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Amazing fight.
Makhachev the only fighter to follow up a knockdown. Oliveira taken somewhat by surprise that Makhachev went directly for a submission. I think we all were. Masterclass of a finish.
Oliveira looked worried about the takedown and couldn't let his hands go.
These Dagestanis are a different breed.
Makhachev the only fighter to follow up a knockdown. Oliveira taken somewhat by surprise that Makhachev went directly for a submission. I think we all were. Masterclass of a finish.
Oliveira looked worried about the takedown and couldn't let his hands go.
These Dagestanis are a different breed.
mikebradford said:
Wow main event was amazing. Both fighters looking good, but that was pure class.
As soon as they walked in I thought Islam was looking big. Pretty much stunned Charles with the first punch and I had a good feeling i'd be losing my money tonight.I'm not sure that I see anyone taking the belt off him for years. Volkanovski is too small and the weight difference on fight night will be huge.
dalzo said:
Could we see Islam fight khamzat at 170?
That would be an amazing fight, and with khamzat fighting islams team last night would add a little bit of the grudge element to it.
No.That would be an amazing fight, and with khamzat fighting islams team last night would add a little bit of the grudge element to it.
He'll do exactly the same as Khabib did. Heavy weight cuts and dominate the division for years without moving up.
Khamzat obviously is not going to physically be able to come down to the division so they'll never meet in the octagon.
dalzo said:
Could we see Islam fight khamzat at 170?
That would be an amazing fight, and with khamzat fighting islams team last night would add a little bit of the grudge element to it.
Kadyrov, the Chechen leader, made them make up. See the video with Khabib leading the conversation and confirming the boys had made their peace. They all - including Khamzat - are standing there like school boys. Its great I thinkThat would be an amazing fight, and with khamzat fighting islams team last night would add a little bit of the grudge element to it.
https://www.mmamania.com/2022/10/23/23419078/kadyr...
DocJock said:
I felt that Yan got a harsh decision. I had him winning that one. Nothing going right for him since he kneed Sterling on the ground.
Let's be honest....Sterling faked it when he got kneed. Granted, Yan should have known better but Sterling absolutely milked the situation and won a title out of it. In the rematch Yan lost fair and square to Sterling. Then he got absolutely robbed against O'Malley. I saw a video on YouTube where the commentator said with the scoring system that Yan wasn't really developing the position when on top and that there's a case with the scoring system for O'Malley to win. I still think Yan won that 29-28 and even O'Malley was surprised.
Big card tonight. I've gone and backed Periera in the main event.
Pereira's going to come out looking big on fight night once he's rehydrated. I don't see the fight going to the ground and Pereira's got the history of winning against Adesanya. I also think that some of Adesanya's recent performances have been weak. There's too much value not to back Pereira all things considered in my opinion although maybe Adesanya can take it to a points decision and win on that. Either way, 2-1 on Pereira felt like a good bet.
Poirier should beat Chandler pretty competently. I don't see anywhere Chandler wins that fight.
Pereira's going to come out looking big on fight night once he's rehydrated. I don't see the fight going to the ground and Pereira's got the history of winning against Adesanya. I also think that some of Adesanya's recent performances have been weak. There's too much value not to back Pereira all things considered in my opinion although maybe Adesanya can take it to a points decision and win on that. Either way, 2-1 on Pereira felt like a good bet.
Poirier should beat Chandler pretty competently. I don't see anywhere Chandler wins that fight.
Rooting for Pereira. Adesanya likely to run all fight. Tag and run. I hope Pereira lands that dynamite left hook. Lights out if that lands.
Chandler Vs Poirier is really interesting. Will chandler rediscover his wrestling? Or does his ego continue to get in the way, he gets over excited by the crowd and chases a stand-up war? He's super exciting but can't control his energy and therefore comes across as a guy with no gameplan.
I don't think either of these guys should be given a title fight. They need to reestablish themselves, like Gaethje. Those 3 are the old guard unless they can reinvent themselves.
Chandler Vs Poirier is really interesting. Will chandler rediscover his wrestling? Or does his ego continue to get in the way, he gets over excited by the crowd and chases a stand-up war? He's super exciting but can't control his energy and therefore comes across as a guy with no gameplan.
I don't think either of these guys should be given a title fight. They need to reestablish themselves, like Gaethje. Those 3 are the old guard unless they can reinvent themselves.
I only caught up with the Main Event but the result was as I expected. I was surprised to see it go to the ground in Round 3 & Pereira looked clueless. The easy route to victory would be to to take Pereira down every round even though he landed a nasty elbow from the bottom. Pereira's corner gave him a good talking to at end of Round 4 which seemed to do the job and make him come out swinging in the final round.
On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
g4ry13 said:
I only caught up with the Main Event but the result was as I expected. I was surprised to see it go to the ground in Round 3 & Pereira looked clueless. The easy route to victory would be to to take Pereira down every round even though he landed a nasty elbow from the bottom. Pereira's corner gave him a good talking to at end of Round 4 which seemed to do the job and make him come out swinging in the final round.
On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
When was McGregor ever really at the top? Hype job, master of self promotion and lucky America had so many who claim Irish descendancy. He was found out PDQ. On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
biggbn said:
g4ry13 said:
I only caught up with the Main Event but the result was as I expected. I was surprised to see it go to the ground in Round 3 & Pereira looked clueless. The easy route to victory would be to to take Pereira down every round even though he landed a nasty elbow from the bottom. Pereira's corner gave him a good talking to at end of Round 4 which seemed to do the job and make him come out swinging in the final round.
On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
When was McGregor ever really at the top? Hype job, master of self promotion and lucky America had so many who claim Irish descendancy. He was found out PDQ. On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
The UFC did promote him heavily and he's obviously a master of self promotion too which has managed to get him fights he really shouldn't have been given.
g4ry13 said:
biggbn said:
g4ry13 said:
I only caught up with the Main Event but the result was as I expected. I was surprised to see it go to the ground in Round 3 & Pereira looked clueless. The easy route to victory would be to to take Pereira down every round even though he landed a nasty elbow from the bottom. Pereira's corner gave him a good talking to at end of Round 4 which seemed to do the job and make him come out swinging in the final round.
On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
When was McGregor ever really at the top? Hype job, master of self promotion and lucky America had so many who claim Irish descendancy. He was found out PDQ. On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
The UFC did promote him heavily and he's obviously a master of self promotion too which has managed to get him fights he really shouldn't have been given.
g4ry13 said:
I only caught up with the Main Event but the result was as I expected. I was surprised to see it go to the ground in Round 3 & Pereira looked clueless. The easy route to victory would be to to take Pereira down every round even though he landed a nasty elbow from the bottom. Pereira's corner gave him a good talking to at end of Round 4 which seemed to do the job and make him come out swinging in the final round.
On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
'Mixed' martial arts can also means jack of all trades and master of none. Depth in one discipline can still get you far if you're really good. Leon Edwards is a striker who just did that with Kamaru Usman, for example. Mixed martial arts is intriguing because you can see which styles dominate. Generally wrestlers with good striking seem to offer the most balance, but that's odds and percentages, not a rule. On the feet Israel had no apparent advantage and Pereira has crazy power. If Pereira plans to dominate the division then he really needs to become a more well rounded fighter. In a rematch I'd expect Israel to focus on takedowns and maybe win by rear naked choke
It's quite astonishing that in the world of Mixed Martial arts that these one-dimensional fighters (Rousey / McGregor / Adesanya) were able to enjoy a fairly long reign at the top. I know McGregor is a dinosaur now and Rousey is done but they managed to hold titles for years. Khabib was probably one of the best well-rounded fighters even though most of his fights ended up on the ground with him dominating.
Wrestling is a sport, like gymnastics, that you can't really get great at unless you start as a child/pre-teen. So it seems to be a good differentiator amongst fighters. But bear in mind, many good wrestlers have failed to make a dent in UFC.
Anyway, it's still intriguing to watch a world class kickboxer Vs a wrestler. That will probably be Pereira Vs Whitaker next. Some wrestlers forget how to wrestle (Chandler)!
This weekend's UFC card was one of the best I've ever seen, enjoyed it from start to finish
also, whilst Adesanya etc are predominantly specialists in a certain area, don't confuse that with them not being proficient in other areas as if you're not then you don't have the option to keep the fight in your area, you at least need to be good enough to stop the other disciplines
Really sad news about Rumble, I had the pleasure of meeting him once when he was a guest at an MMA competition i was part of at a Bodypower expo in about 2009. the first guy I've ever seen smash two foot long Subways as though they were nothing. he was a lovely, humble bloke and at complete odds with the savage he was when in the cage
also, whilst Adesanya etc are predominantly specialists in a certain area, don't confuse that with them not being proficient in other areas as if you're not then you don't have the option to keep the fight in your area, you at least need to be good enough to stop the other disciplines
Really sad news about Rumble, I had the pleasure of meeting him once when he was a guest at an MMA competition i was part of at a Bodypower expo in about 2009. the first guy I've ever seen smash two foot long Subways as though they were nothing. he was a lovely, humble bloke and at complete odds with the savage he was when in the cage
Sergei Pavlovich demolished Tai Tuivasa in under a minute last night.
After wins over Derrick Lewis and Tai he's got to be in the picture for a title fight. It's a shame Aspinall got injured as that would have been an interesting bout.
From what i've seen, Sergei has good striking and a strong sambo / wrestling background. I expect him to hold a belt if he gets the fight.
After wins over Derrick Lewis and Tai he's got to be in the picture for a title fight. It's a shame Aspinall got injured as that would have been an interesting bout.
From what i've seen, Sergei has good striking and a strong sambo / wrestling background. I expect him to hold a belt if he gets the fight.
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