Emma Raducanu

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g4ry13

17,117 posts

256 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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swisstoni said:
HTP99 said:
Love the optimism in this thread, if I was into my tennis, I would have given up on her ages ago!!
Yet somewhere inside her is the ability to win 9 straight matches to win a US Open.
That’s what makes her interesting.
Against some rather uncompetitive players and managing to play an absolute nobody in the final for a slam.

It was an unlikely scenario and set of circumstances AKA a fluke.

Emma has made her money, got the fame, riches and honours. There's no drive, no mental fortitude to persevere through hardship and will never win another slam or crack into the top 10.

She has done well to set herself up for life and able to say she has won a slam and that will be the pinnacle of her career.

swisstoni

17,105 posts

280 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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Says a nobody.

Last Visit

2,858 posts

189 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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g4ry13 said:
Against some rather uncompetitive players and managing to play an absolute nobody in the final for a slam.

It was an unlikely scenario and set of circumstances AKA a fluke.

Emma has made her money, got the fame, riches and honours. There's no drive, no mental fortitude to persevere through hardship and will never win another slam or crack into the top 10.

She has done well to set herself up for life and able to say she has won a slam and that will be the pinnacle of her career.
Yep, I agree with all of that.


nickfrog

21,303 posts

218 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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g4ry13 said:
Against some rather uncompetitive players and managing to play an absolute nobody in the final for a slam.

It was an unlikely scenario and set of circumstances AKA a fluke.

Emma has made her money, got the fame, riches and honours. There's no drive, no mental fortitude to persevere through hardship and will never win another slam or crack into the top 10.

She has done well to set herself up for life and able to say she has won a slam and that will be the pinnacle of her career.
That sounds very harsh. Unnecessarily so even. Difficult to predict the future. Even on PH.

g4ry13

17,117 posts

256 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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nickfrog said:
g4ry13 said:
Against some rather uncompetitive players and managing to play an absolute nobody in the final for a slam.

It was an unlikely scenario and set of circumstances AKA a fluke.

Emma has made her money, got the fame, riches and honours. There's no drive, no mental fortitude to persevere through hardship and will never win another slam or crack into the top 10.

She has done well to set herself up for life and able to say she has won a slam and that will be the pinnacle of her career.
That sounds very harsh. Unnecessarily so even. Difficult to predict the future. Even on PH.
You can check back on the prediction and see for yourself.

I also expect her to retire in the next 5 years. I don't see her playing into her late 20s /early 30s trying to scrape into the big tournaments.

I actually expect her to be presenting / commentating on Wimbledon before she's 30.

S600BSB

4,828 posts

107 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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Why is she so injury prone?

RichB

51,717 posts

285 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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swisstoni said:
UTH said:
Some sports stars do just spend more of their time injured than on the 'pitch' don't they, sadly. So many talented footballers certainly saw their careers stall/end early because they couldn't stop getting injured, so maybe she'll be one of those.
Andy Murray was. He had to really work on his body to stop it breaking down all the time. Sounds like she's going to have to do the same.
I don't think she has anything like the commitment that Murray had.

abzmike

8,483 posts

107 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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Her latest injury is unfortunate. But this year is critical for her playing career. If she doesn’t maintain sufficient ranking to get into decent events without qualifying, when her exemptions and invitations run out, then she is done. It’s very hard to see her commitment reaching to playing challenger tournaments when she has 20mil already in the bank. It’s now or never to get her body and mind in shape.

CoolHands

18,771 posts

196 months

Friday 6th January 2023
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g4ry13 said:
I actually expect her to be presenting / commentating on Wimbledon before she's 30.
100%. they will love her and she'll be presenting forever.

andyA700

2,811 posts

38 months

Saturday 7th January 2023
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g4ry13 said:
swisstoni said:
HTP99 said:
Love the optimism in this thread, if I was into my tennis, I would have given up on her ages ago!!
Yet somewhere inside her is the ability to win 9 straight matches to win a US Open.
That’s what makes her interesting.
Against some rather uncompetitive players and managing to play an absolute nobody in the final for a slam.

It was an unlikely scenario and set of circumstances AKA a fluke.

Emma has made her money, got the fame, riches and honours. There's no drive, no mental fortitude to persevere through hardship and will never win another slam or crack into the top 10.

She has done well to set herself up for life and able to say she has won a slam and that will be the pinnacle of her career.
The "absolute nobody" you refer to, Leylah Fernandez, had beaten the following players to reach the final - Naomi Osaka, Angelique Kerber, Elina Svitolina and Aryna Sabalenka.
Are they "nobodys" as well?

James6112

4,476 posts

29 months

Monday 9th January 2023
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CoolHands said:
g4ry13 said:
I actually expect her to be presenting / commentating on Wimbledon before she's 30.
100%. they will love her and she'll be presenting forever.
Can’t see it myself..
The commentary box did tend to be full of second rate players / the best Brits at the time.
But at least they had long careers as the plucky runners up.
One win & a sick note isn’t a great CV!

andyA700

2,811 posts

38 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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James6112 said:
CoolHands said:
g4ry13 said:
I actually expect her to be presenting / commentating on Wimbledon before she's 30.
100%. they will love her and she'll be presenting forever.
Can’t see it myself..
The commentary box did tend to be full of second rate players / the best Brits at the time.
But at least they had long careers as the plucky runners up.
One win & a sick note isn’t a great CV!
Who are these second rate players you are talking about?

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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andyA700 said:
James6112 said:
CoolHands said:
g4ry13 said:
I actually expect her to be presenting / commentating on Wimbledon before she's 30.
100%. they will love her and she'll be presenting forever.
Can’t see it myself..
The commentary box did tend to be full of second rate players / the best Brits at the time.
But at least they had long careers as the plucky runners up.
One win & a sick note isn’t a great CV!
Who are these second rate players you are talking about?
I would hazard a guess that he's primarily talking about world no. 4, multiple tournament winner, multiple grand slam semi-finalist Tim Henman. The loser.

dasbimmerowner

364 posts

142 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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I'm staggered that in 2022 she was the forth highest paid female athlete, since her fantastic win at the US Open she's largely done nothing. Good on her in terms of marketing herself, she's certainly made the most of that win.

leef44

4,456 posts

154 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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CoolHands said:
g4ry13 said:
I actually expect her to be presenting / commentating on Wimbledon before she's 30.
100%. they will love her and she'll be presenting forever.
Can't wait to see her presenting Top Gear and then later in life Escape to the Country biggrin

But seriously, she is still young, talented and has so much more to give if she can pull it all together. Top sports people have grit, determination and stamina. They just don't give up. So we will see what she is made of over the next few years.

leef44

4,456 posts

154 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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dasbimmerowner said:
I'm staggered that in 2022 she was the forth highest paid female athlete, since her fantastic win at the US Open she's largely done nothing. Good on her in terms of marketing herself, she's certainly made the most of that win.
I remember when Anna Kournikova was the highest income generating female tennis player when she was ranked no.20

nickfrog

21,303 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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leef44 said:
Can't wait to see her presenting Top Gear and then later in life Escape to the Country biggrin

But seriously, she is still young, talented and has so much more to give if she can pull it all together. Top sports people have grit, determination and stamina. They just don't give up. So we will see what she is made of over the next few years.
Caroline Garcia is proving exactly that at 29 and despite 5 years in the doldrums. 4th in the world and won at Shanghai last month.

AI1601

858 posts

95 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Depends on her drive, ambition to win more and how much love she has left for the sport (from a competitive perspective). I follow her on instagram and she is making good money from Porsche and a few other famous brands it seems. I would imagine being constantly injured severely impacts any pro's mindset.

I was watching a documentary on the OG Ronaldo and how he came back from two horrific knee injuries that kept him out for ~2 years to helping Brazil win the 2002 World Cup with 8 goals.

Escy

3,958 posts

150 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Ronaldo was good though.

nickfrog

21,303 posts

218 months

Friday 13th January 2023
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Escy said:
Ronaldo was good though.
How many grand slams did he win though?