England cricket 2023 & 2024

[waynedear]

Brilliant series win, I said to my wife this morning we would win by 14.00, nearly right and even better she has been asking for tms on the radio.

[Murph7355]

Great series win, no matter what my concerns. You can only play what is in front of you.

NZ will be gutted I think. Had England on the ropes in all three and fluffed it. But England should be happy with the way they dug in and YJB's performances.

Shame there isn't more time to the next ones to get some proper coaching for the top order done.

[AlexS]

spikeyhead said:

Smollet said:

thegreenhell said:

Eoin Morgan is reported to be about to announce retirement from international cricket.

He’s made enough hints of late so won’t be a surprise especially looking at his recent form. Great player and probably an even greater captain. Arguably the best England captain for some while.

the only one better in all my years of watching cricket is Gatting.

Mike Brearley has to be there as one of the better recent captains as well.

[RichB]

AlexS said:

Mike Brearley has to be there as one of the better recent captains as well.

Indeed, I'd put Brearley above Gatting.

[CardinalBlue]

Murph7355 said:

The NE wasn't doing too bad on lubrication (Though the price of drinks and food at events now is nuts. £7.30 for a pint in a paper cup (same at London Stadium the night before). £12 for a large g&t.

The stewards started off trying to stop the frivolity but realised in the afternoon that it was pointless. One bloke in our stand tried to start one, but the curmudgeons (self included) weren't up for being covered in beer by his feeble efforts.

What was you drinking? £6.10 for a pint of Guinness, and £5.80 for both bitter/lager in behind the Western Terrace on Days 1 and 2. To give Headingley it's due, the queues for food and drinks were impressively quick. It wasn't unheard of to miss an hour or more of play not that long ago - I know someone who missed 20 hours of the ODI vs Sri Lanka in the World Cup -and generally we were out and back within an over.

A bit annoying to see the stadium half full (and best!) today having spent three hours yesterday in the online queue only to be told all the tickets were sold out by the time I got to the front of the queue!

[LotusOmega375D]

Great series. The free ticket giveaway worked: having been one of the lucky recipients at Trent Bridge, my son and I have now caught the bug, so I’ve bought us both tickets for a day of the series decider ENG v IND Test at Edgbaston. I expect that match will be tougher still for Stokes & Co, but at least they will arrive with renewed confidence.

[anonymous-user]

I'd love for England to get a result against India, nothing against the team but some of the fans have been getting on my nerves lately.

[jbswagger]

It's only a short time since the despair of the Caribbean, but I am loving the new England

[speedy_thrills]

England definitely look like they've turned a corner with Stokes and McCullum. I'm sure they won't win them all but at least they look like they are playing to win now.

[toastyhamster]

We'll come unstuck against India trying the same tactics, Bumrah and Shami are too good and their backups are better than NZs.

Good series win and some very enjoyable cricket, small shame we were at TB to see NZ pile on the runs, probably would have picked any other day. 3-0 is harsh on NZ though, scoring 550+ in the first innings and still losing the match is a proper ouch moment.

[spikeyhead]

RichB said:

AlexS said:

Mike Brearley has to be there as one of the better recent captains as well.

Indeed, I'd put Brearley above Gatting.

He stopped being captain in 79, so I would have seen him play on the tele but didn't understand any of the subtleties back then.

[Murph7355]

CardinalBlue said:

What was you drinking? £6.10 for a pint of Guinness, and £5.80 for both bitter/lager in behind the Western Terrace on Days 1 and 2. To give Headingley it's due, the queues for food and drinks were impressively quick. It wasn't unheard of to miss an hour or more of play not that long ago - I know someone who missed 20 hours of the ODI vs Sri Lanka in the World Cup -and generally we were out and back within an over.

A bit annoying to see the stadium half full (and best!) today having spent three hours yesterday in the online queue only to be told all the tickets were sold out by the time I got to the front of the queue!

Missing 20hrs of an ODI is some going

Back of the North East stand. Pretty sure it was £7.30 for lager/cider... But could be wrong.

G&T doubles were definitely £12.

Mate's son got some Indian chicken... £9.50.

Speed was OK as you note. I wonder how much of that was less queues due to pricing!

Was also at the World Cup ODI and agree it was a *lot* slower.

[DeejRC]

Mike B was head and shoulders above Fat Gat. Not to mention Vaughan.
The above were Test skippers of course not limited overs specialist skipper. For what it’s worth though, I rate Morgan along side Mike B and as one of the most important players in England cricket history.

[jet_noise]

toastyhamster said:

We'll come unstuck against India trying the same tactics, Bumrah and Shami are too good and their backups are better than NZs.

Good series win and some very enjoyable cricket, small shame we were at TB to see NZ pile on the runs, probably would have picked any other day. 3-0 is harsh on NZ though, scoring 550+ in the first innings and still losing the match is a proper ouch moment.

A combination of ordinary NZ performance with an improved England one. As others have observed there were missed chances that allowed England's fightbacks. Poor openers are one "traditional" England feature which the B&B show have yet to change.
Great to see some new faces stepping up as well as Root enjoying playing again. And how much has Leach improved?

Now India. On Friday. Not long to prepare.
As th suggests a harder nut to crack but it's only one match rather than a series so that must favour the home side

[andyA700]

RichB said:

AlexS said:

Mike Brearley has to be there as one of the better recent captains as well.

Indeed, I'd put Brearley above Gatting.

I would put Brearley top then Michael Vaughan.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2246364-where-...

[Venisonpie]

BBC reporting that Vaughan has "stepped back" from his media role while the racism enquiry is dealt with, I did wonder what had happened and why he was back on TV.

Apparently still contracted by the beeb which I guess is fair enough until the outcome is known.

[BaronVonVaderham]

Amazing series for England after only one win in the previous 17 tests.

At 55-6 I thought we were done for.

[Gargamel]

Sibley is averaging 48 in the County Game.

So what's the challenge - is it the pressure of tests, the better bowlers. Is it a flawed technique only exposed at test level, head games ...

So many factors. However the stats at least don't lie, best opener in the county game.

Personally I would stick with Crawley for the India series. See if the mood around the England camp can inspire a bit of confidence.

[Slowboathome]

Gargamel said:

Sibley is averaging 48 in the County Game.

So what's the challenge - is it the pressure of tests, the better bowlers. Is it a flawed technique only exposed at test level, head games ...

So many factors. However the stats at least don't lie, best opener in the county game.

Personally I would stick with Crawley for the India series. See if the mood around the England camp can inspire a bit of confidence.

I think I agree with this. Crawley has a lot of talent. Just needs to soak up the positivity and work hard on flaws in his technique.

Must admit I'm still gobsmacked at the impact of Stokes in particular. I hope his body holds up and he can continue for a few years.

[anonymous-user]

Gargamel said:

Sibley is averaging 48 in the County Game.

So what's the challenge - is it the pressure of tests, the better bowlers. Is it a flawed technique only exposed at test level, head games ...

So many factors. However the stats at least don't lie, best opener in the county game.

Personally I would stick with Crawley for the India series. See if the mood around the England camp can inspire a bit of confidence.

Sibley was subjected to pelters because he was a relative debutant in a struggling side that had forgotten how to win. He was criticised for slow scoring and conservative shot selection, and like every other opener that has come and gone in the last 10 years or so was scapegoated for not being Alistair Cook or Andrew Strauss.

I reckon batting at Nos 1-3 is the absolute hardest job in cricket, if you get out early you are considered to be at fault for any subsequent collapse, having fired up the bowling attack/exposed the middle order to the new ball. Additionally you are expect to score against fresh bowling and the fastest ball with the most seam movement. You are not expected to play expansive cricket but only go for the bad balls. In short you need to suppress your natural instincts and play a patient watchful innings.