Giugiaro Esprit Engine Swap...

Giugiaro Esprit Engine Swap...

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OSMojo

98 posts

75 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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Resurrecting this post as maybe now there are more options to the OPs question.
So is there an engine that can straight replace without too much hassle the piece of ste that is the S2/S1 engine.
Here's a photo of my S2 before I sold it.



4321go

638 posts

187 months

Saturday 16th July 2022
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Very nice. But shouldn’t you be dropping a dead fish out of the window scratchchin

ds666

2,635 posts

179 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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OSMojo said:
Resurrecting this post as maybe now there are more options to the OPs question.
So is there an engine that can straight replace without too much hassle the piece of ste that is the S2/S1 engine.
Here's a photo of my S2 before I sold it.


I’m restoring an s2 and have put a later (912) engine in , out to 2.5l , running around 240bhp .
The torque with that is around the limit for the gearbox (210lb ft ) .

OSMojo

98 posts

75 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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ds666 said:
I’m restoring an s2 and have put a later (912) engine in , out to 2.5l , running around 240bhp .
The torque with that is around the limit for the gearbox (210lb ft ) .
So is that just a straight swap then? Do you have any photos?

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

176 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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OSMojo said:
Resurrecting this post as maybe now there are more options to the OPs question.
OP asked his question in 2007, do you think he's still alive?

OSMojo

98 posts

75 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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ReverendCounter said:
OP asked his question in 2007, do you think he's still alive?
Ah I see you're a Reverend! you want that funeral commission huh?

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

176 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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OSMojo said:
ReverendCounter said:
OP asked his question in 2007, do you think he's still alive?
Ah I see you're a Reverend! you want that funeral commission huh?


However I might consider a change in career if it's reasonably well paid!

ds666

2,635 posts

179 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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OSMojo said:
ds666 said:
I’m restoring an s2 and have put a later (912) engine in , out to 2.5l , running around 240bhp .
The torque with that is around the limit for the gearbox (210lb ft ) .
So is that just a straight swap then? Do you have any photos?
Straight(ish) swap

OSMojo

98 posts

75 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Wow that is thorough.

CTE

1,488 posts

240 months

Monday 25th July 2022
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I`m considering something similar with my car... who did the engine work for you? My car gearbox has an overdrive label on the gear knob, but no overdrive, so only 4 gears. Is this correct?? I guess it is possible to swap to a later 5 speed box??

ds666

2,635 posts

179 months

Monday 25th July 2022
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CTE said:
I`m considering something similar with my car... who did the engine work for you? My car gearbox has an overdrive label on the gear knob, but no overdrive, so only 4 gears. Is this correct?? I guess it is possible to swap to a later 5 speed box??
Lotusbits .
s1/2 gearbox is 5 speed

CTE

1,488 posts

240 months

Tuesday 26th July 2022
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My car is an S3... ?

CTE

1,488 posts

240 months

Tuesday 26th July 2022
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Spoken with Lotusbits thanks and it appears my car should have a 5th overdrive. Looks like a trip to them will be required at some point!

Cold

15,247 posts

90 months

Tuesday 26th July 2022
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CTE said:
Spoken with Lotusbits thanks and it appears my car should have a 5th overdrive. Looks like a trip to them will be required at some point!
Your car has a 5 speed box. The overdrive label on the gearknob is just an old fashioned throwback. All road going Esprits from 1976 to 2003 left the factory with a five speed box.

The overdrive labelling simply refers to the ratio of the gearing being used. Anything less than 1:1 would be considered an overdrive. (I think it's 0.76:1 in 5th on an S3)

V1nce Fox

5,508 posts

68 months

Tuesday 26th July 2022
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I know i’m going to eat st for this, but these were one of the first cars i thought of for a tesla conversion.

BertBert

19,039 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th July 2022
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CTE said:
Spoken with Lotusbits thanks and it appears my car should have a 5th overdrive. Looks like a trip to them will be required at some point!
If you've only got 4 of your 5 forward gears let's hope it's a shift linkage problem not a box problem.

What happens if you try to change to 5th?

CTE

1,488 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th July 2022
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When I try to select 5th it simply feels like the movement is blocked... I spoke with Matt at Lotusbits yesterday and he thought the fact that I could select reverse absolutely fine indicated it was more likely to be a cable adjustment issue...but... ?? It had a new clutch last year and the gear selection is as before...pity they did not mention the lack of a 5th gear when the car was stripped down!

I`m prepared for the worst but I`m deliberating just how far to go with it all. I can happily potter about the lanes of Norfolk as the car is so do I keep the costs to a minimum (properly sort a cam cover oil leak and get the carbs serviced) or do I spend thousands getting everything sorted perfectly but in the knowledge that it would be an investment never to be recuperated??

ds666

2,635 posts

179 months

Thursday 28th July 2022
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Best get the linkage set up checked . Quite a few bushes that wear and I think the set up is key

evojam

568 posts

160 months

Saturday 1st October 2022
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Tempted to send my S3 n/a to Dynotorque for a new crate GM LS3 with a few extra goodies for around 510bhp and a quiet exhaust for a nice sleeper setup,might suprise a few of these young whippersnappers in their hot hatches!

ds666

2,635 posts

179 months

Sunday 2nd October 2022
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evojam said:
Tempted to send my S3 n/a to Dynotorque for a new crate GM LS3 with a few extra goodies for around 510bhp and a quiet exhaust for a nice sleeper setup,might suprise a few of these young whippersnappers in their hot hatches!
Which gearbox would you use ?