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The Running Thread

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E38Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Locke said:
Wow you're right, I thought these were light but after comparing to those they're over twice as heavy.

252 vs 120 grams.
trust me, they're epic. they're as light as my track spikes!!!! i've only worn them once and they're only to be used for road races up to 10k for me.

InertialTooth45

2,111 posts

187 months

Wednesday 17th October 2012
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Track session tonight, efforts on the straight and then recovery on the bend, first set was 10 minutes (5 laps), 8 minutes (4 laps) and 6 minutes (3 laps).

Was a nice recovery session after Sundays half marathon. Next event is in two weeks which is Hell Run. Anyone else doing it?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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E38Ross said:
trust me, they're epic. they're as light as my track spikes!!!! i've only worn them once and they're only to be used for road races up to 10k for me.
I've had some good results this year ( 5k down from 21+ to 1855 & Half Marathon from 1.33 to 1.25, 1st over 50 in a biggish field!!). Do you reckon lighter shoes shave off much? . Is weight saving v softer ride worth it?. Genuine question, a good gain is good but not at the risk of injury to an oldie..

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Ran the Swindon half last Sunday (my first half). Wanted to run it in 1hr 40, which it turns out was a little ambitious! 10 miles in (having done the hard hilly bit of the course) and bang on the pace I think I ran out of energy. I've never experienced anything like it. All of a sudden my head was gone and my legs were like lead. It was all I could do to walk. 3 miles more walking / slow jogging torture saw me do 1hr 50.

I'd run the course twice before it what was ultimately a better time (in actual time and in terms of being enjoyable!) and didn't take any water or energy. Guess the increased pace took much more out of me. The other mistake I made was being overdressed for the temp. I left the house in a winter baselayer and had to defrost the car windscreen as it was 2degC. The temp went up 10degC in the next 2.5 hours!

Moving on I just bought some trail shoes and some XC spikes. Intending to do a few challenging XC type races and enter the Oxford Mail XC league. Hopefully it will help my fitness and be a good laugh!

Highway Star

3,576 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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m444ttb said:
Moving on I just bought some trail shoes and some XC spikes. Intending to do a few challenging XC type races and enter the Oxford Mail XC league. Hopefully it will help my fitness and be a good laugh!
I hope to do the Oxford Mail league too with my new club. Who do you run for? Might not make the first race as had some surgery yesterday and with only two and a half weeks to go, don't think I'll be running then, but would hope to do the race at Culham in December.

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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I'm with Highworth Running Club (base just outside Swindon). They've been going since 2004 apparently. I expect I'll be in the men's C team biggrin

Highway Star

3,576 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Might see you there then, I run for Woodstock Harriers (B team I reckon). Do you know a race down near Marlborough in January, called 'Mud and Mayhem' or something similar? Looks quite challenging...

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

163 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Does anybody have any advice for racing in the rain? Got the Great Brum Run on Sunday and rather annoyingly, Sunday is predicted to be wet with Saturday and Monday on either side of it sunny! I've trained many times in the rain, though have never run competitively in it.

I'm planning on just wearing my vest and shorts, all Nike Dri Fit with plasters on the nips. My shoes are well ventilated racing flats, which will probably let loads of water in. Anything else I should bear in mind or just get on with it?

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Highway Star said:
Might see you there then, I run for Woodstock Harriers (B team I reckon). Do you know a race down near Marlborough in January, called 'Mud and Mayhem' or something similar? Looks quite challenging...
Are you thinking of the Rough N Tumble?
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~gouldings/page80.ht...

My running club had a half marathon on the same day but I think ill do the RN'T instead! Also want to have a go at the Pewsey Vale Terminator.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Cybertronian said:
Does anybody have any advice for racing in the rain? Got the Great Brum Run on Sunday and rather annoyingly, Sunday is predicted to be wet with Saturday and Monday on either side of it sunny! I've trained many times in the rain, though have never run competitively in it.

I'm planning on just wearing my vest and shorts, all Nike Dri Fit with plasters on the nips. My shoes are well ventilated racing flats, which will probably let loads of water in. Anything else I should bear in mind or just get on with it?
Just get on with it!

Highway Star

3,576 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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m444ttb said:
Are you thinking of the Rough N Tumble?
http://www.users.waitrose.com/~gouldings/page80.ht...

My running club had a half marathon on the same day but I think ill do the RN'T instead! Also want to have a go at the Pewsey Vale Terminator.
That's the one! Cheers.

Blackpuddin

16,523 posts

205 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Evening all, I've very luckily landed a ballot place in next April's London Marathon and am currently three weeks into the beginner's training program. I've never done anything like this before and am excited, motivated and a bit scared all at the same time. Training's going OK so far though and I'm managing to get myself out every day without too much groaning.

My question for the experts on here is, is it a good or bad idea to put in for the Bath Half Marathon in early March, as a kind of warmup event, or would people advise against it on the grounds of potentially crocking myself out of the London event?

I'm no spring chicken but reasonably fit with no health issues (so far, hmm). What are the pros and cons?

lost in espace

6,161 posts

207 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Jimboka said:
Cybertronian said:
Does anybody have any advice for racing in the rain? Got the Great Brum Run on Sunday and rather annoyingly, Sunday is predicted to be wet with Saturday and Monday on either side of it sunny! I've trained many times in the rain, though have never run competitively in it.

I'm planning on just wearing my vest and shorts, all Nike Dri Fit with plasters on the nips. My shoes are well ventilated racing flats, which will probably let loads of water in. Anything else I should bear in mind or just get on with it?
Just get on with it!
I ran 20 miles of the New Forest marathon in a bin bag, and did a PB.


lost in espace

6,161 posts

207 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Blackpuddin said:
Evening all, I've very luckily landed a ballot place in next April's London Marathon and am currently three weeks into the beginner's training program. I've never done anything like this before and am excited, motivated and a bit scared all at the same time. Training's going OK so far though and I'm managing to get myself out every day without too much groaning.

My question for the experts on here is, is it a good or bad idea to put in for the Bath Half Marathon in early March, as a kind of warmup event, or would people advise against it on the grounds of potentially crocking myself out of the London event?

I'm no spring chicken but reasonably fit with no health issues (so far, hmm). What are the pros and cons?
By March 13 miles should be a walk in the park!

Tim330

1,128 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Blackpuddin said:
Evening all, I've very luckily landed a ballot place in next April's London Marathon and am currently three weeks into the beginner's training program. I've never done anything like this before and am excited, motivated and a bit scared all at the same time. Training's going OK so far though and I'm managing to get myself out every day without too much groaning.

My question for the experts on here is, is it a good or bad idea to put in for the Bath Half Marathon in early March, as a kind of warmup event, or would people advise against it on the grounds of potentially crocking myself out of the London event?

I'm no spring chicken but reasonably fit with no health issues (so far, hmm). What are the pros and cons?
Looking at the dates with Bath being 3rd March & London on 21st April I'd say no problem going for it. If there were only a few weeks between I'd say run the hm at marathon pace.
In training for the marathon you need to be doing some long runs further than 13.1 miles so you'll be fine with plenty of time to recover
  • I've never raced further than a hm so someone else will be able to comment.

InertialTooth45

2,111 posts

187 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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lost in espace said:
By March 13 miles should be a walk in the park!
Yep by that point you should be looking at about 20 miles. If you haven't already though it would be a good idea to race a big half marathon prior to London so you know what the atmosphere is like and to get used to pacing yourself whilst there are hundreds of people around you.

Cybertronian

1,516 posts

163 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Blackpuddin said:
Evening all, I've very luckily landed a ballot place in next April's London Marathon and am currently three weeks into the beginner's training program. I've never done anything like this before and am excited, motivated and a bit scared all at the same time. Training's going OK so far though and I'm managing to get myself out every day without too much groaning.

My question for the experts on here is, is it a good or bad idea to put in for the Bath Half Marathon in early March, as a kind of warmup event, or would people advise against it on the grounds of potentially crocking myself out of the London event?

I'm no spring chicken but reasonably fit with no health issues (so far, hmm). What are the pros and cons?
I've done exactly the same thing as you and am running Bath half as a warmup race. No cons at all apart from cost but the benefits are experience of a big scale race with other runners, experience of race pacing etc. Definitely recommended.

bigandclever

13,789 posts

238 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Blackpuddin said:
Evening all, I've very luckily landed a ballot place in next April's London Marathon and am currently three weeks into the beginner's training program. I've never done anything like this before and am excited, motivated and a bit scared all at the same time. Training's going OK so far though and I'm managing to get myself out every day without too much groaning.

My question for the experts on here is, is it a good or bad idea to put in for the Bath Half Marathon in early March, as a kind of warmup event, or would people advise against it on the grounds of potentially crocking myself out of the London event?

I'm no spring chicken but reasonably fit with no health issues (so far, hmm). What are the pros and cons?
I am by no means an expert, but I was in a similar situation last year smile

A half-marathon a month before the full marathon is fine. Your training runs at some point before the taper should be longer than that anyway - at some point a 20 miler should be in your program anyway. I found the half was good for getting a grip of a 'race' situation (timings for adrenaline, nutrition, and bog stops for instance). I would also suggest that running every day is not sustainable - your body needs to recover. I alternated runs with static bike and cross-trainer sessions.

Blackpuddin

16,523 posts

205 months

Thursday 18th October 2012
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Thanks to all for these helpful comments, that's decided me to put in for Bath, might see you there Cybertronian - if my legs haven't been worn down to stumps by then. weeping

E38Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Friday 19th October 2012
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lost in espace said:
I ran 20 miles of the New Forest marathon in a bin bag, and did a PB.
you lightweight hehe

just because you ran a PB doesn't mean you wouldn't have gone quicker with a bin bag around you.

i pretty much exclusively race in vest/shorts.
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