Golf - 2020

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SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Hobo said:
Went around in 102 (it's a par 71), which to be pair I wasn't that upset about taking into account the time I've been playing, and the fact I only used irons again (ie didn't use the driver, 5 wood or hybrid as just not confident enough with them yet). I'm practising with the 5 wood currently and should be ok with it soon, and have a lesson with the driver next week. The reality being I need to be able to hit longer off the tee as when playing holes 400 yards+ (par 4's) & 500 yards+ (par 5's) I need to be able to reach in 2 & 3 respectively to have any chance of lowering my score, and can't currently do this with the longest club I'm currently hitting which is a 5 iron. Puttings pretty good, although the surface has like glass at the last course which took some getting used to.

I'm looking at joining Headingley as its relatively close to me, and thought it was great. Have to go see them today with my application form as don't know anyone up there to propose & second me.

Treat myself to a Garmin S62 today as well smile
Excellent progress, well done. Playing to bogey means shooting 90, so don't get too worried about not reaching greens in regulation. Keeping the disasters off the card is the most important thing.

Having one 10 on the card means you need 4-5 pars to cancel it out. That's where cards get wrecked, not on the difference between being 50 yards out or 100 yards out after 2.

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

63 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Hobo said:
As a newbie (now approx. 4 months into playing) I've been playing at various courses as have no 'home' so to speak. Played Headingley Golf Club last weekend and it was immaculate;





Went around in 102 (it's a par 71), which to be pair I wasn't that upset about taking into account the time I've been playing, and the fact I only used irons again (ie didn't use the driver, 5 wood or hybrid as just not confident enough with them yet). I'm practising with the 5 wood currently and should be ok with it soon, and have a lesson with the driver next week. The reality being I need to be able to hit longer off the tee as when playing holes 400 yards+ (par 4's) & 500 yards+ (par 5's) I need to be able to reach in 2 & 3 respectively to have any chance of lowering my score, and can't currently do this with the longest club I'm currently hitting which is a 5 iron. Puttings pretty good, although the surface has like glass at the last course which took some getting used to.

I'm looking at joining Headingley as its relatively close to me, and thought it was great. Have to go see them today with my application form as don't know anyone up there to propose & second me.

Treat myself to a Garmin S62 today as well smile
Lovely course.

There is no need to try and hit long par 4s and 5s in 2 or 3 shots, especially when playing off a higher handicap.
Play long par 4s as a par 5 and take all the pressure off yourself.

This guy has some very dood videos that are worth watching. He can be a bit annoying at times but the advice on course management is generally sound.
https://www.youtube.com/c/GolfSidekick

Hobo

5,764 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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CustardOnChips said:
Lovely course.

There is no need to try and hit long par 4s and 5s in 2 or 3 shots, especially when playing off a higher handicap.
Play long par 4s as a par 5 and take all the pressure off yourself.

This guy has some very dood videos that are worth watching. He can be a bit annoying at times but the advice on course management is generally sound.
https://www.youtube.com/c/GolfSidekick
I fully appreciate what you (and Jim) are saying. I generally am pretty happy with how its going, and am confortable going onto most courses, but know I'm likely to no be setting the world on fire. That said, I want to improve, as don't want to be high handicap forever, and to do so know I need to be able to hit the ball further off the tee.

Assuming I (am allowed) to join headingley then the hole distances are;

1 - 391 (par 4)
2 - 407 (par 4)
3 - 412 (par 4)
4 - 349 (par 4)
5 - 404 (par 5)
6 - 177 (par 3)
7 - 552 (par 5)
8 - 499 (par 5)
9 - 406 (par 4)
10 - 173 (par 3)
11 - 386 (par 4)
12 - 456 (par 4)
13 - 148 (par 3)
14 - 505 (par 5)
15 - 439 (par 4)
16 - 439 (par 4)
17 - 174 (par 3)
18 - 337 (par 4)

Obviously from the above, there isn't a par 4 which I could get on if I took (and hit well) two 5 irons. I just think to give myself a fighting change of getting my score down I need to be able to hit a 225 yard shot in regulation, which I assume will be a 5 wood. If I can then take driver now and again where it suits, even better.

I need to improve, and fully appreciate my short game and putting are key, but need to have options.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Hobo said:
CustardOnChips said:
Lovely course.

There is no need to try and hit long par 4s and 5s in 2 or 3 shots, especially when playing off a higher handicap.
Play long par 4s as a par 5 and take all the pressure off yourself.

This guy has some very dood videos that are worth watching. He can be a bit annoying at times but the advice on course management is generally sound.
https://www.youtube.com/c/GolfSidekick
I fully appreciate what you (and Jim) are saying. I generally am pretty happy with how its going, and am confortable going onto most courses, but know I'm likely to no be setting the world on fire. That said, I want to improve, as don't want to be high handicap forever, and to do so know I need to be able to hit the ball further off the tee.

Assuming I (am allowed) to join headingley then the hole distances are;

1 - 391 (par 4)
2 - 407 (par 4)
3 - 412 (par 4)
4 - 349 (par 4)
5 - 404 (par 5)
6 - 177 (par 3)
7 - 552 (par 5)
8 - 499 (par 5)
9 - 406 (par 4)
10 - 173 (par 3)
11 - 386 (par 4)
12 - 456 (par 4)
13 - 148 (par 3)
14 - 505 (par 5)
15 - 439 (par 4)
16 - 439 (par 4)
17 - 174 (par 3)
18 - 337 (par 4)

Obviously from the above, there isn't a par 4 which I could get on if I took (and hit well) two 5 irons. I just think to give myself a fighting change of getting my score down I need to be able to hit a 225 yard shot in regulation, which I assume will be a 5 wood. If I can then take driver now and again where it suits, even better.

I need to improve, and fully appreciate my short game and putting are key, but need to have options.
Fair points. I'd say to try this: Play a round with two balls. One ball only gets 5i and shorter. The other ball gets the big dog when the opportunity arises.

I bet 5 iron ball beats the other one.


CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

63 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Hobo said:
I fully appreciate what you (and Jim) are saying. I generally am pretty happy with how its going, and am confortable going onto most courses, but know I'm likely to no be setting the world on fire. That said, I want to improve, as don't want to be high handicap forever, and to do so know I need to be able to hit the ball further off the tee.

Assuming I (am allowed) to join headingley then the hole distances are;

1 - 391 (par 4)
2 - 407 (par 4)
3 - 412 (par 4)
4 - 349 (par 4)
5 - 404 (par 5)
6 - 177 (par 3)
7 - 552 (par 5)
8 - 499 (par 5)
9 - 406 (par 4)
10 - 173 (par 3)
11 - 386 (par 4)
12 - 456 (par 4)
13 - 148 (par 3)
14 - 505 (par 5)
15 - 439 (par 4)
16 - 439 (par 4)
17 - 174 (par 3)
18 - 337 (par 4)

Obviously from the above, there isn't a par 4 which I could get on if I took (and hit well) two 5 irons. I just think to give myself a fighting change of getting my score down I need to be able to hit a 225 yard shot in regulation, which I assume will be a 5 wood. If I can then take driver now and again where it suits, even better.

I need to improve, and fully appreciate my short game and putting are key, but need to have options.
That's fair enough.

I would say that the current approach will benifit long term as it's your iron and wedge game that will have the biggest impact on reducing your handicap.

Look at a 3 or 3 hybrid for tee shots. Personally I find them much easier to hit than a 3 or 5 wood. In fact I've just ditched my 3 wood for a 16 degree hybrid.

bodhi

10,526 posts

230 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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CustardOnChips said:
That's fair enough.

I would say that the current approach will benifit long term as it's your iron and wedge game that will have the biggest impact on reducing your handicap.

Look at a 3 or 3 hybrid for tee shots. Personally I find them much easier to hit than a 3 or 5 wood. In fact I've just ditched my 3 wood for a 16 degree hybrid.
Also worth looking at a 4 wood - bit easier to launch and keep straight than a 3 wood, in fact many people find they travel further than a 3 wood due to the ease of launch.

Drivers are fun, but have a habit of getting you into trouble when you least need it. My 2 best rounds this year have featured the fewest drivers, just plotting my way round with my 3 wood and hybrid/long irons.

Hobo

5,764 posts

247 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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CustardOnChips said:
That's fair enough.

I would say that the current approach will benifit long term as it's your iron and wedge game that will have the biggest impact on reducing your handicap.

Look at a 3 or 3 hybrid for tee shots. Personally I find them much easier to hit than a 3 or 5 wood. In fact I've just ditched my 3 wood for a 16 degree hybrid.
Currently have;

9' driver (adjustable either way be 2')
18' 5 wood
25' Hybrid

Reality being, the hybrid was probably a wasted purchase, but didn't really understand that at the time. Should have probably bought the 22' one, but alas I didn't.

Won't be buying anything else for now as spend waayyyy too much already hehe so need to do the best with what I have.

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

63 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Hobo said:
Currently have;

9' driver (adjustable either way be 2')
18' 5 wood
25' Hybrid

Reality being, the hybrid was probably a wasted purchase, but didn't really understand that at the time. Should have probably bought the 22' one, but alas I didn't.

Won't be buying anything else for now as spend waayyyy too much already hehe so need to do the best with what I have.
Sell your hybrid and find something cheap on ebay and have a play. Then sell it on if it doesn't work and try something else. Buying 3/4 year old clubs shouldn't lose you any money other than fees, sometimes you even end up a few quid up. Thats part of the fun biggrin

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

63 months

Friday 2nd October 2020
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Blackpuddin said:
Rosscow said:
I have a Garmin X10 watch, and it's superb. Nice and small so doesn't impede wrist hinge, and very light.

Every time I've played with someone with a laser I've looked at my watch and have been within 5 yards of what they have zapped - and quite often exactly the same.

I'm not that accurate (I wish!) - the watch is much simpler/quicker for me. It also gives distances to all hazards and dog legs. You can also select pin position on the green should you wish.

What more do you need?
Having had a watch as well I'd agree that they're quicker and more convenient to use than rangefinders. Poor signal round my way meant I had to go for the finder. My watch conked out when TomTom fried it with a remote (and unrequested) 'upgrade' through their app.
I'm currently using golfshot which works really well and I haven't suffered with poor signal yet. Sometimes I'm not quite convinced at the yardage it gives. But it usually turns out right.

I'm just getting back into playing after 10 years off or playing once or twice a year. So I'm not sure I'll be accurate enough with my distances to make a range finder worth the money. But who doesn't like a gadget.

Badda

2,673 posts

83 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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bodhi said:
Hehe, think I've offended one of the local Driving Ranges. Went last night to hit a few balls, found their COVID safe stuff to be completely over the top for a driving range (Ball machines out of use so no season ticket discount, only 50/100 balls available, and leave your details in the shop before you spend 45 minutes outside miles away from everyone, a bit of a sneer as I haven't installed the app yet, and generally treated like a plague carrying child), and when I got home Google asked if I wanted to leave a review.

Gave them 3/5 as the facilities are pretty good, but tough to relax in that kind of environment for me - in fact I couldn't wait to get through my bucket and get home. So not great, not terrible. A couple of hours later I get a text from my playing partner, who gets lessons off the owner, asking why I'd given them a "terrible" review! Classy!

Guess I'll go the other one that's operating exactly the same as it did before lockdown, apart from the masks requirement to get your balls from the machine.
Really low to judge a businesses covid measures IMO.

kiethton

13,896 posts

181 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Badda said:
bodhi said:
Hehe, think I've offended one of the local Driving Ranges. Went last night to hit a few balls, found their COVID safe stuff to be completely over the top for a driving range (Ball machines out of use so no season ticket discount, only 50/100 balls available, and leave your details in the shop before you spend 45 minutes outside miles away from everyone, a bit of a sneer as I haven't installed the app yet, and generally treated like a plague carrying child), and when I got home Google asked if I wanted to leave a review.

Gave them 3/5 as the facilities are pretty good, but tough to relax in that kind of environment for me - in fact I couldn't wait to get through my bucket and get home. So not great, not terrible. A couple of hours later I get a text from my playing partner, who gets lessons off the owner, asking why I'd given them a "terrible" review! Classy!

Guess I'll go the other one that's operating exactly the same as it did before lockdown, apart from the masks requirement to get your balls from the machine.
Really low to judge a businesses covid measures IMO.
Not really, the best ones do enough to tick the box and nothing more/play lip service to it.

It’s a big part of the experience tbh, perfectly fair to give honest feedback.

bodhi

10,526 posts

230 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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I was just bemused that 3/5 was seen as a bad review these days, thought it was more average.

Anyway have spoken to our mutual friend, who indicated the COVID policy was set by the shop attached to the range and was little to do with him, so I have removed the review in that case and will just use a different place until we return to some kind of normality. I've had a couple of issues with the service in that particular shop over the years, so happy to give that a swerve.


Badda

2,673 posts

83 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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kiethton said:
Not really, the best ones do enough to tick the box and nothing more/play lip service to it.

It’s a big part of the experience tbh, perfectly fair to give honest feedback.
So you’re happy to penalise clubs who try and be more covid safe? Bizarre logic. Can only assume you’re a bit of a denier.

kiethton

13,896 posts

181 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Badda said:
kiethton said:
Not really, the best ones do enough to tick the box and nothing more/play lip service to it.

It’s a big part of the experience tbh, perfectly fair to give honest feedback.
So you’re happy to penalise clubs who try and be more covid safe? Bizarre logic. Can only assume you’re a bit of a denier.
Yep, it’s a total over-reaction, especially for an outdoor, single person sport.

I get that it’s here but we shouldn’t do anything different - changing our complete way of life over something that’s a day or 2 in bed/at home for all but <1% of people is ridiculous. Doing what I can to register as Mr A N Other or Boris Johnson whenever I’m told I have to...

I’ll save that for another thread though.

Badda

2,673 posts

83 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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kiethton said:
Yep, it’s a total over-reaction.

I get that it’s here but we shouldn’t do anything different - changing our complete way of life over something that’s a day or 2 in bed/at home for all but <1% of people is ridiculous. Doing what I can to register as Mr A N Other or Boris Johnson whenever I’m told I have to...

I’ll save that for another thread though.
As I thought. Please do.

abzmike

8,397 posts

107 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Sounds like a lot of fuss over a bucket of balls.

Blackpuddin

16,542 posts

206 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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I enjoy this thread not just because it's about golf but also because it's free of all the argumentative stuff on many of the other threads. I've got no authority here but speaking just as a punter it would be great to keep it politics-free.

bodhi

10,526 posts

230 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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Blackpuddin said:
I enjoy this thread not just because it's about golf but also because it's free of all the argumentative stuff on many of the other threads. I've got no authority here but speaking just as a punter it would be great to keep it politics-free.
Admittedly that's my fault and I apologise for that, I should have picked another venue to vent about what was really lockdown fatigue - I have deleted the original post. My bad.

Anyway back to golf - anyone manage to play today? We were down to play in the medal first thing, but woke up to find everyone had cancelled, so went to another range and played around with TopTracer. Shot 4 under round the Old Course, which was fun.

Blackpuddin

16,542 posts

206 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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beer

abzmike

8,397 posts

107 months

Saturday 3rd October 2020
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No chance today due to monsoon conditions, what a contrast to yesterday evening. Started at 4.45 and managed 11 holes in glorious autumnal evening sunshine, flat calm and mild. All went swimmingly until a 3put from 15ft on the last cost me the game. Every chance that’s the last nice weather of the year.