Dementia caused by contact in sport.

Dementia caused by contact in sport.

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Portofino

4,286 posts

191 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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I do struggle with all this. The sportsman knows what he is getting in to. If you fly into every tackle, and have a reputation for it, you are going to get hurt. The long term effects are different for each individual.

It’s a st hand to be dealt, I get that, but taking legal action I can’t agree with. Like joining the Army & complaining when you get shot at.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,133 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Portofino said:
I do struggle with all this
Exactly.

In the late 80s I turned down rugby as (I) everyone knew someone who was physically ruined by a lifetime of playing rugby. Hips, shoulders knees for starters. Same with cucussion. The effects of brain injury have been known for many years. Boxers for one. Putting a name on it is just a way of saying 'you caused this'. When in reality the person had a choice. They didn't have to compete, take the punishment.

Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) was first discovered decades ago.

In recent years we've seen ex snowboarders, cyclists etc take their own lives sadly.

CTE is only diagnosed 100% upon death I think?

To answer the above poster- even a few concussion events sets you on the path to CTE.

Hence my comment that I probably face depression etc as I get older.

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Portofino said:
...taking legal action I can’t agree with. Like joining the Army & complaining when you get shot at.
Easy to say that in 2020. Bit different years ago when they didn't have the kind of knowledge they have now, ESPECIALLY when professional sports organisations went out of their way to actively cover-up the evidence they DID have.

CTE was only "discovered" in 2005!

https://concussionfoundation.org/CTE-resources/wha...

Hugo Stiglitz

37,133 posts

211 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Centurion07 said:
Easy to say that in 2020. Bit different years ago when they didn't have the kind of knowledge they have now, ESPECIALLY when professional sports organisations went out of their way to actively cover-up the evidence they DID have.

CTE was only "discovered" in 2005!

https://concussionfoundation.org/CTE-resources/wha...
No that's like saying a new way to diagnose a condition is the original discovery!

It's been refined and studied for decades.

Traditionally it was only 100% founded when the deceased skull was opened and grey deposits found at the front of the skull

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Thursday 19th August 2021
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Centurion07 said:
Easy to say that in 2020. Bit different years ago when they didn't have the kind of knowledge they have now, ESPECIALLY when professional sports organisations went out of their way to actively cover-up the evidence they DID have.

CTE was only "discovered" in 2005!

https://concussionfoundation.org/CTE-resources/wha...
No that's like saying a new way to diagnose a condition is the original discovery!

It's been refined and studied for decades.

Traditionally it was only 100% founded when the deceased skull was opened and grey deposits found at the front of the skull
You know what quotation marks mean when used in that way, right...? rolleyes


concussion site I linked said:
A Brief History of CTE

CTE was first described in 1928, when Dr. Harrison Martland described a group of boxers as having “punch drunk syndrome.” Over the next 75 years, several researchers reported similar findings in boxers and other victims of brain trauma, but fewer than 50 cases were confirmed. In 2005, a pathologist named Bennet Omalu published the first evidence of CTE in an American football player: former Pittsburgh Steeler Mike Webster. The publication caught the attention of CLF co-founder Dr. Chris Nowinski, who envisioned the world’s first athlete brain bank. Nowinski began reaching out to the families of NFL players and other athletes who had recently passed away to arrange brain donation. He and Dr. Robert Cantu soon founded the Concussion Legacy Foundation and partnered with Boston University and the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to form the VA-BU-CLF Brain Bank, led by Dr. Ann McKee. The Brain Bank has revolutionized how we understand the disease, with more than 1,000 brains donated, about two-thirds of which have been found to have CTE.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/58369271


I'm sure there are various caveats that need to be applied etc.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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On a side note , this must surely put an end to the ridiculous premise that tran identifying men can compete against women in women’s sports ? Especially contact sports.

MC Bodge

21,628 posts

175 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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Iwantafusca said:
On a side note , this must surely put an end to the ridiculous premise that tran identifying men can compete against women in women’s sports ? Especially contact sports.
A completely different can-of-worms that you should put the lid back onto and bury.