6N - 2023

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s2kjock

1,693 posts

148 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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The kicking did spoil the game at times. Didn't seem to be an issue with the Ireland Wales game so I'm not sure what rule changes could be introduced to reduce this problem.

Kermit power

28,718 posts

214 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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BlackWidow13 said:
Scotland played with an undeniable energy and ambition but fk me England made it easy for them. Scotland could have played the same game against France, Ireland, SA or NZ and come away with no tries.

Based on a data set of precisely 1, the timing of Jones’ sacking is looking appalling. Autumn in France - absent some sort of 2007 style dressing room revolution - looks like it’ll be very difficult.
Seriously?

If only they'd got Smith to take the kicks instead of fking clog foot Farrell, we'd have won the game!

If they'd just be brave and drop Farrell to play an actual 12, we might start winning!

abzmike

8,462 posts

107 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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Left to drive north from Edinburgh just at kick off - very poor planning but I had limited hopes. A most enjoyable listen on the radio I get home, genuinely surprised Scotland pulled that off. Not seen the game back, but seems to me the tackle and penalty stats were key to the win - Scotland have been playing like this for ages, but then give away critical penalties and yellow cards… not today it seems. Onwards and upwards, really need to make a change and have two good results in a row.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 4th February 2023
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Kermit power said:
BlackWidow13 said:
Scotland played with an undeniable energy and ambition but fk me England made it easy for them. Scotland could have played the same game against France, Ireland, SA or NZ and come away with no tries.

Based on a data set of precisely 1, the timing of Jones’ sacking is looking appalling. Autumn in France - absent some sort of 2007 style dressing room revolution - looks like it’ll be very difficult.
Seriously?

If only they'd got Smith to take the kicks instead of fking clog foot Farrell, we'd have won the game!

If they'd just be brave and drop Farrell to play an actual 12, we might start winning!
Well they didn’t, so they didn’t.

Borthwick is even more heavily invested in OF than Jones was, so don’t hold your breath!

DocJock

8,361 posts

241 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Kermit power said:
Seriously?

If only they'd got Smith to take the kicks instead of fking clog foot Farrell, we'd have won the game!

If they'd just be brave and drop Farrell to play an actual 12, we might start winning!
If only Finn hadn't missed from in front of the posts we'd have won by even more! winkbiggrin

Alickadoo

1,760 posts

24 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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I have to say it was a lovely try from Hamish Mac van der Merwetavish.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Alickadoo said:
I have to say it was a lovely try from Hamish Mac van der Merwetavish.
When the English team went for tea and cake?

DocJock

8,361 posts

241 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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That's a bit unfair on Big D. He looked for, and found, the mismatch against a front five forward. Once he'd broken the line he put in two great sidesteps.

BigBen

11,654 posts

231 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Scotland's defence looked pretty good to me, England on the other hand were defensively terrible. A fun game to watch even if I am unhappy with the result, then again I am a Saints fan so 'fun to watch shame about the result' is something I am used to saying

Hill92

4,252 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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DocJock said:
That's a bit unfair on Big D. He looked for, and found, the mismatch against a front five forward. Once he'd broken the line he put in two great sidesteps.
He had the vision to spot the gap between Farrell and Marchant, the power to accelerate through it, past Chessum, stepping Steward, and then JVP while juggling the ball from his right hand to his left hand to fend off Dombrandt.

No wonder Townsend described it as like something out of the old "Jonah Lomu Rugby" games.

https://youtu.be/SGaf4tj9aOA

M1AGM

2,377 posts

33 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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BlackWidow13 said:
Scotland played with an undeniable energy and ambition but fk me England made it easy for them. Scotland could have played the same game against France, Ireland, SA or NZ and come away with no tries.

Based on a data set of precisely 1, the timing of Jones’ sacking is looking appalling. Autumn in France - absent some sort of 2007 style dressing room revolution - looks like it’ll be very difficult.
100% agree on the timing aspect.

I thought the difference, in what was on the field a tight game, was that Scotland took unscripted opportunities well and England didn’t react. It looked to me almost if though the england players were over drilled to keep it tight and use muscle, and didn’t know how to deal with the off script plays that got the Scots their tries (and escapes).

Jasey_

4,913 posts

179 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Hill92 said:
DocJock said:
That's a bit unfair on Big D. He looked for, and found, the mismatch against a front five forward. Once he'd broken the line he put in two great sidesteps.
He had the vision to spot the gap between Farrell and Marchant, the power to accelerate through it, past Chessum, stepping Steward, and then JVP while juggling the ball from his right hand to his left hand to fend off Dombrandt.

No wonder Townsend described it as like something out of the old "Jonah Lomu Rugby" games.

https://youtu.be/SGaf4tj9aOA
The only thing missing was holding the ball like it was a tennis ball then it would have been total lomu smile

DodgyGeezer

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40,604 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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FRA-ITA: not a bad match to be honest, and a warning for England next week! I don't think the Italians will win, but they have the potential to cause issues if we've not alert

abzmike

8,462 posts

107 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Yep… France the better side but toiling a bit here… rather generous penalty try hasn’t helped. Italy right up for it though.

Oliver80

366 posts

22 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Italians lead!

Dal3D

1,179 posts

152 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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^ unfortunately not for long.

Oliver80

366 posts

22 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Indeed. Shame.

Smollet

10,663 posts

191 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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I can see Italy giving us problems next week. We’re the only 6N side they haven’t beaten.

Baron Greenback

7,006 posts

151 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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Smollet said:
I can see Italy giving us problems next week. We’re the only 6N side they haven’t beaten.
Agreed, I am hoping their home advantage is part of how good they played and doesnt happen next week for our home advantage.

abzmike

8,462 posts

107 months

Sunday 5th February 2023
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France cling on against highly motivated opposition. A little more composure and the Italians might have nicked it. England really need to watch out. Ireland right now must be feeling quietly confident.