GOLF - 2022

[kiethton]

Patrick Bateman said:

I fear my game may have peaked a day early...





Think the fastest ball speed I'd previously seen was 158 so well chuffed with that. Haven't hit that many iron shots into a dispersion like that...ever.

20-30mph winds tomorrow though will keep it interesting.

Some strong figures that, good luck with it

[kiethton]

Rosscow said:

Would love to take you up on that! The changes look great. Would reciprocate with a game at Rye for you.

Just seen this and sent a PM - Greenie please PM me if you'd like a game

[Teebs]

Teebs said:

Teebs said:

Smiljan said:

Let us know how you get on, what are you hoping for? Is it more distance. more accurate or just a bit more forgiving to poor strikes?

Guess it's a bit of everything. Will see what I end up, currently have a Callaway XHot2 with a Speeder 661 shaft so I'm not expecting a massive difference but another 10 yards or so would be appreciated.

Ended up with a Callaway Rogue ST Max. Good distance increase against my current driver and much better on poor strikes. The ball flight difference was pretty stark. 8 years between the driver designs.

First round with the driver was positive overall despite not playing particularly great. Played round my old course so I know the driving areas really well and I was playing from positions that I've never hit from before.

Couple over 280 yards (GPS verified)..

Round slightly spoilt by 2 old dears who seemed to revel in playing very slowly and then telling me off for running the trolley over the far edge of an un-used tee box.

[Blackpuddin]

Just to put the other side to it, earlier on this week I thought I'd try some Old Man Pat style golf (from Golfmates), ie no more than horizontal on the back swing and just gently tap it. To my amazement, with a Ping G425 driver the ball was going just as far as it was on a fuller swing, but a hell of a lot more accurately, straight up the middle instead of blocked way right. Tried it with hybrid off the deck, a club I normally cannot hit at all. Horizontal backswing, same results,
Did it again yesterday, more of the same.
Not perfect yet but hope I might have found a way forward. Really makes you see what the technology will do if you let it.

[deckster]

Blackpuddin said:

Just to put the other side to it, earlier on this week I thought I'd try some Old Man Pat style golf (from Golfmates), ie no more than horizontal on the back swing and just gently tap it. To my amazement, with a Ping G425 driver the ball was going just as far as it was on a fuller swing, but a hell of a lot more accurately, straight up the middle instead of blocked way right. Tried it with hybrid off the deck, a club I normally cannot hit at all. Horizontal backswing, same results,

Yeah most people overswing hugely almost all the time. I will wager good money that if you filmed your "No more than horizontal backswing" you'll see the club being vertical or just past. Which, as you say, is all you need.

[Blackpuddin]

deckster said:

Blackpuddin said:

Just to put the other side to it, earlier on this week I thought I'd try some Old Man Pat style golf (from Golfmates), ie no more than horizontal on the back swing and just gently tap it. To my amazement, with a Ping G425 driver the ball was going just as far as it was on a fuller swing, but a hell of a lot more accurately, straight up the middle instead of blocked way right. Tried it with hybrid off the deck, a club I normally cannot hit at all. Horizontal backswing, same results,

Yeah most people overswing hugely almost all the time. I will wager good money that if you filmed your "No more than horizontal backswing" you'll see the club being vertical or just past. Which, as you say, is all you need.

I'll try to video myself next time to see if you're right, but my 'normal' swing is already pretty limited so I'd be surprised!

[danneth]

Deesee said:

They are super numbers especially with the little lemonade! II love to see that from 8 iron down (im not a fan of drawing the ball into greens). Nb I’m assuming your right handed!

I’d say the t200 are a good club stronger than say a CB, but your spin numbers seem a little low, 8000 ish would be the target, not for distance but for a controlled flight.

I’ve done two fittings at st Ives with Dan (I now play Callaway for the last two fittings)..

You clearly have swing speed, I know + golfers who would bite your hand off!

If you can get a grass trackman session you need to be hitting 4/5 deg down, I’d say your probably sweeping the ball at present.. which is great for distance, but if you can hit down and compress the ball you’ll be very consistent..

2degs week on your lofts might not be a bad shout (although that does affect the bounce).

Shaft? X100 or PJ 6.5?

As I say that's only me stepping on them, my playing distance 9i would be more 155-160

I've always had low spin numbers with the irons, however, never really suffered much due to height I also get so stopping ok greens has never been an issue.

Can remember my aoa but I'm certainly more a digger than a sweeper.

Shafts are Project X LZ 6.0 120g

[Stan the Bat]

Blackpuddin said:

Just to put the other side to it, earlier on this week I thought I'd try some Old Man Pat style golf (from Golfmates), ie no more than horizontal on the back swing and just gently tap it. To my amazement, with a Ping G425 driver the ball was going just as far as it was on a fuller swing, but a hell of a lot more accurately, straight up the middle instead of blocked way right. Tried it with hybrid off the deck, a club I normally cannot hit at all. Horizontal backswing, same results,
Did it again yesterday, more of the same.
Not perfect yet but hope I might have found a way forward. Really makes you see what the technology will do if you let it.

OMP certainly hits it pretty straight.

[bodhi]

Decided to buy myself a new wedge! Been mucking about with the aerial route around the green a bit more, and been finding my 56 a little limiting in terms of how much height I can get on it, so ordered myself the 60 to go with it:

https://www.scottsdalegolf.co.uk/shop/taylormade-m...

Arrives on Tuesday, just in time for Club Championship! What could possibly go wrong?

[Greenie]

kiethton said:

Rosscow said:

Would love to take you up on that! The changes look great. Would reciprocate with a game at Rye for you.

Just seen this and sent a PM - Greenie please PM me if you'd like a game

Will do. How many do we have?

[Patrick Bateman]

Blackpuddin said:

Just to put the other side to it, earlier on this week I thought I'd try some Old Man Pat style golf (from Golfmates), ie no more than horizontal on the back swing and just gently tap it. To my amazement, with a Ping G425 driver the ball was going just as far as it was on a fuller swing, but a hell of a lot more accurately, straight up the middle instead of blocked way right. Tried it with hybrid off the deck, a club I normally cannot hit at all. Horizontal backswing, same results,
Did it again yesterday, more of the same.
Not perfect yet but hope I might have found a way forward. Really makes you see what the technology will do if you let it.

Interesting you say this as I've noticed similar with irons, certainly shorter ones. Usually start the driving range warm up hitting PW with short swings as I'm too stiff and once I loosen off there's not much difference in carry distance between keeping the same length swing or going to a full swing. Maybe a bit different if I try and max out one just to see but not generally something that I'd do during a game.

Definitely a different story with the driver though. Biggest possible turn, letting the left heel come right up can add a good few mph to the clubhead speed.

[Blackpuddin]

Patrick Bateman said:

Blackpuddin said:

Just to put the other side to it, earlier on this week I thought I'd try some Old Man Pat style golf (from Golfmates), ie no more than horizontal on the back swing and just gently tap it. To my amazement, with a Ping G425 driver the ball was going just as far as it was on a fuller swing, but a hell of a lot more accurately, straight up the middle instead of blocked way right. Tried it with hybrid off the deck, a club I normally cannot hit at all. Horizontal backswing, same results,
Did it again yesterday, more of the same.
Not perfect yet but hope I might have found a way forward. Really makes you see what the technology will do if you let it.

Interesting you say this as I've noticed similar with irons, certainly shorter ones. Usually start the driving range warm up hitting PW with short swings as I'm too stiff and once I loosen off there's not much difference in carry distance between keeping the same length swing or going to a full swing. Maybe a bit different if I try and max out one just to see but not generally something that I'd do during a game.

Definitely a different story with the driver though. Biggest possible turn, letting the left heel come right up can add a good few mph to the clubhead speed.

Sure, I can do a full swing with the driver but in almost every case I block it way right. Probably trying to steer the ball and not releasing the clubhead properly. Shortening the swing seems to reduce that. Certainly reduces the variables for me.

[Andy 308GTB]

Well done Fitzy, that was a brilliant finish.

[StescoG66]

Stunning. Just stunning. Delighted for him

[Leithen]

Astonishing shot from the bunker and great recovery from earlier setbacks. Fantastic.

[85Carrera]

Leithen said:

Astonishing shot from the bunker and great recovery from earlier setbacks. Fantastic.

That bunker shot was unreal. Really pleased for him, seems like a lovely chap and family

[Rosscow]

Superb from Fitzpatrick - so happy to see him win! And wonderful to see Billy get a major, too. You could see how much it meant to him.

[Rosscow]

Played the Old Course at Sunningdale yesterday.

What can I say? Absolutely magnificent. Such a playable course, every hole a pure joy to play and each and every one could be a painting. Visually stunning. Superb condition.

Managed a very average 87 off of the whites, managed to 2 putt par stroke index 1 which was nice.

Going back next month to hopefully play the New Course (although I'd quite like to play the Old again now I know where I'm going!).

[fourstardan]

Rosscow said:

Played the Old Course at Sunningdale yesterday.

What can I say? Absolutely magnificent. Such a playable course, every hole a pure joy to play and each and every one could be a painting. Visually stunning. Superb condition.

Managed a very average 87 off of the whites, managed to 2 putt par stroke index 1 which was nice.

Going back next month to hopefully play the New Course (although I'd quite like to play the Old again now I know where I'm going!).

Do you know a member? I've always been put off by price to play tbh.

[Rosscow]

fourstardan said:

Do you know a member? I've always been put off by price to play tbh.

Hi Dan,

No, it was an invitational so fortunately didn't have to pay!

Next month we have a friendly match which will see 4 of us go there and then we reciprocate and play them at ours a few weeks later.

I think it's around £300 a round or £500 for the day at Sunningdale? I'd be tempted to treat myself to a day with lunch for a special occasion - it's magnificent. Think you have to book quite far ahead though.