark Destroyer and the ring was full of people.

As such it took a while to realise that McClellan was in trouble. He didn't collapse right away. Then the doctors and medical teams went in the ring and we knew it was not good.

They wanted the ring cleared but it just wasn't happening, and I honestly don't think Benn knew there was a problem until he was told while giving a TV interview (but that's just my opinion).

We eventually made our way out and the last thing I saw was Don King fawning all over Benn while his own fighter was being carried out of the ring on a stretcher and being given oxygen. The wker!

I was high on adrenalin and barely slept that night. I've never been so affected by a sport. Liverpool winning the champions league was amazing but I wasn't at the game, so it doesn't compare. When you see two men almost killing themselves a few feet in front of you, it doesn't leave you...

The legacy of the fight is tragic but no-one who was there will ever forget it.
I experienced it vicariously via your eye witness report. What an experience, the whole place seems alive and the air fizzing in the video.
I remember GM starting to blink and show signs of something going awry, though memory may be playing tricks. He didn't seem badly hurt at the end but obviously things were going terribly wrong. Nigel Benn was a warrior. Back in the days when big fights used to be on ITV, I think.

Davos123

5,966 posts

212 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Fantastic write-up Gameface, thanks for that!

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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We watched the fight in the pub up town, back in the days when a fight like that could stop city centre pubs. DJ stopped playing, TVs turned up and everyone got involved.

Brutal doesn’t cover it.

I know it’s a cliche but the rumble in the jungle is something else too. Technically more interesting than Frazier vs Ali (both) and if the film When We Were Kings is out there to watch then no boxing fan should not have seen it.

Tickle

4,919 posts

204 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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bolidemichael said:
Gameface said:
Amirhussain said:
bolidemichael said:
I have read some of your comments and passions, with interest.

Could those of you enthusiasts suggest a variety of fights to watch for entertainment and perhaps must-see bouts? I have watched a few, obviously, but mainly the modern popular ones.
I’ll start... Ward v Gatti
https://youtu.be/hYkt9mdE5KQ
Benn v McClellan
That was one vicious fights - I just watched the highlights. Wow.
Pacquiao vs Marquez fights are fantastic, Marquez is one of my favourite fighters, loved his style/technique. I assume bolidemichael you have watched Barrera v Morrales too, again toe to toe fights. ...Think this has set me up for Friday once the kids have gone up! beer

ETA: Corrales (RIP) Vs Castillo.


Edited by Tickle on Thursday 27th February 07:18

tuscaneer

7,764 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Gameface said:
Amirhussain said:
bolidemichael said:
I have read some of your comments and passions, with interest.

Could those of you enthusiasts suggest a variety of fights to watch for entertainment and perhaps must-see bouts? I have watched a few, obviously, but mainly the modern popular ones.
I’ll start... Ward v Gatti
https://youtu.be/hYkt9mdE5KQ
Benn v McClellan
Speaking of mclellan.... I've got one of his gloves from one of the julian Jackson fights..



biggbn

23,322 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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Manilla. The near room to dying. I still cry when I watch that fight. Two men, past their peaks, who both refuse to lose to pride. Both taking long lasting punishment that they would have evaded easily a few years before. That, and Benn v McClellan are the two most emotionally draining 'fights' I have ever seen. I use the term 'fight' as they were so much more. This was an investiture of the souls of the participants and they all left the ring with a little less of themselves, and a little more of each other than they entered with. Goosebumps right now.

Edited by biggbn on Thursday 27th February 17:51

tuscaneer

7,764 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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bolidemichael said:
I have read some of your comments and passions, with interest.

Could those of you enthusiasts suggest a variety of fights to watch for entertainment and perhaps must-see bouts? I have watched a few, obviously, but mainly the modern popular ones.
one of the maddest heavyweight fights...then punch stats in this fight were off the scale,,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZCHNVj-Ro

tuscaneer

7,764 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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the guy that mike tyson used as inspiration for all out natiness....

dempsey broke 3 of willards ribs and numerous bones in his face, busted his jaw too..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3BTycNuY44

tuscaneer

7,764 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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here's a guy you may not have even heard of.... sensational boxer who's career was cut short in the run up to his fight with a prime golovkin with a crippling back injury... i thought at that time nobody had a chance with golovkin...except pirog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKD7SvVaQQo

tuscaneer

7,764 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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oh..... a great shout from amir with gatti/ward trilogy......

if you go back to the 40s the greatest middleweight trilogy of all time.... rocky graziano v tony zale... well worth checking out!

Edited by tuscaneer on Thursday 27th February 07:40

tuscaneer

7,764 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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madness featuring jack dempsey v firpo...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NN0vGHnCLo

tuscaneer

7,764 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th February 2020
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can't see too much here but sam langford was far and away the best heavyweight to never win a world title... in a fair and square era he would easily have been champ..and for a long time too... his resume is the stuff of legend....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jshQHp-rkXQ
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