The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
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tuscaneer said:
one of the maddest heavyweight fights...the punch stats in this fight were off the scale,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZCHNVj-Ro
Bearing in mind the weight behind all those punches, that's some scary shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZCHNVj-Ro
t.Gameface said:
tuscaneer said:
one of the maddest heavyweight fights...the punch stats in this fight were off the scale,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZCHNVj-Ro
Bearing in mind the weight behind all those punches, that's some scary shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZCHNVj-Ro
t.t for both guys!!!!..One for tusc - was perusing the Classifieds on Bloomberg this morning and someone is selling a signed AJ glove in display case, all CoA papers included - £700. No idea if that is expensive or about right but I know you are a bit of a collector, so let me know if you want details. No connection to me.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
We watched the fight in the pub up town, back in the days when a fight like that could stop city centre pubs. DJ stopped playing, TVs turned up and everyone got involved.
Watching the Benn/Clellan documentary and the talk of Nas reminded me of that... finding out which pub in town was going to have the fight on and making sure to be in for the start, everyone beered up... brilliant atmosphere. Gameface said:
I will never forget it...
Thanks for such a good write-up (and to all the other links to great fights everybody!). This thread is pretty much the only one I visit on a regular basis on PH now, it's great that it's never slipped into name-calling, it's really kept my love of boxing going.
I loved Nigel Benn as a youngest, the middleweight wars with him, Eubank and Collins were amazing. I was lucky enough to be slightly on the edges of boxing. My old man used to look after the BBCs commentators, working closely with Harry Carpenter and the other comms. He worked on a lot of Bruno's fights and is still friends with him today. When speaking to Dad about his most memorable nights, he always goes back to Barry McGuigan against Eusebio Pedroza at Loftus Road. Dad had his wallet stolen from him in the ring post-fight that night!
The Benn McClellan fights was a turning point for my Dad in what he used to do. The ring was always a scrum at the end of the fight, and he used to have to wade in and manhandle the boxer to the ringside for interviews. McClellan bought around changes to all that, and watching the McGuigan fight you see the difference post-fight between then and now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u256FIl_HtE
Rumble in the Jungle was undoubtedly the fight of the century. Imagine Tyson Fury standing back on the ropes and allowing Wilder to hit him at will for 8 rounds with no response...just biding his time...every now and again Ali would pop his head out to tell the crowd he wasn't being hurt before hunkering up like a turtle going into his shell and allowing the onslaught to continue. Only Ali knew what he was doing, everybody watching couldn't understand what he was doing...until Foreman inevitably began to lose power in the shots as the energy just drained from his body. What happened next is the stuff of legend. it had never been seen before and has never been seen since as a game plan.
Other fights I've really enjoyed were the Sugar Ray Leonard fights vs Duran, Hearns and Hagler. SRL was the nearest thing to Ali there's ever been in my opinion.
Other fights I've really enjoyed were the Sugar Ray Leonard fights vs Duran, Hearns and Hagler. SRL was the nearest thing to Ali there's ever been in my opinion.
Silkyskills said:
Rumble in the Jungle was undoubtedly the fight of the century. Imagine Tyson Fury standing back on the ropes and allowing Wilder to hit him at will for 8 rounds with no response...just biding his time...every now and again Ali would pop his head out to tell the crowd he wasn't being hurt before hunkering up like a turtle going into his shell and allowing the onslaught to continue. Only Ali knew what he was doing, everybody watching couldn't understand what he was doing...until Foreman inevitably began to lose power in the shots as the energy just drained from his body. What happened next is the stuff of legend. it had never been seen before and has never been seen since as a game plan.
Other fights I've really enjoyed were the Sugar Ray Leonard fights vs Duran, Hearns and Hagler. SRL was the nearest thing to Ali there's ever been in my opinion.
Ali was the antithesis of Fury in the build up to that fight, he'd convinced everyone he was going to do the complete opposite of what he did whereas Fury (as far as I'm aware) pretty much gives up his game plan months in advance and goes and does it! Crackers really.Other fights I've really enjoyed were the Sugar Ray Leonard fights vs Duran, Hearns and Hagler. SRL was the nearest thing to Ali there's ever been in my opinion.
What was interesting in TRITJ was the first round, Ali came out swinging on the front foot and tried to put Foreman on his arse. The hyperbole that surrounds the fight now I don't think we'll ever know just what Ali's game plan was from the off.
Was he looking for a lucky KO in the 1st, before falling back onto his rope a dope tactic? Did he honestly think he could open up the previous cut on Foreman and when he couldn't tried something off the wall in the heat of the moment? Was it the plan all along?
I personally think he had the game plan all along and knew he wasn't going to dance at all, such was his insistence that it was what he was going to do. Then pride kicked in and he thought "well at least I'll try and knock him out to begin with!".
pincher said:
One for tusc - was perusing the Classifieds on Bloomberg this morning and someone is selling a signed AJ glove in display case, all CoA papers included - £700. No idea if that is expensive or about right but I know you are a bit of a collector, so let me know if you want details. No connection to me.
Cheers for the heads up pal.....I'm a bit of a glove fan..
Here's a shot from a couple of years ago... theres been a few more added since then...
700 sheets for a joshua glove is very heavy money tbh... and the worst bit is he signs so much stuff that there will never be any exclusivity to it... it's a bit like Jake la motta...he spent the last few years of his life signing his name on anything so that now his signature ain't worth much... on the other hand if you get stuff that there isn't a lot of it can cost mega bucks... sonny liston, for example, hardly ever signed his name on anything and his authenticated signatures go for a small fortune...
Edited by tuscaneer on Thursday 27th February 10:52
ash73 said:
dirty boy said:
I grew up watching tapes (yes tapes lol) of Ali, Marciano, Liston, Frazier, Foreman and Holmes et al, then grew up idolising Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis, then that love in with Benn, Eubank and Collins on home shores and how awesome was Naz and Hatton...
Wilder reminds me of Naz; showboating and feet-off-the-floor missiles knocking people senseless, then comes up against someone really good and... oh st.Out>>>>> Door is that way >>>>
Naz was awesome. Losing to MAB was no disgrace, I still believe he would have won a rematch too (maybe that's the fanboy in me talking) but it's well documented about his issues around that time. Remember, Emmanuel Steward believed he had the talent to become one of the greatest boxers ever....some statement by someone who knew what they were talking about.
Anyway, i'll catch up on the rest of the thread now
Chris Stott said:
Properly loved that 
dirty boy said:
Chris Stott said:
Properly loved that I see that the ref from the fight has said that if wilders corner hadn't thrown in the towel he was on the verge of stopping it anyway. He'd given wilder that clue during the break before the 7th that he "wanted to see something coming back from him now".
Code for 'I'm stopping it if I don't see anything'.
This vindicates Breland.
Code for 'I'm stopping it if I don't see anything'.
This vindicates Breland.
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