The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)

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DocJock

8,359 posts

241 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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WTF was the deal with Steve Gray in the Ritson fight last night?

Ritson was getting beaten up, his corner threw in the towel, and SG picked it up and threw it back out, allowing another minute of beatdown before stopping the fight

BobsPigeon

749 posts

40 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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DocJock said:
WTF was the deal with Steve Gray in the Ritson fight last night?

Ritson was getting beaten up, his corner threw in the towel, and SG picked it up and threw it back out, allowing another minute of beatdown before stopping the fight
Here he is explaining to the corner after, I don't know Steve Gray but he's from around my way and I've seen him up close and I can tell you he's a first rate referee and a very well liked and respected man.

https://youtu.be/XYFqt_NZW4Y

It does happen occasionally, the referee has the final say on stopping any fight, quite rightly. There's a famous one a few years ago when Mickey Vann refused to stop a fight that was way worse than this event and the lad took about 4 more rounds.

Chilly for June

321 posts

76 months

Monday 14th June 2021
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BobsPigeon said:
DocJock said:
WTF was the deal with Steve Gray in the Ritson fight last night?

Ritson was getting beaten up, his corner threw in the towel, and SG picked it up and threw it back out, allowing another minute of beatdown before stopping the fight
Here he is explaining to the corner after, I don't know Steve Gray but he's from around my way and I've seen him up close and I can tell you he's a first rate referee and a very well liked and respected man.

https://youtu.be/XYFqt_NZW4Y

It does happen occasionally, the referee has the final say on stopping any fight, quite rightly. There's a famous one a few years ago when Mickey Vann refused to stop a fight that was way worse than this event and the lad took about 4 more rounds.
Pretty sure that was Earl Vs Katsidas. Earl ended up knocking him down after the towel was thrown out by Vann but still went on to get stopped.

jules_s

4,291 posts

234 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Fury Wilder 3 presser makes good viewing :lol:

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Fury said he is coming in heavier, 300lb+.

Dont think many will be backing Wilder to win after that presser. The impression is that this is a big pay cheque to retire on.

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 16th June 08:02

rastapasta

1,865 posts

139 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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hyphen said:
Fury said he is coming in heavier, 300lb+.

Dont think many will be backing Wilder to win after that presser. The impression is that this is a big pay cheque to retire on.

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 16th June 08:02
yeap 100% agree.

ThisInJapanese

10,921 posts

227 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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rastapasta said:
hyphen said:
Fury said he is coming in heavier, 300lb+.

Dont think many will be backing Wilder to win after that presser. The impression is that this is a big pay cheque to retire on.

Edited by hyphen on Wednesday 16th June 08:02
yeap 100% agree.
It was very strange, I only saw the 'highlights', did Wilder say anything at all?

ajprice

27,522 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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jules_s said:
Fury Wilder 3 presser makes good viewing :lol:

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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ThisInJapanese said:
It was very strange, I only saw the 'highlights', did Wilder say anything at all?
Yes, at the start he spoke for 20 seconds. Something about how he was going to kick furys ass and so we should all be signing up to the PPV.

And that was it, headphones back on.

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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he's lost his mind, wilder to get KO'd in the first round imo

wouldn't be surprised if he just goes out swinging then gets countered

fridaypassion

8,581 posts

229 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Wilders last fight I reckon

jules_s

4,291 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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fridaypassion said:
Wilders last fight I reckon
One or both of them's last fight I reckon


fridaypassion

8,581 posts

229 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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jules_s said:
One or both of them's last fight I reckon
You may have a point

BobsPigeon

749 posts

40 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Wilder's a very odd character. I can't see Fury losing this, but you just never know with these guys, anything can happen and Fury has had bad days at the office before.

biggbn

23,446 posts

221 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Fury wants to be 300lb. That's 21.5 stone or so. I dont think he needs all that weight for Wilder unless he thinks it will help his punch resistance. He was way to light for Wallen, I think a bit of weight doesn't harm him, but 300lb is, as Brian Glover said in American Werewolf in London, still too 'eavy....

jules_s

4,291 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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biggbn said:
Fury wants to be 300lb. That's 21.5 stone or so. I dont think he needs all that weight for Wilder unless he thinks it will help his punch resistance. He was way to light for Wallen, I think a bit of weight doesn't harm him, but 300lb is, as Brian Glover said in American Werewolf in London, still too 'eavy....
I took that as a bluff tbh - he looks out of shape (as usual) and I'm pretty sure he contradicted/lied about his current training regime

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Also didn't see any mention of it, so for anyone who missed it; Povetkin announced his retirement the other day.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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biggbn said:
Fury wants to be 300lb. That's 21.5 stone or so. I dont think he needs all that weight for Wilder unless he thinks it will help his punch resistance. He was way to light for Wallen, I think a bit of weight doesn't harm him, but 300lb is, as Brian Glover said in American Werewolf in London, still too 'eavy....
Fury looked in great shape when he beat Wlad, good shape for FW2, but at this press conference 5 weeks away from fight night, he doesn't look heavy, he looks badly out of shape IMO. More like he did in his first "comeback fight". I watched the highlights again yesterday of FW2, couldn't believe how low Wilder held his gloves, literally at waist height. Sure Fury threw a few good body shots, but most of the pressure and pain was going to the head. Crazy if he's that open again. What Wilder needed was some tough love from a seasoned trainer, but I think he's opted for a yes-man who tells him he's the greatest. If he loses then it's a final payday, but if he manages to win.....can you imagine?

biggbn

23,446 posts

221 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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ThePackMan said:
biggbn said:
Fury wants to be 300lb. That's 21.5 stone or so. I dont think he needs all that weight for Wilder unless he thinks it will help his punch resistance. He was way to light for Wallen, I think a bit of weight doesn't harm him, but 300lb is, as Brian Glover said in American Werewolf in London, still too 'eavy....
Fury looked in great shape when he beat Wlad, good shape for FW2, but at this press conference 5 weeks away from fight night, he doesn't look heavy, he looks badly out of shape IMO. More like he did in his first "comeback fight". I watched the highlights again yesterday of FW2, couldn't believe how low Wilder held his gloves, literally at waist height. Sure Fury threw a few good body shots, but most of the pressure and pain was going to the head. Crazy if he's that open again. What Wilder needed was some tough love from a seasoned trainer, but I think he's opted for a yes-man who tells him he's the greatest. If he loses then it's a final payday, but if he manages to win.....can you imagine?
I think he is one of those anomalous fighters whose performance can't be judged by his physical ability. His father maintains he is a 19st plus fighter and he looked physically Bob on against Wallen yet this was his worst performance for a good while. He is a big man, not a muscle man, but I have noticed he has that old man strength a younger man shouldn't have. He handles much more physically imposing fighter in the clinch with little problems, he knows how to use his physicality.

BobsPigeon

749 posts

40 months

Thursday 17th June 2021
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biggbn said:
I think he is one of those anomalous fighters whose performance can't be judged by his physical ability. His father maintains he is a 19st plus fighter and he looked physically Bob on against Wallen yet this was his worst performance for a good while. He is a big man, not a muscle man, but I have noticed he has that old man strength a younger man shouldn't have. He handles much more physically imposing fighter in the clinch with little problems, he knows how to use his physicality.
I think that's probably a centre of gravity thing, the big guys with huge shoulders, biceps and backs are a bit top heavy making them a bit easier to move around maybe? Fury's weight is definately a bit more central.
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