The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
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Lomachenko lost that fight. He gave it away in those early rounds by doing nothing.
He spent too much "downloading" his gigabytes or whatever the heck he was doing.
When he did let his hands go you could see how effective he was in closing the distance and putting his punches together.
No doubt Lopez won though.
He spent too much "downloading" his gigabytes or whatever the heck he was doing.
When he did let his hands go you could see how effective he was in closing the distance and putting his punches together.
No doubt Lopez won though.
AmirGSXR said:
I agree. Lopez did a great job and well deserved but I wonder what Lomas game plan was? If he hoped to come on strong later then he needed 15 rounds not 12!
He was too wary of Lomez's power. There were moments in the fight where you could see a gulf in class between the two fighters. But Loma as too much 'safety first' to win.
Overall, a surprising result - I thought Loma would win at a canter, having too much skill. The rematch will be interesting...
Loma lost that in the last round...my card pretty much parallels andre wards card.... in the first 6 rounds looez had everything bar the 2nd....loma had 7,8,9,10,11.... lopez won the last...
For me a draw wouldn't have been out of the question but it "feels" like the right man won....
The score cards were a nonsense....
Lomachenko had all the tools to win that in comfort but I think he wS very wary of lopez's power early doors....he did look every bit 2 divisions smaller....
Got to admit though .. i have always thought of looez as a mule kick right handed one trick pony. He displayed a lot of skill in there last..far more than I thought he had in his arsenal....
Loma deserves a rematch and of lopez doesn't take it its because he knows loma will reset and know what to expect next time around
For me a draw wouldn't have been out of the question but it "feels" like the right man won....
The score cards were a nonsense....
Lomachenko had all the tools to win that in comfort but I think he wS very wary of lopez's power early doors....he did look every bit 2 divisions smaller....
Got to admit though .. i have always thought of looez as a mule kick right handed one trick pony. He displayed a lot of skill in there last..far more than I thought he had in his arsenal....
Loma deserves a rematch and of lopez doesn't take it its because he knows loma will reset and know what to expect next time around
272BHP said:
Loma got exposed i to be honest. I think he is very weight sensitive and he got a bit bullied in there.
Gets hit far too much at the heavier weight.
Yep. You saw how small his frame was compared to Lopez'. He also only hydrates a few pounds too.Gets hit far too much at the heavier weight.
Lopez looked a good 15lbs bigger in there and you saw it too.
Lopez could go to 140lbs or even 147lbs and not be out sized.
Lopez has every right not to go for a rematch I think. He has earned the right here to move that further down the line where the crowds are fully back and he can get a decent pay day.
But I certainly would like to see them fight again on a proper fight night. The rematch would be a much better fight as Loma will have to get on the pedal from the off - could be a real barnstormer that one.
But I certainly would like to see them fight again on a proper fight night. The rematch would be a much better fight as Loma will have to get on the pedal from the off - could be a real barnstormer that one.
Some further reflections on the fight...
...Lopez was obviously bigger and heavier, and as others have said, Loma was cautious of the powershot and really avoided unloading early on. Loma knew he doesn't have the power shot that would take out Lopez, and at times Lopez was happy to stand in the 'pocket' and trade as it looked like he was never 'hurt' by any of Loma's punches.
We also have to consider that fighters may be figuring out Loma's style and finding ways to control the fight.
I think in round 11 and 12, Loma demonstrated the superior boxing IQ. Perhaps the move up in weight was too much to ask and that the ring IQ is more effective when either you can knock the other guy out, or at the very least the other guy isn't going to knock you out.
I think Lopez has a long road ahead with plenty of tough fights. He isn't the finish material and will have to work hard to establish himself as P4P king. It will be interesting to see what both fighters decide to do next.
...Lopez was obviously bigger and heavier, and as others have said, Loma was cautious of the powershot and really avoided unloading early on. Loma knew he doesn't have the power shot that would take out Lopez, and at times Lopez was happy to stand in the 'pocket' and trade as it looked like he was never 'hurt' by any of Loma's punches.
We also have to consider that fighters may be figuring out Loma's style and finding ways to control the fight.
I think in round 11 and 12, Loma demonstrated the superior boxing IQ. Perhaps the move up in weight was too much to ask and that the ring IQ is more effective when either you can knock the other guy out, or at the very least the other guy isn't going to knock you out.
I think Lopez has a long road ahead with plenty of tough fights. He isn't the finish material and will have to work hard to establish himself as P4P king. It will be interesting to see what both fighters decide to do next.
tuscaneer said:
Loma lost that in the last round...my card pretty much parallels andre wards card.... in the first 6 rounds looez had everything bar the 2nd....loma had 7,8,9,10,11.... lopez won the last...
For me a draw wouldn't have been out of the question but it "feels" like the right man won....
The score cards were a nonsense....
Lomachenko had all the tools to win that in comfort but I think he wS very wary of lopez's power early doors....he did look every bit 2 divisions smaller....
Got to admit though .. i have always thought of looez as a mule kick right handed one trick pony. He displayed a lot of skill in there last..far more than I thought he had in his arsenal....
Loma deserves a rematch and of lopez doesn't take it its because he knows loma will reset and know what to expect next time around
Agree with all of that. At half way I was thinking Loma needed a stoppage and couldn't see where it would come from. There was a moment in the 11th when I though Lopez might be running out of steam but he regrouped well. A fascinating technical fight but it never caught fire. For me a draw wouldn't have been out of the question but it "feels" like the right man won....
The score cards were a nonsense....
Lomachenko had all the tools to win that in comfort but I think he wS very wary of lopez's power early doors....he did look every bit 2 divisions smaller....
Got to admit though .. i have always thought of looez as a mule kick right handed one trick pony. He displayed a lot of skill in there last..far more than I thought he had in his arsenal....
Loma deserves a rematch and of lopez doesn't take it its because he knows loma will reset and know what to expect next time around
Gadgetmac said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
The rematch will be interesting...
Is there a rematch clause?Arum promotes both Lomachenko and Lopez. And this fight was all about raising the profile of both fighters - we know this because Lomachenko agreed to take less than his contracted purse to make the fight happen (link below). And it was broadcast on ESPN (rather than ESPN+ or PPV) to maximise the audience.
It was always going to be a risk for Loma facing Lopez - we have seen many times he is vulnerable to the bigger fighters at 135lb. And being the WBC franchise champion, he isn't required to face mandatory challengers, so he can pick his opponents.
This means he could have waited until next year, and picked any number of good but lower risk opponents and got paid more money. So why risk it with Lopez now (for a lower purse) unless you have been promised something good would come out of it?
So logically I think that would be a rematch in the spring on PPV. That suits Lopez, Loma and Arum.
https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-loma-given-us-rel...
I think I called Lopez a few pages back not won quite how you'd think but fair play he's now than a brawler showed some real control but made his power felt early on which made Lomo very very cautious. Don't forget there are almost no knockout artists at this weight and he knew it was lights out if Lopez planted his feet and landed something.
Good close fight anyway pretty rare to see a proper unification fight there should be more of them really.
Good close fight anyway pretty rare to see a proper unification fight there should be more of them really.
I think this means Loma sticks around a little longer before he retires, as he can’t go out without re-cementing his legacy. Honestly I think it’s hard to see how he beats Lopez in a rematch because the only time he had success he put himself into the firing line at the same time. Normally he’s able to unload without getting a lot back in return. Not against the bigger guy with pretty much equal skills. Very few gave Lopez even a punchers chance, to out box Loma is a huge achievement.
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