The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)

[carlo996]

fridaypassion said:

Whenever there's a big fight not being made Fury is always in the middle of it!

The man's a disgrace. He's a disgrace to the sport and he's a disgrace to all the people that believe in all the mental health bks he spouts. The personal insults and stuff towards a fighter that's got 5 x the legacy and 100 times the respect of people than Fury could dream of. Even his own fans are turning against him. You can't be selling your brand on your mental health struggles (or doping ban as some people call it) one minute and then using some pretty childish derogatory comments about people the next.

I've long though Fury was a total helmet now I think that view is mainstream. If he ever fights again he'll get boo'd out of the arena.

Man up and fight or just sod off now. It's really beyond boring now.

As with football the women are showing how it should be done the best fighting the best!

Nope. He'll sell out the biggest arena and break the internet with PPV sales. It doesn't matter what you think, the fact is he is still the biggest draw in heavyweight boxing.

[Puzzles]

The guy is being a 🛎️ no doubt about that.

[LukeBrown66]

The fact that Usyk even considered a 30% split shows you this is not about Usyk, it is all about Fury. there is no way on earth Fury would accept anything other than 50/50 probably more.

Think about it, Usyk let them talk about taking only 30%, that is insane if true, HE holds most of the belts!! Apparently Fury even refused the donation to Ukraine, a reasonable gesture for one so rich, and one that would endear him to people.

We will never know the real reasons here, but the common denominator in all this is Fury, I don.t think Warren, he has little say here, just a puppet, the complete opposite of AJ who is dominated by Hearn I believe.

He has only fought one worthy contender, Wilder three times. Not Ruiz, not AJ, not Usyk.

i think the Aj Fury fight is possible and all this does is make everyone want AJ to beat him, I dont think he does, but Fury is losing support after doing so much to regain it.

but he is genuinely a sick man, an ill man, who has not really controlled his illness so all of this is to be expected.

[fridaypassion]

If AJ looses to Franklin then Fury AJ fight might get made. With Fury he will not risk his undefeated status that's what it's all about. How many volumes of this thread do you need to go back to see me saying Fury would never take Usyk?

An AJ loss might give Fury the confidence that the risk is worth taking. That will be the division tied up for 2 years again!

I love AJ I know he has his detractors but he took on Usyk which is commendable when you have everything to loose and not much to gain. Even this comeback fight I mean why pick someone who performed as well in his last fight as Franklin? AJ is a great fighter he is at least willing to fight the best so his legacy to meet is far greater than Fury's ever will be.

[biggbn]

fridaypassion said:

If AJ looses to Franklin then Fury AJ fight might get made. With Fury he will not risk his undefeated status that's what it's all about. How many volumes of this thread do you need to go back to see me saying Fury would never take Usyk?

An AJ loss might give Fury the confidence that the risk is worth taking. That will be the division tied up for 2 years again!

I love AJ I know he has his detractors but he took on Usyk which is commendable when you have everything to loose and not much to gain. Even this comeback fight I mean why pick someone who performed as well in his last fight as Franklin? AJ is a great fighter he is at least willing to fight the best so his legacy to meet is far greater than Fury's ever will be.

100%, he definitely cares more about legacy than Fury.

[Pugaris]

Gerradi said:

WBC the most corrupt of all boxing organisations...they think Fury can milk the $ in US after Wilder ...

Will be tough since the silly is barred from entering the US

[carlo996]

fridaypassion said:

If AJ looses to Franklin then Fury AJ fight might get made. With Fury he will not risk his undefeated status that's what it's all about. How many volumes of this thread do you need to go back to see me saying Fury would never take Usyk?

An AJ loss might give Fury the confidence that the risk is worth taking. That will be the division tied up for 2 years again!

I love AJ I know he has his detractors but he took on Usyk which is commendable when you have everything to loose and not much to gain. Even this comeback fight I mean why pick someone who performed as well in his last fight as Franklin? AJ is a great fighter he is at least willing to fight the best so his legacy to meet is far greater than Fury's ever will be.

AJ and legacy, he doesn't care about legacy, only money. Listen to his last interviews about why he is in the game. As for this supposed legacy, he has lost 3/5, Fury would beat him easily for me. The only reason AJ took on Usyk was because all other options were an obvious defeat, unless he picked a journeyman...but he didn't have the luxury due to his poor performances. I'd like to see Wilder vs AJ, and would bet heavily on Wilder knocking him out in 6 rounds. If you were Fury why would you bother with AJ, he holds all the cards. It's a very different scenario if he gets beat sometime soon, but, everyone on here has been praying for this for a while

[LukeBrown66]

I also saw a very good recent interview with AJ.

Someone asked him why he keeps coming back and he was honest enough to say "money"

This is a short life and I want to make as much as i can to look after myself and secure interests in the future, as with most boxers he came from nothing and thankfully still realises this.

he is not the best, but as a person I warm to him much more, I do like Fury, but his mental health is wearing at the moment, he is very up and down still. Better than he was before VK, band he has clearly worked at it, but that abusive stuff a few weeks you saw the real man there.

[fridaypassion]

I've seen AJ say many times that he wants to fight the best of the best I think him coming out and saying "Money" is a bit of a cover really. Yes his persona and brand are that of the astute businessman but he could have had a far easier route to where he has got to than where he is. What did he have like 14 consecutive world title fights? That's not normal!

[carlo996]

fridaypassion said:

I've seen AJ say many times that he wants to fight the best of the best I think him coming out and saying "Money" is a bit of a cover really. Yes his persona and brand are that of the astute businessman but he could have had a far easier route to where he has got to than where he is. What did he have like 14 consecutive world title fights? That's not normal!

Agreed, but he really has no legacy, apart from signing up to fights to make money.

[Chamon_Lee]

fridaypassion said:

I've seen AJ say many times that he wants to fight the best of the best I think him coming out and saying "Money" is a bit of a cover really. Yes his persona and brand are that of the astute businessman but he could have had a far easier route to where he has got to than where he is. What did he have like 14 consecutive world title fights? That's not normal!

Blows my mind how “simple” the general public are sometimes.

He’s switched to saying money because he’s mocking the people who have for so long said he’s all about money. He does care about legacy and wants to be the best.

[philv]

LukeBrown66 said:

I also saw a very good recent interview with AJ.

Someone asked him why he keeps coming back and he was honest enough to say "money"

This is a short life and I want to make as much as i can to look after myself and secure interests in the future, as with most boxers he came from nothing and thankfully still realises this.

he is not the best, but as a person I warm to him much more, I do like Fury, but his mental health is wearing at the moment, he is very up and down still. Better than he was before VK, band he has clearly worked at it, but that abusive stuff a few weeks you saw the real man there.

Mental health?
Sorry, some people are just assholes.
He's one of them.
Please don't excuse any of his actions with the mental health card.

[Yazza54]

fridaypassion said:

If AJ looses to Franklin then Fury AJ fight might get made. With Fury he will not risk his undefeated status that's what it's all about. How many volumes of this thread do you need to go back to see me saying Fury would never take Usyk?

An AJ loss might give Fury the confidence that the risk is worth taking. That will be the division tied up for 2 years again!

I love AJ I know he has his detractors but he took on Usyk which is commendable when you have everything to loose and not much to gain. Even this comeback fight I mean why pick someone who performed as well in his last fight as Franklin? AJ is a great fighter he is at least willing to fight the best so his legacy to meet is far greater than Fury's ever will be.

AJ took Usyk not knowing how good he really was. At that point at HW he had fought del boy and Bellew.. yes he showed heart to take the rematch but maybe it just showed moreso that he's a bit deluded about.how good he is... Backed up by his frankly embarrassing rant after the fight. AJ thought he was going to steamroller Usyk in the first fight and I think he felt like he had no choice but to fight him again as he might not get another chance.

[tuscaneer]

Merc 450 said:

Chicken Chaser said:

Fury has shown himself as the petty, thin skinned nasty prick he is, poked and jabbed by True Geordie on YouTube for Del Boys final pay day and now this.

I still hope the fight is made, but I hope Usyk does the job on him and takes Fury's belts away. I can't see it ever being a KO but I can see Usyk going the distance and winning.

Usyk is not fit to wipe Tyson Fury's backside he was on the train to Kiev before negotiations failed.
I'm local and Tyson Fury has been seen running along Morecambe beach every day, he also bought the league 1 football club for the gym so he doesn't have to travel to Ricky Hattons in Manchester every day. Training camp was only going to be 4 weeks anyway.
By the way i bumped in to Ricky Hatton in two bars in Pattaya Thailand in January he was on a speaking tour

i'm assuming that's a joke... if not i'll stop right now as there's just no point

[andburg]

tuscaneer said:

Merc 450 said:

Chicken Chaser said:

Fury has shown himself as the petty, thin skinned nasty prick he is, poked and jabbed by True Geordie on YouTube for Del Boys final pay day and now this.

I still hope the fight is made, but I hope Usyk does the job on him and takes Fury's belts away. I can't see it ever being a KO but I can see Usyk going the distance and winning.

Usyk is not fit to wipe Tyson Fury's backside he was on the train to Kiev before negotiations failed.
I'm local and Tyson Fury has been seen running along Morecambe beach every day, he also bought the league 1 football club for the gym so he doesn't have to travel to Ricky Hattons in Manchester every day. Training camp was only going to be 4 weeks anyway.
By the way i bumped in to Ricky Hatton in two bars in Pattaya Thailand in January he was on a speaking tour

i'm assuming that's a joke... if not i'll stop right now as there's just no point

With you here Tusc.

Fury seen going for a run means Usyk ducked him? if anything Fury was running just in case Usyk bowed down to his almighty demands.

[epom]

Yazza54 said:

fridaypassion said:

If AJ looses to Franklin then Fury AJ fight might get made. With Fury he will not risk his undefeated status that's what it's all about. How many volumes of this thread do you need to go back to see me saying Fury would never take Usyk?

An AJ loss might give Fury the confidence that the risk is worth taking. That will be the division tied up for 2 years again!

I love AJ I know he has his detractors but he took on Usyk which is commendable when you have everything to loose and not much to gain. Even this comeback fight I mean why pick someone who performed as well in his last fight as Franklin? AJ is a great fighter he is at least willing to fight the best so his legacy to meet is far greater than Fury's ever will be.

AJ took Usyk not knowing how good he really was. At that point at HW he had fought del boy and Bellew.. yes he showed heart to take the rematch but maybe it just showed moreso that he's a bit deluded about.how good he is... Backed up by his frankly embarrassing rant after the fight. AJ thought he was going to steamroller Usyk in the first fight and I think he felt like he had no choice but to fight him again as he might not get another chance.

Agreed, but at least he actually fought him.

[Yazza54]

epom said:

Yazza54 said:

fridaypassion said:

If AJ looses to Franklin then Fury AJ fight might get made. With Fury he will not risk his undefeated status that's what it's all about. How many volumes of this thread do you need to go back to see me saying Fury would never take Usyk?

An AJ loss might give Fury the confidence that the risk is worth taking. That will be the division tied up for 2 years again!

I love AJ I know he has his detractors but he took on Usyk which is commendable when you have everything to loose and not much to gain. Even this comeback fight I mean why pick someone who performed as well in his last fight as Franklin? AJ is a great fighter he is at least willing to fight the best so his legacy to meet is far greater than Fury's ever will be.

AJ took Usyk not knowing how good he really was. At that point at HW he had fought del boy and Bellew.. yes he showed heart to take the rematch but maybe it just showed moreso that he's a bit deluded about.how good he is... Backed up by his frankly embarrassing rant after the fight. AJ thought he was going to steamroller Usyk in the first fight and I think he felt like he had no choice but to fight him again as he might not get another chance.

Agreed, but at least he actually fought him.

I still think Fury will eventually

[boholoblanka]

carlo996 said:

fridaypassion said:

I've seen AJ say many times that he wants to fight the best of the best I think him coming out and saying "Money" is a bit of a cover really. Yes his persona and brand are that of the astute businessman but he could have had a far easier route to where he has got to than where he is. What did he have like 14 consecutive world title fights? That's not normal!

Agreed, but he really has no legacy, apart from signing up to fights to make money.

Nuts to legacy. its all about cashing in and making as much as you can and leave with your facilities in tact....

Look where you have parties bound by separate contracts and contractual terms you will never have a situation where the best fight the best. never have never will. plus 95% of the heads on the street dont care or dont know who he fights and only hope that the fight is decent,

[biggbn]

Yazza54 said:

fridaypassion said:

If AJ looses to Franklin then Fury AJ fight might get made. With Fury he will not risk his undefeated status that's what it's all about. How many volumes of this thread do you need to go back to see me saying Fury would never take Usyk?

An AJ loss might give Fury the confidence that the risk is worth taking. That will be the division tied up for 2 years again!

I love AJ I know he has his detractors but he took on Usyk which is commendable when you have everything to loose and not much to gain. Even this comeback fight I mean why pick someone who performed as well in his last fight as Franklin? AJ is a great fighter he is at least willing to fight the best so his legacy to meet is far greater than Fury's ever will be.

AJ took Usyk not knowing how good he really was. At that point at HW he had fought del boy and Bellew.. yes he showed heart to take the rematch but maybe it just showed moreso that he's a bit deluded about.how good he is... Backed up by his frankly embarrassing rant after the fight. AJ thought he was going to steamroller Usyk in the first fight and I think he felt like he had no choice but to fight him again as he might not get another chance.

Or, AJ took Usyk knowing EXACTLY how good he is, and deserves huge kudos for doing so?

[carlo996]

boholoblanka said:

Nuts to legacy. its all about cashing in and making as much as you can and leave with your facilities in tact....

Look where you have parties bound by separate contracts and contractual terms you will never have a situation where the best fight the best. never have never will. plus 95% of the heads on the street dont care or dont know who he fights and only hope that the fight is decent,

I do agree, however there are some that are claiming that AJ has a legacy and that he’s somehow still most relevant in the heavyweight division, despite a poor recent record. He’ll have to take what he can, I expect the fight at the weekend to be a piece of piss followed by ‘I’m back’ etc. of course if he loses he’s finished.