The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
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fridaypassion said:
Kelly looked very sharp early on I think the pace got to him he'd punched himself out a bit by the end of the 4th
Not a good place to be against any top opponent.Just got this feeling that he was schooled so comprehensively after about the 3rd round last night that its a long way back from here.
Kelly looked world class for the first 2 or 3 rounds, thought he'd finally got his s
t together and then his complete lack of ring IQ came through again. Might end up with a European title but won't do better than that imo.
Berchelt Vs Valdez last night was an absolute banger - won't spoil the result but definitely watch the full fight if you haven't already.
Adrian Broner also had his first fight in 2 years last night. Was totally crap for the first half of the fight, started to get more comfortable thereafter but even with a bullst points deduction for his opponent (a part time gardener) I had Broner losing by 2 rounds and 1 point.
Obviously he won a UD with one particularly corrupt official scoring it 117-110
t together and then his complete lack of ring IQ came through again. Might end up with a European title but won't do better than that imo.Berchelt Vs Valdez last night was an absolute banger - won't spoil the result but definitely watch the full fight if you haven't already.
Adrian Broner also had his first fight in 2 years last night. Was totally crap for the first half of the fight, started to get more comfortable thereafter but even with a bulls
t points deduction for his opponent (a part time gardener) I had Broner losing by 2 rounds and 1 point.Obviously he won a UD with one particularly corrupt official scoring it 117-110
Edited by Pugaris on Sunday 21st February 17:35
DAZN has is currently streaming live footage from the gym Canelo is training at. Equally interesting/boring at the same time but a good example of how DAZN is trying new things.
Good card last night. Thought Kelly was going to have a breakout fight during the first few rounds (had a treble of which he was the last leg) but he did fold relatively quickly and agree with the previous poster. European level would be his max.
Good card last night. Thought Kelly was going to have a breakout fight during the first few rounds (had a treble of which he was the last leg) but he did fold relatively quickly and agree with the previous poster. European level would be his max.
As it stands he needs a bit of luck or a reasonable improvement to get a Euro title win. It seems like people on here have a bit of an ‘only Euro level’ attitude, when the reality is that to reach that level is an outstanding achievement.
I actually don’t care if he does or if he doesn’t, he is a prick and I have no interest in him.
It’s not been a good time for Matchroom these past few weeks.
I actually don’t care if he does or if he doesn’t, he is a prick and I have no interest in him.
It’s not been a good time for Matchroom these past few weeks.
EddieSteadyGo said:
That really depends on the cause of his frailty after those early rounds. If the main problem was being weight drained, then moving to 154lb could make all the difference.
He lacks power at 147 though. The big boys at LMW like Charlo will just walk right through him. Lee Jones Jnra said:
It’s not been a good time for Matchroom these past few weeks.
I think on the contrary, they've put on some absolutely fantastic cards with really competitive fights and that'll put them in good stead for the future. The guys that have lost haven't lost because they've been thrown in with someone good too early, but because they aren't that good. Matchroom should look attractive to top fighters at the moment because Hearn makes good fights and puts on fantastic undercards. There's a reason Canelo's keen on working with him over other promoters at the moment. Matchroom's biggest issue is the lack of talent in the UK outside the heavyweight division at the moment (bar Taylor, who's signed to PBC). They'll need to build their profile in the States and Mexico to start signing top talent over there.
I also wouldn't be shocked to see a merger with Golden Boy at some point (though not likely). They've lost Canelo and Garcia seems to hate ODLH, both work with Dazn so I wouldn't be surprised to see ODLH take a bit more of a backseat and let Eddie make him millions whilst he uses his name to pull in the best Latino talents.
Pugaris said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
That really depends on the cause of his frailty after those early rounds. If the main problem was being weight drained, then moving to 154lb could make all the difference.
He lacks power at 147 though. The big boys at LMW like Charlo will just walk right through him. Pugaris said:
I think on the contrary, they've put on some absolutely fantastic cards with really competitive fights and that'll put them in good stead for the future. The guys that have lost haven't lost because they've been thrown in with someone good too early, but because they aren't that good. Matchroom should look attractive to top fighters at the moment because Hearn makes good fights and puts on fantastic undercards. There's a reason Canelo's keen on working with him over other promoters at the moment.
Matchroom's biggest issue is the lack of talent in the UK outside the heavyweight division at the moment (bar Taylor, who's signed to PBC). They'll need to build their profile in the States and Mexico to start signing top talent over there.
I also wouldn't be shocked to see a merger with Golden Boy at some point (though not likely). They've lost Canelo and Garcia seems to hate ODLH, both work with Dazn so I wouldn't be surprised to see ODLH take a bit more of a backseat and let Eddie make him millions whilst he uses his name to pull in the best Latino talents.
Recent shows don’t make Matchroom any more desirable to a boxer than they were pre lockdown 1.Matchroom's biggest issue is the lack of talent in the UK outside the heavyweight division at the moment (bar Taylor, who's signed to PBC). They'll need to build their profile in the States and Mexico to start signing top talent over there.
I also wouldn't be shocked to see a merger with Golden Boy at some point (though not likely). They've lost Canelo and Garcia seems to hate ODLH, both work with Dazn so I wouldn't be surprised to see ODLH take a bit more of a backseat and let Eddie make him millions whilst he uses his name to pull in the best Latino talents.
They have wasted money building a boxer and now have to either do it again or cut the losses without the return on the investment that was planned and they have lost any big shows with Warrington.
I dare say they are in no trouble but things have not gone as expected and two income streams have taken huge steps back, one possibly is over completely.
last year matchroom boxing made 13 million pre tax profit on a turnover of 82 million (i've not bothered adding in matchroom italy, matchroom usa etc etc)
matchroom sports made 28.5 million pre tax profit on a turnover of 192 million.
when you start adding it all up with the various other companies within the group the entity is making in excess of 50 million a year....
Eddie is a shrewd guy... Barry even more so.... a few set backs with a loss here or there won't change their long term strategy a jot i wouldn't have thought.
oscar valdez looked incredible dismantling berlecht. that knockout was scary!
matchroom sports made 28.5 million pre tax profit on a turnover of 192 million.
when you start adding it all up with the various other companies within the group the entity is making in excess of 50 million a year....
Eddie is a shrewd guy... Barry even more so.... a few set backs with a loss here or there won't change their long term strategy a jot i wouldn't have thought.
oscar valdez looked incredible dismantling berlecht. that knockout was scary!
Edited by tuscaneer on Monday 22 February 06:44
tuscaneer said:
last year matchroom boxing made 13 million pre tax profit on a turnover of 82 million (i've not bothered adding in matchroom italy, matchroom usa etc etc)
matchroom sports made 28.5 million pre tax profit on a turnover of 192 million.
when you start adding it all up with the various other companies within the group the entity is making in excess of 50 million a year....
Eddie is a shrewd guy... Barry even more so.... a few set backs with a loss here or there won't change their long term strategy a jot i wouldn't have thought.
oscar valdez looked incredible dismantling berlecht. that knockout was scary!
I believe that most of the ventures in other countries are running at a loss at the moment but absolutely they are able to ride out coronavirus and lose a few boxers along the way.matchroom sports made 28.5 million pre tax profit on a turnover of 192 million.
when you start adding it all up with the various other companies within the group the entity is making in excess of 50 million a year....
Eddie is a shrewd guy... Barry even more so.... a few set backs with a loss here or there won't change their long term strategy a jot i wouldn't have thought.
oscar valdez looked incredible dismantling berlecht. that knockout was scary!
Edited by tuscaneer on Monday 22 February 06:44
Lee Jones Jnr said:
I believe that most of the ventures in other countries are running at a loss at the moment but absolutely they are able to ride out coronavirus and lose a few boxers along the way.
matchroom italy is a small entity but every branch on the tree is earning money it seems pal:italy 143k profit on 1.3 million turnover
usa(uk) 694k profit on 9 million turnover
usa (delaware, usa) non uk company so not visible
matchroom charitable foundation 335k profit
barry and eddie are making fortunes!
spence doesn't want the crawford heat...gotta say it... pacquiao still operating at this level, at this age, after everything he has achieved is nuts.. the fact that he is still willing to fight the very best in the sport years after he should have retired is incredible.. he's the best fighter of our generation..
... mind you, chuck me 40 million quid and i'd get in with crawford myself
... mind you, chuck me 40 million quid and i'd get in with crawford myself
Amirhussain said:
Apparently Shawn Porter has turned down 2 million to fight Crawford. Crawford a the champ, and Porter without a belt, how much does he have to offer? In terms of negotiations.
Porter is a big name. Aside from his boxing, he is a well known TV Pundit on american TV and also has a Podcast. Plus unlike many others, he may actually last 12 rounds.
Edited by hyphen on Monday 22 February 13:00
DocJock said:
I'm torn between The Oscar Valdez knockout and the Derrick Lewis one in the UFC for knockout of the week.
I'm going for Lewis just cos he was clowning in interviews before about how he was an all American wrestler now, wasn't going to trade with him and was going to take him to ground first opportunity and then went and did that Gassing Station | Sports | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff