Going to kill my f£$%^& bike!! Brake issues
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or should I say my f£$%^& bike is going to kill me!!
I have/had Hayes So1e brakes, never particulally great but always stopped me okay. Today got my bike out to have a ride after a bit of a lay off from biking, and when I pulled the brakes, both calipers basically collapsed and all pressure was lost, and fluid was p'eeing out everywhere from both of them.
Couldnt believe both went at the same time, and very lucky I wasnt bombing along at any sort of speed or these could have been the death of me.
But the news gets worse, after my initial surprise of a double failure, I googled something like "Hayes So1e leaking fluid calipers" and turns out these have a terrible reputation and people have had double falures before.
Ive decided to change them for something better, since brakes are just a tad important, so thought Id get the old ones off today while I have some time.
Bloody hell, cant get them off!! I bought some Peaty lock on grips last year, fitted them very well, and now I cant get the tiny allen key bolts undone!! they are stuck solid!! After about 2 attempts they are quite rounded, so getting a hold on them is near impossible, and to add to my pain, the tiny allen key then broke off inside the bolt, flush, so I now cant do anything with it!!
Ive been faffing with this for ages, neither grip is loosenable, the brakes are stuck behind the grips so cant come off, and im about ready to buy a hack saw and saw the bloody handlebars in half!!
Any ideas? I cant think of any way to get them off, maybe some brute force to twist the grips and try and break the clamps? bolt cutters to cut the metal collars?
What a relaxing way to spend Sunday afternoon, went from going for a ride, to spending ages trying to remnove the unremovable.
If/when I get the things off, any ideas on what brakes to look at? maybe up to £100 for a set, thinking mechanical as opposed to hydraulic, or maybe used hydraulic ones? but let me know your thoughts.
I have/had Hayes So1e brakes, never particulally great but always stopped me okay. Today got my bike out to have a ride after a bit of a lay off from biking, and when I pulled the brakes, both calipers basically collapsed and all pressure was lost, and fluid was p'eeing out everywhere from both of them.
Couldnt believe both went at the same time, and very lucky I wasnt bombing along at any sort of speed or these could have been the death of me.
But the news gets worse, after my initial surprise of a double failure, I googled something like "Hayes So1e leaking fluid calipers" and turns out these have a terrible reputation and people have had double falures before.
Ive decided to change them for something better, since brakes are just a tad important, so thought Id get the old ones off today while I have some time.
Bloody hell, cant get them off!! I bought some Peaty lock on grips last year, fitted them very well, and now I cant get the tiny allen key bolts undone!! they are stuck solid!! After about 2 attempts they are quite rounded, so getting a hold on them is near impossible, and to add to my pain, the tiny allen key then broke off inside the bolt, flush, so I now cant do anything with it!!
Ive been faffing with this for ages, neither grip is loosenable, the brakes are stuck behind the grips so cant come off, and im about ready to buy a hack saw and saw the bloody handlebars in half!!
Any ideas? I cant think of any way to get them off, maybe some brute force to twist the grips and try and break the clamps? bolt cutters to cut the metal collars?
What a relaxing way to spend Sunday afternoon, went from going for a ride, to spending ages trying to remnove the unremovable.
If/when I get the things off, any ideas on what brakes to look at? maybe up to £100 for a set, thinking mechanical as opposed to hydraulic, or maybe used hydraulic ones? but let me know your thoughts.
I ended up sawingthrough the ring clamps on the grips, unfortunately I couldnt get a good cut on the brakes themselves.
That means a new set of brakes required, and new grips, guess it's been an expensive and unproductive day of not cycling
Looked at the Shimano Deore M596, but reviews are quite poor for them,I think my price range is either not very good hydraulic brakes, or decent mechanical ones.
That means a new set of brakes required, and new grips, guess it's been an expensive and unproductive day of not cycling
Looked at the Shimano Deore M596, but reviews are quite poor for them,I think my price range is either not very good hydraulic brakes, or decent mechanical ones.
Edited by Tokoloshe on Sunday 24th July 19:00
Deores, much like all Shimano brakes, are fine: anyone who says they're difficult to bleed is an idiot. If for whatever reason you're still put off, then if you can scrape together £150, these:
http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Bike+Shop/MTB++Parts...
...are quite possibly some of the best brakes around, irrespective of price. Powerful, reliable, easy to work on. Run them on my XC bike, run them on my DH/Alps bike with NO issues whatsoever with (shamefully) zero maintenance.
http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Bike+Shop/MTB++Parts...
...are quite possibly some of the best brakes around, irrespective of price. Powerful, reliable, easy to work on. Run them on my XC bike, run them on my DH/Alps bike with NO issues whatsoever with (shamefully) zero maintenance.
Edited by Jimbo. on Sunday 24th July 19:08
Tokoloshe said:
I ended up sawingthrough the ring clamps on the grips, unfortunately I couldnt get a good cut on the brakes themselves.
That means a new set of brakes required, and new grips, guess it's been an expensive and unproductive day of not cycling
Looked at the Shimano Deore M596, but reviews are quite poor for them,I think my price range is either not very good hydraulic brakes, or decent mechanical ones.
Bad reviews? They haven't even fully hit the shelves yet in complete sets.That means a new set of brakes required, and new grips, guess it's been an expensive and unproductive day of not cycling
Looked at the Shimano Deore M596, but reviews are quite poor for them,I think my price range is either not very good hydraulic brakes, or decent mechanical ones.
Edited by Tokoloshe on Sunday 24th July 19:00
The M596 is an improvement on the M595, using the same calliper, but an improved lever. The M595 is not a bad buy either; you'll find very few negative reviews about them. I've used a M595 set and recently the M596 lever on the M595 calliper, they are much better than the comparative Avid Juicy 3.
You get reach adjustment and one way bleeding. They use mineral oil, which is a plus point for me, if they need servicing.
Edited by Beyond Rational on Sunday 24th July 23:08
Yep, buy shimano if you want no fuss, reliable good brakes. I have had a few sets of Deore m595 and they have been fantastic, never missed a beat.
The m596 is just the newer version with the servo wave levers similar to the SLX model brake.
Dont go to mechanical after you have had hydros.
I dont think anyone has M596s in stock though, i tried a couple of weeks back.
The m596 is just the newer version with the servo wave levers similar to the SLX model brake.
Dont go to mechanical after you have had hydros.
I dont think anyone has M596s in stock though, i tried a couple of weeks back.
I can only imagine I looked at the wrong product yesterday, I wasn't having a great afternoon so obviously got it wrong, was sure I copied the Shimano Deore M596 into google and one of the main sellers had about 3 reviews on them, all negative, but going back through now you're right, only just released and no reviews about, my mistake.
Will pick up a set when they come in stock, they sound ideal.
Will pick up a set when they come in stock, they sound ideal.
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