Cricket - England Winter Tour - NZ & SA

Cricket - England Winter Tour - NZ & SA

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spikeyhead

17,378 posts

198 months

Monday 27th January 2020
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A satisfactory tour

Murph7355

37,783 posts

257 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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FredericRobinson said:
SA might have been rubbish, but to win an overseas series 3-1 from 1 down having lost your number one opening bat, number one opening bowler and number one spinner is a hell of an achievement
Agreed it was a good result.

Being the dour soul I am, I'm predicting nothing at the moment. Root's teams have form for this sort of bounce only to rest on their laurels for the next one. Let's see...

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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I think Joe Root is starting to develop his captaincy, there is clear evidence of better decision making at work. He also has options now, which he arguably lacked before, so he has a choice of batsmen, a choice of seamers and proper selection of spinners.

That patient application of pressure in the field when the wickets just wouldn't fall yesterday was a far cry from our team performance last year when heads would go down at the first sign that the wicket had flattened out.

Leithen

10,988 posts

268 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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I think it's more important that Chris Silverwood appears to be settling into his role and has squad choices. Something many of his predecessors have not had.

The tensions between the Counties and central contracts and the short vs long form of the game continue, but he's doing a good job.

Fordmoore

30 posts

56 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
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Murph7355 said:
Agreed it was a good result.

Being the dour soul I am, I'm predicting nothing at the moment. Root's teams have form for this sort of bounce only to rest on their laurels for the next one. Let's see...

Either way, i believe there is more of a togetherness at the moment within the squad and there is fresh young talent coming through. Really enjoying watching the cricket at the moment, and as an avid Football fan, I am swaying towards following cricket more so than Football.

jbswagger

754 posts

202 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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First ODI has started.


Gargamel

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15,022 posts

262 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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jbswagger said:
First ODI has started.
At 83 - 4 we aren’t quite hitting the WC high notes.

Roy and Bairstow hit loads in the last warm up, so I was hoping for something more crushing.

In Denny we trust...

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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No Stokes, no Buttler. Don’t feel too bad if we don’t win this.

Gargamel

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15,022 posts

262 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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warch said:
No Stokes, no Buttler. Don’t feel too bad if we don’t win this.
Its traditionally a slow pitch, so a low scorer could still make a good contest.

Jay500

87 posts

140 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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They are making it look easy though!

thegreenhell

15,508 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Need wickets soon or this game is gone.

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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That's a really strange bowling lineup too. South Africa really can't lose from here.

Gargamel

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15,022 posts

262 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Yep a pretty bad day all round, but a changed side with lots of new faces.

Bowling unit more at fault than batting I would say. Curran remains pretty easy to hit when it doesn’t swing.

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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That was too much of a weakened side for me to be all bothered about the outcome. Shame really, I thought the idea was to play our best squad in these sorts of games, especially as we're the World Cup holders? That bowling attack was all at sea. No Moeen, Rashid, Woods, Plunkett or Archer, and no Buttler or Stokes.

Leicester Loyal

4,560 posts

123 months

Tuesday 4th February 2020
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Weird selection, there were too many players rested for my liking, needed a couple more senior members. A well deserved loss though all the same.

Gargamel

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15,022 posts

262 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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warch said:
That was too much of a weakened side for me to be all bothered about the outcome. Shame really, I thought the idea was to play our best squad in these sorts of games, especially as we're the World Cup holders? That bowling attack was all at sea. No Moeen, Rashid, Woods, Plunkett or Archer, and no Buttler or Stokes.
It is, but this series for whatever reason is not included in the ODI rankings. So gave the management a chance to look at a few new faces. I don't like it either.

Perhaps its ok on a long tour, but I'd be annoyed as a ticket payer to pay to watch such a depleted team.

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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I can see the point in playing a few new faces in a friendly but that must’ve been rather dispiriting for the newbies, especially that hopeless bowling performance.

Cheib

23,301 posts

176 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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warch said:
I can see the point in playing a few new faces in a friendly but that must’ve been rather dispiriting for the newbies, especially that hopeless bowling performance.
The bowlers were always going to struggle....batting line up fked it. They twice lost “wickets in pairs” which is a disaster especially when it’s your Top 4 batsmen involved. Really poor. Still the one I ask excited to see develop is Banton, Vaughan was talking about him the other day on TMS Podcast...Darren Lehman reckons he is the best player he has ever done thrown downs to in the nets! That’s an incredible statement.

Leicester Loyal

4,560 posts

123 months

Friday 7th February 2020
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England win the toss and choose to bowl. Rain has delayed the start, so 45 overs each. The team remains unchanged.

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Friday 7th February 2020
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Are we saving Moeen for the 20/20 matches then? I'd definitely want him in both limited overs line ups.