Bob Woolmer

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gargamel

15,022 posts

262 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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The Pakistani fans ALWAYS call for someones death or burn effigies of Inzy after they lose. It is like a ritual with them.

Also the media in Pakistan and India are much much worse than the UK in terms of overhyping players and then ripping into them.

Woolmer is unlikely to have been killed by the kind of street nutter that burns cricket caps in the streets after afridi is out for less than 20 (which is most of the time)

EDITED To remove a throw away line that appears to have upset sensitive thoughtful people

Sad though, and hardly cricket old chap


Edited by gargamel on Friday 23 March 10:17

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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gargamel said:

Woolmer is unlikely to have been killed by the kind of street nutter that burns cricket caps in the streets after afridi is out for less than 20 (which is most of the time)


Woolmer was a big lad... would take a bit to subdue him...

968

11,966 posts

249 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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Might I suggest that some of the posts on this thread are highly inappropriate, given that this is a public forum and Mrs Woolmer still doesn't know the circumstances behind her husband's murder? Perhaps people need to moderate their comments a bit, for the sake of common decency.

rich1231

17,331 posts

261 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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gargamel said:

The Pakistani fans ALWAYS call for someones death or burn effigies of Inzy after they lose. It is like a ritual with them.

Also the media in Pakistan and India are much much worse than the UK in terms of overhyping players and then ripping into them.

Woolmer is unlikely to have been killed by the kind of street nutter that burns cricket caps in the streets after afridi is out for less than 20 (which is most of the time)

EDITED To remove a throw away line that appears to have upset sensitive thoughtful people

Sad though, and hardly cricket old chap


And the evidence for your nonsense insinuation at the end of your post?





Edited by dazren on Friday 23 March 10:25

gargamel

15,022 posts

262 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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My bad

andy zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Friday 23rd March 2007
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I was in Sebring at the 12 Hour sportscar race when I heard the sad and shocking news that Bob Woolmer had died. Having heard the previous day that Pakistan had lost to Ireland, I was honestly surprised at the coincidence but had assumed it must have been a stress related heart attack. I'm lucky enough to be travelling to the Caribbean on sunday for two weeks sun and cricket world cup action. But I'm now going with a slightly heavy heart having listened to today's announcement that Bob was murdered, presumably in the name of the game I so love, and I'm struggling a bit to get my head round that concept.

Killer2005

19,663 posts

229 months

Saturday 24th March 2007
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0

Updated: 21:22, Saturday March 24, 2007

The Pakistan cricket captain and assistant coach have been questioned by police over the murder of Bob Woolmer in Jamaica.

Mr Woolmer, who was the team's coach, had been strangled in his hotel room - he was found unconscious last Sunday.

Pakistan skipper Inzamam ul-Haq and assistant coach Mushtaq Ahmed were quizzed by officers.

The team, who are set to fly out of the country shortly, have been interviewed, fingerprinted and DNA taken by police.


Bob Woolmer - Strangled Mr Ul-Haq later told Sky News that police needed to ask "one question" that they missed first time around and said officers told him he was free to go home.

Mr Woolmer's body was discovered a day after Pakistan were kicked out of the World Cup following a defeat to minnows Ireland.

Team spokesman Pervez Mir said: "We heard from our liaison officer that the police wanted to talk with Inzamam-ul-Haq and Mushtaq Ahmed.


Clive Rice "Those talks are going on now. We'll just have to hear what the outcome is."

Earlier, ex-South Africa captain Clive Rice told Sky News he believed Mr Woolmer was killed because he had uncovered evidence of corruption at the World Cup.

But Professor Tim Noakes, who was co-authoring a book with Mr Woolmer, says he did not think the Pakistan coach had any suspicions of match-fixing.

Mr Woolmer's body is to remain in Jamaica until an inquest into his death has been completed.


Forensics team at hotel Mr Rice said: "Bob Woolmer probably found about it (alleged match-fixing) and was going to expose it.

"This thing got right out of hand and I think he's been taken out as a result of that."

Mr Mir claims Mr Woolmer had told him a proof of the book he was writing, the only copy, had gone missing.

The match-fixing allegations may have dated back to Mr Woolmer's time in charge of South Africa.

It is understood the coach was found in the bathroom. Despite numerous attempts to revive him on the way to hospital, he was later pronounced dead.

FourWheelDrift

88,615 posts

285 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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Natural causes now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6714545....

BBC said:
Scotland Yard detectives have told Jamaican police that the former Pakistan cricket coach, Bob Woolmer, was not murdered, the BBC understands.

The apparent verdict follows work by a UK Home Office pathologist, who flew to Jamaica to probe Mr Woolmer's death. A UK newspaper has reported that Jamaican police are to announce that Mr Woolmer died of natural causes. Mr Woolmer was found dead in his hotel in Jamaica on 18 March after Pakistan's first-round exit from the World Cup. Days later Mark Shields, Jamaica's deputy police commissioner, announced at a news conference that the 58-year-old former England Test cricketer had been murdered. According to a report in the Daily Mail newspaper, police in Kingston now believe Mr Woolmer died of natural causes, brought on by chronic ill-health and possibly diabetes.

Former Pakistan player Asif Iqbal has criticised the Jamaican police investigation.
"When they said it was suspicious, after that it should have been dealt with in a normal way instead of being a Hollywood, or Bollywood kind of investigation," he told the BBC on Saturday.
"Every day there were different stories in the newspaper, every day there was a different way of his being murdered. I think they made a mess of it to be very honest."

There has been no confirmation of the report, with BBC sports editor Mihir Bose saying Mr Woolmer's widow has heard nothing about her husband dying of natural causes. In May, several other reports suggested Mr Woolmer was not murdered, often citing sources close to the investigation. One member of Jamaica's Labour Party said the case had become a "global embarrassment" for the country's police force.

Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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What a farce , i feel so sorry for his family what an unbearable situation to be in

peterpeter

6,437 posts

258 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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still no comment from the Jamaican police despite and "imminent announcement" over a week ago.

The only bit of news was on the BBC News 24 complaint programme where one viewer had criticized panorama..which incidentally got no reply.

Its all very odd.

Anyone heard anything else?

Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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No its gone very quiet on the whole story again scratchchin very strange situation all round

Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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Just been mentioned on the BBC that the Police will be making an anouncement today ..

Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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What a shambles , just seen on the BBC they admit it was a misstake and he was not murdered rolleyes

peterpeter

6,437 posts

258 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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no apologies from the jamaican police then but they can claim that the two pathologist initially made the mistake.

elements of the media certainly should aplogize for some of the crap written about cricket and the pakistan team too..especially the BBC


Marki

15,763 posts

271 months

Wednesday 13th June 2007
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peterpeter said:
elements of the media certainly should aplogize for some of the crap written about cricket and the pakistan team too..especially the BBC
I notice they have hardly mentioned this story , they did a brief sound nbite with Imran K who was talking about the Pakisstani team sueing for compensation but it was all over in 30 seconds and has dissapeared from the radar now

peterpeter

6,437 posts

258 months

Sunday 17th June 2007
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Marki said:
peterpeter said:
elements of the media certainly should aplogize for some of the crap written about cricket and the pakistan team too..especially the BBC
I notice they have hardly mentioned this story , they did a brief sound nbite with Imran K who was talking about the Pakisstani team sueing for compensation but it was all over in 30 seconds and has dissapeared from the radar now
at least the BBC are having a quiet look at themselves:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6747025.stm

and Peter Roebuck got it pretty spot on.

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/woolmer/content/cur...