Ashes Cricket 2019
Discussion
Last hour TMS is up there on BBC Sounds just as for the World Cup final.
Also TMS always have the presenter from the winning country to do the final commentary. Noted they had both Aggers and Jim up there at the end.
Can't wait for the Tailenders podcast. Nomination for Leachy as Tailender of the decade from me.
Being recorded this morning, emergency podcast!
Also TMS always have the presenter from the winning country to do the final commentary. Noted they had both Aggers and Jim up there at the end.
Can't wait for the Tailenders podcast. Nomination for Leachy as Tailender of the decade from me.
Being recorded this morning, emergency podcast!
Edited by FiF on Monday 26th August 11:13
DukeDickson said:
Leithen said:
Good article by Greg Baum In The Sydney Morning Herald.
Yet still the obligatory dig about where Stokes was born, while conveniently ignoring the home record on that front. Fine if you're cleaner than a vicar's joke, but best not to mention if you're not.suthol said:
The good news for your guys is that a winning team never gets changed and you have your new Monty to hold up an end forever 
Meanwhile we lost so will make changes and bring Smith back in and possibly Starc to do the mopping up of the lower order
Who's the Saffa gonna replace when Smith comes back?Meanwhile we lost so will make changes and bring Smith back in and possibly Starc to do the mopping up of the lower order
It was a great match. I've watched the day 4 highlights 3 times now.
It was a shame to see the Hope and joy wiped off their little faces.
A shame ratty fumbled the stumping at the end. Just not a big match player I suppose. I was laughing my arse off. Bet you were too.
Rather than dropping Roy, or pushing him further down the order, instead I've promoted Bairstow to try out their successful ODI opening partnership, and given the gloves to Buttler. I've kept a Woakes or Curran as the all-rounder at 7, as there's still a question mark over Jimmy's fitness, and I don't want to be a bowler short for half the match, again. Leach moves up the order to 9.
Roy
Bairstow
Burns or Denly
Root
Stokes
Buttler (wk)
Woakes or Curran
Archer
Leach
Broad
Anderson
Roy
Bairstow
Burns or Denly
Root
Stokes
Buttler (wk)
Woakes or Curran
Archer
Leach
Broad
Anderson
I had TMS on while scraping rust of the bottom of my GTV, had to come in the house as the end got closer to concentrate. Back in 1981 I was listening to the TMS in a Geography lesson - as was the whole class, the Geog teacher was Cricket mad which helped.
It's interesting that the skills needed for one day Cricket have been (rightly) getting blamed for the failure of some players - e.g Roy; these are not compatible with the requirements of test cricket. Would Stokes have been able to get those runs playing traditional test style batting? I guess it comes down to the ability of the player to adapt to the needs of the moment - clearly something Stokes did with that knock.
It's interesting that the skills needed for one day Cricket have been (rightly) getting blamed for the failure of some players - e.g Roy; these are not compatible with the requirements of test cricket. Would Stokes have been able to get those runs playing traditional test style batting? I guess it comes down to the ability of the player to adapt to the needs of the moment - clearly something Stokes did with that knock.
I was there yesterday, watched the highlights this morning and I still couldn't believe we were going to win from there!
Superb atmosphere, the Western Terrace really gave the Edgbaston Hollies a run for its money. The support was genuinely incredible all the way through.
At lunch I thought we had a good chance with Bairstow and Stokes, then like everyone else once Buttler was run out I thought that was it. The real turning point in terms of belief for me was the over from Hazlewood, always a risk as there is so much pace on the ball if Stokes connected it was always going to fly.
I was still worried we were going to fall agonisingly short, obviously the run out but then the rejected lbw appeal left Leach on strike against Cummins when one run behind. For what it's worth I'm not convinced the lbw decision was such a howler, the ball could have been sliding down and there was very little time after the ball pitching for Wilson to judge the turn. More importantly, everyone in the ground could see that Paine's review on Leach was never out, just didn't look out even from side on, clearly leg side.
Altogether an unbelievable feat to witness, sport really is fantastic.
Superb atmosphere, the Western Terrace really gave the Edgbaston Hollies a run for its money. The support was genuinely incredible all the way through.
At lunch I thought we had a good chance with Bairstow and Stokes, then like everyone else once Buttler was run out I thought that was it. The real turning point in terms of belief for me was the over from Hazlewood, always a risk as there is so much pace on the ball if Stokes connected it was always going to fly.
I was still worried we were going to fall agonisingly short, obviously the run out but then the rejected lbw appeal left Leach on strike against Cummins when one run behind. For what it's worth I'm not convinced the lbw decision was such a howler, the ball could have been sliding down and there was very little time after the ball pitching for Wilson to judge the turn. More importantly, everyone in the ground could see that Paine's review on Leach was never out, just didn't look out even from side on, clearly leg side.
Altogether an unbelievable feat to witness, sport really is fantastic.
epicfail said:
I had TMS on while scraping rust of the bottom of my GTV, had to come in the house as the end got closer to concentrate. Back in 1981 I was listening to the TMS in a Geography lesson - as was the whole class, the Geog teacher was Cricket mad which helped.
It's interesting that the skills needed for one day Cricket have been (rightly) getting blamed for the failure of some players - e.g Roy; these are not compatible with the requirements of test cricket. Would Stokes have been able to get those runs playing traditional test style batting? I guess it comes down to the ability of the player to adapt to the needs of the moment - clearly something Stokes did with that knock.
That’s what stokes did really well, scored at a low rate in the first session, ramped it up later, then made sure he was on strike with careful shots and runs etc. It was a bit of everything plus loads of luck. It's interesting that the skills needed for one day Cricket have been (rightly) getting blamed for the failure of some players - e.g Roy; these are not compatible with the requirements of test cricket. Would Stokes have been able to get those runs playing traditional test style batting? I guess it comes down to the ability of the player to adapt to the needs of the moment - clearly something Stokes did with that knock.
What the highlights and news don’t really cover was the feeling in commentary press boxes and the media etc that England didn’t have a hope.
You could see it in the interviews from the Australians’ after England’s first innings and pretty much everyone that England looked completely done for.
It’s not just the getting over 350 in the second innings to win or stokes getting such big score or how he did it but also after getting 60 odd in the first innings. It was so amazing on so many levels.
thegreenhell said:
Rather than dropping Roy, or pushing him further down the order, instead I've promoted Bairstow to try out their successful ODI opening partnership, and given the gloves to Buttler. I've kept a Woakes or Curran as the all-rounder at 7, as there's still a question mark over Jimmy's fitness, and I don't want to be a bowler short for half the match, again. Leach moves up the order to 9.
Roy
Bairstow
Burns or Denly
Root
Stokes
Buttler (wk)
Woakes or Curran
Archer
Leach
Broad
Anderson
That’s either 8 or 9 changes to the batting order...that’s not happening. Bairstow is not a test match opener...he goes at the ball pretty hard with “hard hands” not what you want opening the batting against an attack like Australia’s. Roy
Bairstow
Burns or Denly
Root
Stokes
Buttler (wk)
Woakes or Curran
Archer
Leach
Broad
Anderson
Gargamel said:
Come on chaps - its England Selectors we are talking about.
The coach is two matches away from retiring and we just saved/won a match
Anderson will come in, that will be it. I think Woakes misses out. I don’t think they will mess with the top 5. We will see.
I am no expert on county circlet but it seems to me that there is no one beating the door down to replace the current crop AND everyone seems to accept that Roy is being made to do a job that he isn't equipped for.The coach is two matches away from retiring and we just saved/won a match
Anderson will come in, that will be it. I think Woakes misses out. I don’t think they will mess with the top 5. We will see.
I'd definitely have Buttler behind the stumps.
Anderson has to come back and so that's a long tail.
suthol said:
The good news for your guys is that a winning team never gets changed and you have your new Monty to hold up an end forever
Meanwhile we lost so will make changes and bring Smith back in and possibly Starc to do the mopping up of the lower order
Struth Suthol, you're still alive! You must be the last one left from the '48 tour!Meanwhile we lost so will make changes and bring Smith back in and possibly Starc to do the mopping up of the lower order
I hope that the Nurse isn't letting you get too excited mate.
zygalski said:
Who's the Saffa gonna replace when Smith comes back?
It was a great match. I've watched the day 4 highlights 3 times now.
It was a shame to see the Hope and joy wiped off their little faces.
A shame ratty fumbled the stumping at the end. Just not a big match player I suppose. I was laughing my arse off. Bet you were too.
That Saffa has been in Oz since the age of 2 and is a product of our system much the same as Stokes is of yours.It was a great match. I've watched the day 4 highlights 3 times now.
It was a shame to see the Hope and joy wiped off their little faces.
A shame ratty fumbled the stumping at the end. Just not a big match player I suppose. I was laughing my arse off. Bet you were too.
From you feeble attempt at name calling humour I'm guessing you're still too young to legally drive a car or have a beer.
At the end of our 2nd innings I said right here that I didn't think we had enough runs which turned out to be correct, there are still two tests to go and I doubt our boys will get the yips like that again, hopefully the last two are decent games of cricket with interest right until the end
unrepentant said:
Struth Suthol, you're still alive! You must be the last one left from the '48 tour!
I hope that the Nurse isn't letting you get too excited mate.
Good to see you here Unrep you've been quiet and until yesterday arvo I can understand why.I hope that the Nurse isn't letting you get too excited mate.
Not quite that old but now having 7 at the front of the birthday numbers means the coming season will be my last.
Currently sitting on 895 wickets and just over 4000 runs in the local comp, don't expect much of a change if any in those numbers
Will continue to coach though, I've got a few rather sharp quicks that I've been working with for the last couple of years
The Don of Croy said:
A fabulous summer of cricket entertainment...
Have put in the request that my niece (who 'sprogged' last Thursday) makes the necessary change to the birth certificate for 'Stokes Michael Harris' forthwith.
I have to agree that Lord Stokes of Headingley has played rather well throughout.Have put in the request that my niece (who 'sprogged' last Thursday) makes the necessary change to the birth certificate for 'Stokes Michael Harris' forthwith.
desolate said:
I am no expert on county circlet but it seems to me that there is no one beating the door down to replace the current crop AND everyone seems to accept that Roy is being made to do a job that he isn't equipped for.
I'd definitely have Buttler behind the stumps.
Anderson has to come back and so that's a long tail.
I was chatting to a guy who coaches the U17 side for a First Class county on Sat. He just doesn’t think it will change in terms of producing test match style batsmen unfortunately. Bizarrely at that age they play three day games which are 105 overs a day but as they get older there’s less emphasis.I'd definitely have Buttler behind the stumps.
Anderson has to come back and so that's a long tail.
Personally I don’t think they should just drop Roy. Hugely talented...10 days of nets isn’t going to transform him but hopefully they’ll be working hard.
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