Good on you Shaun Edwards.
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stimmers said:
dickymint said:
Well this is what Edwards himself has to say............
Edwards: Why I’ve signed for Wales
Apr 11 2008 by Simon Roberts, Western Mail
SHAUN EDWARDS last night revealed why he had turned down England, after committing his future to Wales until the 2011 World Cup in New Zealand.
Wales’ Grand Slam defence coach finally ended the long-running contract saga and signed a three-year-deal to be Warren Gatland’s right-hand man.
Edwards, the Welsh Rugby Union and his club, London Wasps, had been in negotiations since the end of the Six Nations campaign.
He had spoken to new England supremo Martin Johnson on Wednesday, but turned that down to stay with Wales.
“The contact with England happened very late,” Edwards told the Western Mail. “I explained that to Martin and I had already give my word to Warren. A handshake is as good as a contract between me and Gats. He is a great friend and work colleague and I’d given my word to him. I wasn’t going to go back on that.........
Ooooh look the Author has opened with he had turned down England!! Shame on you Simon Roberts of the Western Mail. You obviously know nothing about rugby and must be mis-informed.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-n...
And this is what many of your average Welsh rugby fans have to say. Mis-informed of course.
http://forums.icwales.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=44104
PS. The title of this thread is - Good on you Shaun Edwards. Could anybody please tell me how..... "The title of this thread is foolish, wrong and misleading"
“I explained that to Martin and I had already give my word to Warren. A handshake is as good as a contract between me and Gats. He is a great friend and work colleague and I’d given my word to him. I wasn’t going to go back on that.........Edwards: Why I’ve signed for Wales
Apr 11 2008 by Simon Roberts, Western Mail
SHAUN EDWARDS last night revealed why he had turned down England, after committing his future to Wales until the 2011 World Cup in New Zealand.
Wales’ Grand Slam defence coach finally ended the long-running contract saga and signed a three-year-deal to be Warren Gatland’s right-hand man.
Edwards, the Welsh Rugby Union and his club, London Wasps, had been in negotiations since the end of the Six Nations campaign.
He had spoken to new England supremo Martin Johnson on Wednesday, but turned that down to stay with Wales.
“The contact with England happened very late,” Edwards told the Western Mail. “I explained that to Martin and I had already give my word to Warren. A handshake is as good as a contract between me and Gats. He is a great friend and work colleague and I’d given my word to him. I wasn’t going to go back on that.........
Ooooh look the Author has opened with he had turned down England!! Shame on you Simon Roberts of the Western Mail. You obviously know nothing about rugby and must be mis-informed.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-n...
And this is what many of your average Welsh rugby fans have to say. Mis-informed of course.
http://forums.icwales.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=44104
PS. The title of this thread is - Good on you Shaun Edwards. Could anybody please tell me how..... "The title of this thread is foolish, wrong and misleading"
Edited by dickymint on Saturday 12th April 10:34
After the above statement from Edwards can someone please tell me exactly what there was to turn down? He agreed to sign for Wales, he knew he was going to sign for Wales before Eng even approached him. If you ask me, to turn someone or something down, in the context you have put in the title of this thread, surely thee must be at least a 0.1% chance that he was considering it. He has already said he wouldn't even have considered any role within England after given Gats his word. So how is that turning Eng down when it wasn't even an option for him.
The mind boggles
Who are the ENGLISH team you support playing in the football this weekend Mr WELSHY?
Ever seen a therapist about your addiction to band wagon jumping ?
Good on you Shaun Edwards.
stimmers said:
After the above statement from Edwards can someone please tell me exactly what there was to turn down?
Ummmmm 
England!! By the way your comment by admission was with hindsight. In fact most of your responses have been with hindsight.stimmers said:
Who are the ENGLISH team you support playing in the football this weekend Mr WELSHY?
Ever seen a therapist about your addiction to band wagon jumping ?
Manchester United (and Bristol City). If band wagon jumping = life long support then so be it - as stated before where is the problem with that?Ever seen a therapist about your addiction to band wagon jumping ?
Right then, I'm off back to the pub to re-join my Welsh mates to celebrate an easy Ospreys win, Swanseas promotion and Cardiffs win over Blackpool
dickymint said:
stimmers said:
dickymint said:
Well this is what Edwards himself has to say............
Edwards: Why I’ve signed for Wales
Apr 11 2008 by Simon Roberts, Western Mail
SHAUN EDWARDS last night revealed why he had turned down England, after committing his future to Wales until the 2011 World Cup in New Zealand.
Wales’ Grand Slam defence coach finally ended the long-running contract saga and signed a three-year-deal to be Warren Gatland’s right-hand man.
Edwards, the Welsh Rugby Union and his club, London Wasps, had been in negotiations since the end of the Six Nations campaign.
He had spoken to new England supremo Martin Johnson on Wednesday, but turned that down to stay with Wales.
“The contact with England happened very late,” Edwards told the Western Mail. “I explained that to Martin and I had already give my word to Warren. A handshake is as good as a contract between me and Gats. He is a great friend and work colleague and I’d given my word to him. I wasn’t going to go back on that.........
Ooooh look the Author has opened with he had turned down England!! Shame on you Simon Roberts of the Western Mail. You obviously know nothing about rugby and must be mis-informed.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-n...
And this is what many of your average Welsh rugby fans have to say. Mis-informed of course.
http://forums.icwales.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=44104
PS. The title of this thread is - Good on you Shaun Edwards. Could anybody please tell me how..... "The title of this thread is foolish, wrong and misleading"
“I explained that to Martin and I had already give my word to Warren. A handshake is as good as a contract between me and Gats. He is a great friend and work colleague and I’d given my word to him. I wasn’t going to go back on that.........Edwards: Why I’ve signed for Wales
Apr 11 2008 by Simon Roberts, Western Mail
SHAUN EDWARDS last night revealed why he had turned down England, after committing his future to Wales until the 2011 World Cup in New Zealand.
Wales’ Grand Slam defence coach finally ended the long-running contract saga and signed a three-year-deal to be Warren Gatland’s right-hand man.
Edwards, the Welsh Rugby Union and his club, London Wasps, had been in negotiations since the end of the Six Nations campaign.
He had spoken to new England supremo Martin Johnson on Wednesday, but turned that down to stay with Wales.
“The contact with England happened very late,” Edwards told the Western Mail. “I explained that to Martin and I had already give my word to Warren. A handshake is as good as a contract between me and Gats. He is a great friend and work colleague and I’d given my word to him. I wasn’t going to go back on that.........
Ooooh look the Author has opened with he had turned down England!! Shame on you Simon Roberts of the Western Mail. You obviously know nothing about rugby and must be mis-informed.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-n...
And this is what many of your average Welsh rugby fans have to say. Mis-informed of course.
http://forums.icwales.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=44104
PS. The title of this thread is - Good on you Shaun Edwards. Could anybody please tell me how..... "The title of this thread is foolish, wrong and misleading"
Edited by dickymint on Saturday 12th April 10:34
After the above statement from Edwards can someone please tell me exactly what there was to turn down? He agreed to sign for Wales, he knew he was going to sign for Wales before Eng even approached him. If you ask me, to turn someone or something down, in the context you have put in the title of this thread, surely thee must be at least a 0.1% chance that he was considering it. He has already said he wouldn't even have considered any role within England after given Gats his word. So how is that turning Eng down when it wasn't even an option for him.
The mind boggles
Who are the ENGLISH team you support playing in the football this weekend Mr WELSHY?
Ever seen a therapist about your addiction to band wagon jumping ?
Good on you Shaun Edwards.
stimmers said:
After the above statement from Edwards can someone please tell me exactly what there was to turn down?
Ummmmm England!! By the way your comment by admission was with hindsight. In fact most of your responses have been with hindsight.stimmers said:
Who are the ENGLISH team you support playing in the football this weekend Mr WELSHY?
Ever seen a therapist about your addiction to band wagon jumping ?
Manchester United (and Bristol City). If band wagon jumping = life long support then so be it - as stated before where is the problem with that?Ever seen a therapist about your addiction to band wagon jumping ?
Right then, I'm off back to the pub to re-join my Welsh mates to celebrate an easy Ospreys win, Swanseas promotion and Cardiffs win over Blackpool
So in football you support Manchester United, Bristol Ciy, Swansea, Cardiff and im guessing Wales? (could be any country)
In Rugby you support Wales and the Ospreys. Notice you didn't say anything about the Osprey's getting dumped out of the HC by Sarries last weekend??? Do you only sing when your winning and standing on the band wagon???
Brilliant, can't write this stuff.
Edited by stimmers on Saturday 12th April 18:19
stimmers said:
Mr Edd said:
Also being misinformed average person. I don’t see a problem with the title.
Why would you want to work with England at the moment?
Why would you want to work with England?Why would you want to work with England at the moment?
1) Your English
2) Your one of the biggest rugby Nations in the World
3) Your THE most succesful team outside of the NH
4) There is massive potential
5) There are alot of young and seriously talented players coming through
6) These players should be peaking around WC 2011
7) You get paid more than any other Coach in the world
8) You have more players to choose from than any other nation on earth
9) You have more money available than any other nation on earth
10) Gatland and Edwards took charge of Wasps when they were at the bottom of the Prem. They saw potential in th players and wanted the challenge, someone, (Johnson) could see the same in Eng.
1) Interfering management
2) Francis baron
3) Stupid rolling contracts
4) Management that want to make decisions
stimmers said:
hornetrider said:
Just what is your point, or are you just gonna post on this thread all day???
My point is pretty obvious. If you have missed it, thats not my fault.No, i went to Twickenham to watch the EDF Rugby thanks.
Oh, tell me you don't post on this forum with your Blackberry. Otherwise, you posted on here at 2.15pm and got to your seat in HQ in time for kick off at 2.30. Impressive.
hornetrider said:
stimmers said:
hornetrider said:
Just what is your point, or are you just gonna post on this thread all day???
My point is pretty obvious. If you have missed it, thats not my fault.No, i went to Twickenham to watch the EDF Rugby thanks.
Oh, tell me you don't post on this forum with your Blackberry. Otherwise, you posted on here at 2.15pm and got to your seat in HQ in time for kick off at 2.30. Impressive.
I have an iphone, i was on the train to Twickenham, i was listening to music and using the internet. I find it more interesting that staring out the window or at other people on the train. Happy now?
Was a good day out thanks. Game was poor, the basic errors on both sides were shocking and Tigers were totally outplayed in every department, Ospreys, while not being that great themselves, picked their game up in the 2nd half and deserved their victory. Well done to them and their supporters. Unlike some i can and always have congratulated the opposition when they win and play better rugby. Thats part of the appeal is that 99% of rugby supporters i have ever met are decent, honest people who are gracious (dickmint has obviously never heard this word before) in victory and defeat and can see past any bias they may have. Thats why im glad i've never met anyone like you or dickmint in a rugby stadium, would sour the whole affair.
I don't find much use in gloating if thats what you were attempting to do. I thought Dickmint had a patent on gloating and being a poor supporter (whilst supporting any team that wins or starts doing well), seems i was wrong. Oh and yet another proud Welshman who 'supports' an English football team rather than his home town Welsh team. Impressive.
Edited by stimmers on Saturday 12th April 21:00
Edited by stimmers on Saturday 12th April 21:01
Mr Edd said:
stimmers said:
Mr Edd said:
Also being misinformed average person. I don’t see a problem with the title.
Why would you want to work with England at the moment?
Why would you want to work with England?Why would you want to work with England at the moment?
1) Your English
2) Your one of the biggest rugby Nations in the World
3) Your THE most succesful team outside of the NH
4) There is massive potential
5) There are alot of young and seriously talented players coming through
6) These players should be peaking around WC 2011
7) You get paid more than any other Coach in the world
8) You have more players to choose from than any other nation on earth
9) You have more money available than any other nation on earth
10) Gatland and Edwards took charge of Wasps when they were at the bottom of the Prem. They saw potential in th players and wanted the challenge, someone, (Johnson) could see the same in Eng.
1) Interfering management
2) Francis baron
3) Stupid rolling contracts
4) Management that want to make decisions
Still doesn't detract from the job though, its one of the top 5 jobs in rugby
stimmers said:
Mr Edd said:
Also being misinformed average person. I don’t see a problem with the title.
Why would you want to work with England at the moment?
Why would you want to work with England?Why would you want to work with England at the moment?
1) Your English
2) Your one of the biggest rugby Nations in the World
3) Your THE most succesful team outside of the NH
4) There is massive potential
5) There are alot of young and seriously talented players coming through
6) These players should be peaking around WC 2011
7) You get paid more than any other Coach in the world
8) You have more players to choose from than any other nation on earth
9) You have more money available than any other nation on earth
10) Gatland and Edwards took charge of Wasps when they were at the bottom of the Prem. They saw potential in th players and wanted the challenge, someone, (Johnson) could see the same in Eng.
Looking back at the past 4 6n games Eng v Wales England have lost 3 won 1 - Wales need some tougher competition. I did ROFLOL in Aug07 when Wales announced they were going to filed a total test 3/4 string team then England following that a few days later decided they were going to filed a first choice side.... result it benefited neither side. Why did they do it.... leave it to you to decide.
Llosgar nhw
Welshbeef said:
stimmers said:
Mr Edd said:
Also being misinformed average person. I don’t see a problem with the title.
Why would you want to work with England at the moment?
Why would you want to work with England?Why would you want to work with England at the moment?
1) Your English
2) Your one of the biggest rugby Nations in the World
3) Your THE most succesful team outside of the NH
4) There is massive potential
5) There are alot of young and seriously talented players coming through
6) These players should be peaking around WC 2011
7) You get paid more than any other Coach in the world
8) You have more players to choose from than any other nation on earth
9) You have more money available than any other nation on earth
10) Gatland and Edwards took charge of Wasps when they were at the bottom of the Prem. They saw potential in th players and wanted the challenge, someone, (Johnson) could see the same in Eng.
Looking back at the past 4 6n games Eng v Wales England have lost 3 won 1 - Wales need some tougher competition. I did ROFLOL in Aug07 when Wales announced they were going to filed a total test 3/4 string team then England following that a few days later decided they were going to filed a first choice side.... result it benefited neither side. Why did they do it.... leave it to you to decide.
Llosgar nhw
Did you forget about WC's in your 'Eng are only just the best team in the NH' 3 World Cup Finals, Once Champions of the Word, 1 semi final. Not to mention records vs the SH which no other NH team has got near to achieving, i think Eng's best run was 14 straight wins, home and away vs SH opposition.
I rest my case your honour
WC is a very new tournament all true Rugby fans will fully agree along with the SH that the European Championship (6nations) is the pinacle of the Sport.
If you were preparing the outer fringes of a team and the pposition stated they were fdoing the same then they announce a 3/4th string team why would you select a near on 1st choice team... thats pretty risky and a total mismatch/pointless game
If you were preparing the outer fringes of a team and the pposition stated they were fdoing the same then they announce a 3/4th string team why would you select a near on 1st choice team... thats pretty risky and a total mismatch/pointless game
Welshbeef said:
WC is a very new tournament all true Rugby fans will fully agree along with the SH that the European Championship (6nations) is the pinacle of the Sport.
If you were preparing the outer fringes of a team and the pposition stated they were fdoing the same then they announce a 3/4th string team why would you select a near on 1st choice team... thats pretty risky and a total mismatch/pointless game
I cannot agree with or see any sort of sense in your post.If you were preparing the outer fringes of a team and the pposition stated they were fdoing the same then they announce a 3/4th string team why would you select a near on 1st choice team... thats pretty risky and a total mismatch/pointless game
1) The rugby world cup has been the ultimate prize in rugby since 1987. ANY and i mean ANY rugby supporter the world over knows the World Cup is THE tournament to win. For god's sake it crowns the CHAMPIONS OF THE WORLD. How can it not be the ultimate prize in rugby. You think winning a tournament that doesan not included the 3 best teams in the world is the pinnacle of rugby. Thats laughable
2) Why were Wales preparing an 'outer fringes of a team' in a world cup warm up game? Eng had three warm up games, two vs France and 1 vs Wales. Before a ball was kicked Eng said they would be fielding as strong a team as possible on all games with only slight changes to the starting 15. France fielded two strong teams. Wales made their own decisions. As i say, the World Cup results speak for themselves as to which method was more productive. Wales had a coach to rival the stupidty of Andy Robinson - prehaps thats why you fielded a weak team and had 60 points put on you.
England fielded a first choice team because they said they would way before the game and it was a game very close to a world cup - why wouldn't you play the players that will be involved in the World Cup to get them match fit.
You don't know much about this game do you ?
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