Kinrara Thursday Ballot
Discussion
willy wombat said:
It would be nice if the ballot(s) gave priority to long standing members.
So ballots. Kinrara has been balloted for 2 years and I’ve lucked in both times. Ballots for visits I’ve lucked in once in 8-9 years and that was last year (anyone remember when it used to be first to phone at 10am and call at 10am and all gone?)
Ian Wegg said:
But that's not what you said. The Kinrara ballot for Thursday may be a dilution of benefits, that is what this thread is about.
Adding a new enclosure, shared or otherwise, is in no way a further dilution.
As to Fellowship Members also having access, until recently the startline enclosure was open to the public on Thursday.
Being given access to what will almost certainly be an overcrowded enclosure in place of Kinrara access is clearly a dilution of benefits, however you/the GRRC want to dress it up.Adding a new enclosure, shared or otherwise, is in no way a further dilution.
As to Fellowship Members also having access, until recently the startline enclosure was open to the public on Thursday.
Edited by Ian Wegg on Tuesday 11th July 17:12
Martin315 said:
Being given access to what will almost certainly be an overcrowded enclosure in place of Kinrara access is clearly a dilution of benefits, however you/the GRRC want to dress it up.
I'm not trying to dress anything up, merely pointing out the obvious fault in your logic. I agree it is definitely a dilution of benefits. One of the good points about Kinrara is the grandstand which you’re not going to have at the new GRRC enclosure. The more I think about it, the fairer it seems to me to gave Kinrara Thursday access on the basis of length of GRRC membership as a reward.
Martin315 said:
I think it’s your logic that’s faulty. Or maybe you work for Goodwood and are trying to argue black is white.
I don't work for Goodwood. I don't even have a particular view on the ballot. You may well be correct that the situation [i]as a whole]/i] is an overall reduction in benefits. But that isn't what you posted. Ian Wegg said:
I don't work for Goodwood. I don't even have a particular view on the ballot. You may well be correct that the situation [i]as a whole]/i] is an overall reduction in benefits. But that isn't what you posted.
You’re either being wilfully obtuse or are not very bright.Either way, I’m not going to bother explaining it to you again.
Tried the “new” GRRC enclosure yesterday. Got seats inside at about 1400 ok although it was busy. No chance of seats outside Queues varied. Problem is that you can’t see any action on the track (other than TVs) which makes it significantly less attractive than Kinrara. Toilets were nice though. Still a significant diminution of GRRC benefits. Can anyone who was in Kinrara yesterday tell us how busy it was?
Now that the dust has settled would be interested to hear from the previous posters who were successful in the Kinrara Thursday ballot how busy it was when they went. I have a lot of friends in the GRRC but only one of them was successful in the ballot. He went at about 1600 and says it was pretty empty then.
There all day Thursday and whilst busy, it wasn’t overcrowded and there always seemed to be tables available outside.
Service a little on the slow slide; ‘‘twas ever thus and not helped by the fact that they have the world’s slowest coffee machines.
Not sure there is a way of managing numbers that will keep everyone happy, but definitely a better experience as a result.
Service a little on the slow slide; ‘‘twas ever thus and not helped by the fact that they have the world’s slowest coffee machines.
Not sure there is a way of managing numbers that will keep everyone happy, but definitely a better experience as a result.
The problem with the ballot is it doesn’t work for the casual user. I like to drop a bag of and have a coffee then pop to my bag throughout the day, if I’m nearby and there’s an interesting batch I’ll pop in to watch but otherwise I’m not there. That means I take up a space for someone who wants to be there all day.
ecsrobin said:
The problem with the ballot is it doesn’t work for the casual user. I like to drop a bag of and have a coffee then pop to my bag throughout the day, if I’m nearby and there’s an interesting batch I’ll pop in to watch but otherwise I’m not there. That means I take up a space for someone who wants to be there all day.
This 100%.I didn't actually go this year, partly because of the way the Kinrara enclosure now works.
Previously it has made it more of an event for me, but as escrobin says, I normally only pop in, grab a beer then I am off for the rest of the day.
I entered the ballot, wasn't successful, but if I had have been, then a 'place' would have been available all day to me, thereby denying others the access for the other 10 hours that I was elsewhere.
It is another erosion of benefits.
Martin315 said:
Being given access to what will almost certainly be an overcrowded enclosure in place of Kinrara access is clearly a dilution of benefits, however you/the GRRC want to dress it up.
Well, I went on both the Friday and Sunday - and had no issues in terms of overcrowding. That was quite a bold prediction from the previous poster. And also completely wrong.jmwalkeruk said:
Well, I went on both the Friday and Sunday - and had no issues in terms of overcrowding. That was quite a bold prediction from the previous poster. And also completely wrong.
Friday in Kinara was terribly overcrowded with the heavy rain, 80% of covered area (not including the grandstand) was empty but only available if you paid for food……..complete rip off in my opinion…..jmwalkeruk said:
Martin315 said:
Being given access to what will almost certainly be an overcrowded enclosure in place of Kinrara access is clearly a dilution of benefits, however you/the GRRC want to dress it up.
Well, I went on both the Friday and Sunday - and had no issues in terms of overcrowding. That was quite a bold prediction from the previous poster. And also completely wrong.If there is anything more to be said then perhaps there should be a separate thread for the new PitStop enclosures as it is clouding the issue here.
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