The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

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Saweep

6,601 posts

187 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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I think Matt Macklin wants Usyk's babies.

Usyk is wasting his time in the heavies. None of the big three would see him as anything other than a payday.

EddieSteadyGo

12,030 posts

204 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Saweep said:
I think Matt Macklin wants Usyk's babies.
Always the way with Sky commentary. We always know who they want to win.

dangerousB

1,697 posts

191 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Chisora was blowing in round 3.

Usyk's footwork is a delight

EddieSteadyGo

12,030 posts

204 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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dangerousB said:
Usyk's footwork is a delight
True. But the pot-shoting from Usyk is a bit boring to watch.

Also far too much fake crowd noise.

Saweep

6,601 posts

187 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Saweep said:
I think Matt Macklin wants Usyk's babies.
Always the way with Sky commentary. We always know who they want to win.
They didn't know what to say when Bellew disagreed with them.

Usyk's got no power.

biggbn

23,501 posts

221 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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This is a much closer fight than sky have it. 8-4 usyk for me, with del still in it. Fury destroys this guy, AJ I'm not so sure....?

EddieSteadyGo

12,030 posts

204 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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Saweep said:
Usyk's got no power.
90% of his shots are from the back foot, because he still has a more risk adverse, amateur style.

EddieSteadyGo

12,030 posts

204 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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biggbn said:
This is a much closer fight than sky have it. 8-4 usyk for me, with del still in it. Fury destroys this guy, AJ I'm not so sure....?
Can't see Usyk knocking out Joshua - mainly due to his style. And I can't see Joshua losing on the scorecards, regardless of how he boxed.

ThisInJapanese

10,923 posts

227 months

Saturday 31st October 2020
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I think AJ would beat him, better fundamentals than Del Boy and a much better jab. Too many wild shots from Chisora that have left him out of position, seems to want to end it with one punch. He's playing into Usyk's hands.

Also, what's with Chisora's low and really wide hooks to the body, they look awful.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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Listened to it on 5 live.

Dillian Whyte as guest commentator, hugely critical of Chisora's corner. That they did nothing and have no advice, and that was because they were not ex-boxers and boxing people but conditioners and the like.

Thoughts?

biggbn

23,501 posts

221 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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biggbn said:
This is a much closer fight than sky have it. 8-4 usyk for me, with del still in it. Fury destroys this guy, AJ I'm not so sure....?
Sorry, typo. I had it 4 each going into 9th, then I bloody missed rounds 9-11, thanks sky, so I dunno, 8-4 might have been right, as might the 115-113 scores, somebody enlighten me. Del did well I thought, Usyk did not look like a master boxer, caught to many times for me

fridaypassion

8,587 posts

229 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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David Haye is full of crap is my thoughts! Everything he says is fantasy land. They have done well with Chisoras conditioning he's never looked anything but close to death towards the end of most of his previous fights but he just lacks much technical skill. He's a warrior and has a titanium chin but he's a journeyman now.

Usyk I thought would have got him out of there I would agree that he's a way off ready for Fury as Tyson has equal technical ability and is freakishly fast. AJ might be another matter if he can work on his power. AJ just needs catching ad he's seeing stars.

EddieSteadyGo

12,030 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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hyphen said:
Dillian Whyte as guest commentator, hugely critical of Chisora's corner. That they did nothing and have no advice, and that was because they were not ex-boxers and boxing people but conditioners and the like.

Thoughts?
It's true. But it wouldn't have made much difference.

Taylor James

3,111 posts

62 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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What was Bellew smoking?

George Groves called it right - 9-3 and Usyk would have finished it in 7 with another 30 seconds. Sfter that he took his foot off the gas.

Just as I called it. A good workout for Usyk but no more than that against a strong Del Boy. Usyk knows he will have to do better. I can see why people favour AJ but AJ is not a great boxer. I would be confident that a match sharp Usyk would beat AJ but not Fury.

Olivera

7,174 posts

240 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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Enjoyable fight.

That's certainly the fittest I've seen Chisora, yet Usyk ate up his punches quite easily and never looked in trouble.

Usyk's power doesn't look exceptional, but I do think he has the potential to try and outpoint AJ and Fury in a similar manner.

EddieSteadyGo

12,030 posts

204 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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Olivera said:
Usyk's power doesn't look exceptional, but I do think he has the potential to try and outpoint AJ and Fury in a similar manner.
Usyk doesn't have great support. I suspect tonight's PPV numbers as an example will be poor. So the money behind Usky will be relatively low. AJ on the other hand, and indeed Fury, makes a lot of people a lot of money. So the harsh reality is Usyk won't beat them on points. Neither will he knock them out.

biggbn

23,501 posts

221 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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Taylor James said:
What was Bellew smoking?

George Groves called it right - 9-3 and Usyk would have finished it in 7 with another 30 seconds. Sfter that he took his foot off the gas.

Just as I called it. A good workout for Usyk but no more than that against a strong Del Boy. Usyk knows he will have to do better. I can see why people favour AJ but AJ is not a great boxer. I would be confident that a match sharp Usyk would beat AJ but not Fury.
I think Usyk was somewhat exposed. A master boxer would not have had to fight the other guys fight, nor be caught so heavily and so often to head and body. Yes, he won, but not by the margin suggested on the joke scorecard, the 115-113 cards were much more representative. Styles making fights i still think his ring iq sees him outbox AJ, but Fury will make him look foolish. To small, to easy to hit, perhaps too old even, and I mean rounds and ring old. Great footwork, but he will struggle at heavy as I predicted. Intersting how we wee things differently!!

Saweep

6,601 posts

187 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Olivera said:
Usyk's power doesn't look exceptional, but I do think he has the potential to try and outpoint AJ and Fury in a similar manner.
Usyk doesn't have great support. I suspect tonight's PPV numbers as an example will be poor. So the money behind Usky will be relatively low. AJ on the other hand, and indeed Fury, makes a lot of people a lot of money. So the harsh reality is Usyk won't beat them on points. Neither will he knock them out.
Can't disagree. He looked tiny compared to Chisora and Fury made Wilder look like a little boy in their rematch. Fury is a huge, huge man!

I can't see anything other than Fury demolishing Usyk. Not that they will ever fight.


What business does David Haye have being a conditioning coach? Conditioning coaches spend years at uni studying this science and know what they're doing. Just making Chisora do some exercises he's done himself, or seen on instagram, does not a S&C Coach make.

justice.

3,681 posts

165 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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Anyone watching Davis/Santa Cruz?!

Christ...

Daniel1

2,931 posts

199 months

Sunday 1st November 2020
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justice. said:
Anyone watching Davis/Santa Cruz?!

Christ...
Yeap.

Much more entertaining fight (and presentation) than the UK show tonight

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