six nations 2021

[steveT350C]

Nigel Owens on two tries that should not have been...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/artic...

[Blue62]

DocJock said:

It constantly amazes me when people just make stuff up. Juggling a pass reception involves regaining control of the ball. You are incorrect, hitting his leg is not regaining control. It is the same situation as accidentally dropping the ball and kicking it before it hits the ground, that is still a knock on. The Laws, and particularly the definitions, make no mention of 'alive'.

I'm amazed that those international level refs don't know the law. I would rightly have expected a bking at lowly Grade 5 for that cock-up.

ps, Nigel Owens agrees

Putting that to one side, it’s hard to understand why the in time, on field decision was a try. In real time it looked a clear knock on but the ref gave the try to the obvious consternation of all involved, he was either having a bad day or he’s bent.

[irocfan]

steveT350C said:

Nigel Owens on two tries that should not have been...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/artic...

Oi, didn't give the obligatory apology.

[Boom78]

768 said:

Boom78 said:

I see itoje is getting a mullering in the player ratings today but I think he’s superb, proper nuisance and only player in white really trying.

Take his penalties away and there can be no talk of England's discipline being the issue yesterday. I assume he gave away the most penalties, or at least the ref gave most against him.

I agree though, I think he's probably the best second row I've ever seen, one of the best players full stop. I even don't think he needs to change his game, some of those decisions against him were pretty borderline.

I see him and AWJ being locked in as lions test 2nd row pairing if it happens. AWJ is timing form perfectly, immense work rate, involved in everything, bottom of every ruck and a great calming influence as captain

[steveT350C]

irocfan said:

steveT350C said:

Nigel Owens on two tries that should not have been...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/artic...

Oi, didn't give the obligatory apology.

[Welshbeef]

Triple crown.

3 wins out of 3 & 14 championship points

Given IRB standings I think England will slip from 3rd to 4th after this result & Wales jump from 7th to 5th.

North played very well

Italy next & you’d have to assume 5 BP championship points from that game for Wales so 19 points for Wales.

Key games are France v Scotland, France v England and Wales v France.

[Joey Ramone]

England just don’t know how to win games. They think it’s just about scoring points. Whereas it’s about applying pressure patiently and consistently without needless errors. It’s about mistake free rugby. It’s about playing like professionals paid hundreds of thousands of pounds a year who should know that entering a ruck from the side, changing your binding in a maul, or turning your back on an opposition scrum half when he’s just been awarded a pen 10 yds from the try line, are the things that you just don’t do at this level. Unfortunately England are blessed with a bunch of clueless muppets in this regard.

People wonder why the AB’s have such a remarkable win record. It’s nothing really to do with flash skills. It has always been about doing the right things at the right time, doing them relentlessly well, and making as few mistakes as possible in the process.

[XCP]

I don't think England have played a decent game since they beat the ABs in the World Cup. There needs to be a radical rethink, picking more than 10 players who have played Rugby this season would be a start.

[C70R]

Well, this thread got really unpleasant.

[Boom78]

XCP said:

I don't think England have played a decent game since they beat the ABs in the World Cup. There needs to be a radical rethink, picking more than 10 players who have played Rugby this season would be a start.

Yup, don’t get the logic, pick on form, selecting a load of players who haven’t even played just because they established old guard is nonsense. England have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to players. Select the best players actually playing.

[Welshbeef]

C70R said:

Well, this thread got really unpleasant.

Sadly trolls (assume English) battered the BBC sports interviewer following her challenging Farrell interview.....

[abzmike]

Welshbeef said:

Triple crown.

Key games are France v Scotland, France v England and Wales v France.

Seeing the remarks from the French sports minister, there may not be any more France games. They were under special exemption to travel outside the EU and premumably host visitors, and having burst thier bubble, so to speak, may have the exemption withdrawn.

[julianm]

Had a look at Wales Online this morning as they always offer an unbiased opinion on the Wales England game.
There is some Twitter stuff about a Genge headbutt near the end of the game but footage isn't that clear. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-ne...

[anonymous-user]

Welsh (and Scotland still) are loving it and rightly so, everyone loves beating England and more teams are doing it at the moment. That’s what the six nations is about, a bit of old rivalry and the chance of sticking it to your usually dominant neighbour.

[The Mad Monk]

abzmike said:

Seeing the remarks from the French sports minister, there may not be any more France games. They were under special exemption to travel outside the EU and premumably host visitors, and having burst thier bubble, so to speak, may have the exemption withdrawn.

https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12508/12230246/six-nations-french-sports-minister-threatens-france-withdrawal-over-covid-19-outbreak

[anonymous-user]

The Mad Monk said:

abzmike said:

Seeing the remarks from the French sports minister, there may not be any more France games. They were under special exemption to travel outside the EU and premumably host visitors, and having burst thier bubble, so to speak, may have the exemption withdrawn.

https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12508/12230246/six-nations-french-sports-minister-threatens-france-withdrawal-over-covid-19-outbreak

Looks like their whole bubble hasn’t worked well.

Presumably there’s a doubt about their next matches also regardless of the complications of rescheduling of the Scotland game.

[Murph7355]

Boom78 said:

XCP said:

I don't think England have played a decent game since they beat the ABs in the World Cup. There needs to be a radical rethink, picking more than 10 players who have played Rugby this season would be a start.

Yup, don’t get the logic, pick on form, selecting a load of players who haven’t even played just because they established old guard is nonsense. England have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to players. Select the best players actually playing.

I've been pondering English sport over the last few days with the cricket going as it has, and I think this problem applies across rugby, football and cricket here at the moment.

And I suspect that is causing issues with the mindset of the players that get picked - I'd never really regarded our players as "arrogant", but I'm sensing that is creeping in. Is there a feeling they won't be dropped and so the intensity of competition for their place isn't there?

[Boom78]

julianm said:

Had a look at Wales Online this morning as they always offer an unbiased opinion on the Wales England game.
There is some Twitter stuff about a Genge headbutt near the end of the game but footage isn't that clear. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-ne...

Not the greatest of footage but it doesn’t look Genge, what a plum!

[biggbn]

I thought England were very unlucky and the result flattered the Welsh hugely. What a strange tournament this has been so far.

[TheGreatSoprendo]

julianm said:

Had a look at Wales Online this morning as they always offer an unbiased opinion on the Wales England game.
There is some Twitter stuff about a Genge headbutt near the end of the game but footage isn't that clear. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-ne...

I agree, the footage of that incident doesn't look conclusive. There is another incident where Genge slams the Welsh players (Rhodri Jones I think) head into the ground which doesn't look great from him

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=102171...