Stuck Seat Tube

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TheBALDpuma

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5,842 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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I have mainly been riding my Stanton on DJs, BMX tracks and a bit of light DH runs over the last few months, and this weekend went over to Gizburn to find that my seat post is well and truly stuck! I tried taking the saddle off and using a massive adjustable spanner to get some twist into it, it wouldn't budge, even with two of us tugging. It is well and truly stuck in there. I have been periodically dousing with WD40 and GT85 to try and get it free, but as yet no luck.

Any thought or home remedies? I had to do the whole red route (25km ish) out of the saddle! Don't fancy that again.

adam85

1,264 posts

191 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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TheBALDpuma said:
I have been periodically dousing with WD40 and GT85 to try and get it free, but as yet no luck.
Have you tried a good penetrating spray or a bit of heat? My seat post was cold welded and this eventually worked.

TheBALDpuma

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5,842 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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adam85 said:
Have you tried a good penetrating spray or a bit of heat? My seat post was cold welded and this eventually worked.
A guy at halfords on the way to Gizburn tried something called "shock and unlock" to no avail.

Not tried heat, what kind of heat are we talking? And to the frame or the seat post?

adam85

1,264 posts

191 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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TheBALDpuma said:
A guy at halfords on the way to Gizburn tried something called "shock and unlock" to no avail.

Not tried heat, what kind of heat are we talking? And to the frame or the seat post?
I used a heat gun on mine, a hair dryer might do the trick eventually. Both my frame and seat post were aluminium which was a bit of a pain but if you can concentrate heat on the frame you may get enough expansion to get the seat post moving.


TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Is it alu post in an alu frame?

okgo

38,061 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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I have same issue currently with steel frame and I guess steel post (?), I've also tried GT85 etc, I've also tried hitting it as hard as I can with a hammer and it moved a TINY bit, but not enough to be free.

Should I also try a special spray ?

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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On my 8 month old steel bike the post was stuck in @ the weekend, I only adjusted the height a month before, thankfully it wasn't too far gone and I put another saddle on to give me more leverage, lots of WD40 and other spray lube after a few mins it finally shifted. Put loads of copper grease on it now in case. I was surprised as it is a newish bike, Ive heard that some (alu?) posts can "weld" themselves into steel frames

If it was me and it didn't move after lots of lube and elbow grease I'd just take it to a decent shop and let them sweat it out, I'm too heavy handed and would end up making it worse!

Ive seen someone before put the bike post first into a bench vice, then used the actual bike as a giant lever. DIdnt work though as the post was still stuck, he s then hacksawed off the post down to the frame and then dremmel'd the inside post out, took ages though and not a lot of room for error

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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okgo said:
I have same issue currently with steel frame and I guess steel post (?), I've also tried GT85 etc, I've also tried hitting it as hard as I can with a hammer and it moved a TINY bit, but not enough to be free.

Should I also try a special spray ?
Try somthing like that (im sure there are better) : http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Keep putting it on for a few days, see if there are drain holes underneath the bottom bracket, I would spray it there and leave the bike upside down

TheBALDpuma

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5,842 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Is it alu post in an alu frame?
Steel frame no idea about the post.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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You need to get to the seat post from the other side too. Turn the bike upside down, remove a bottle cage bolt and pour oil, lube, coca cola etc into the seat tube. If you leave it for a few days then apply some heat with a hair dryer or a heat gun, it should come out.

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

164 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Take the seat off place the bike upside down and clamp the post in a vice, work the frame back and forth, it should come out.

47p2

1,514 posts

161 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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MajorProblem said:
Take the seat off place the bike upside down and clamp the post in a vice, work the frame back and forth, it should come out.
Need to be careful doing that, it can sometimes be disastrous





TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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I'd go with Pablos answer , if no joy then shop and get them to do it

TheBALDpuma

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5,842 posts

168 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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pablo said:
You need to get to the seat post from the other side too. Turn the bike upside down, remove a bottle cage bolt and pour oil, lube, coca cola etc into the seat tube. If you leave it for a few days then apply some heat with a hair dryer or a heat gun, it should come out.
I don't think I've got bottle cage bolts on the seat tube part of the frame. I will keep applying oil over the next few days then get a hair dryer on it!

Thanks for all the advice.

Jimbo.

3,948 posts

189 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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PlusGas. Lots of PlusGas. Then, when the smell of it makes you physically sick, a little bit more for good measure. Forget GT85 and WD40: they're hopeless as a penetrating oil. Why they're marketed as such, God knows.

JMDWestley

1,080 posts

224 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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Not too sure if this would help bit on the car I was using freeze ease it's a spray and does what it says. Been really useful on rusted nuts and bolts, got it at Unipart.

MDJ

138 posts

172 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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How about a 'bottle' jack placed between the frame & seat (with some protection at either end)?

Edit to add - big risk of trashing the frame if not careful though!

Edited by MDJ on Monday 2nd June 20:57

Dammit

3,790 posts

208 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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The torque applied by a bottle jack would crush the top tube.

If you've tried heat and leverage then use caustic soda to melt the seat post out- it will be aluminium, and will be dissolved, whilst the steel will be fine.

However, you'll want to strip the bike down first, and don't expect the paint to be A1 when you've finished.

Might be a good time to get that powdercoat you've been thinking of.

MDJ

138 posts

172 months

Monday 2nd June 2014
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How about frame in a vice horizontally then if the vice is shaped to take it, use vice as a base for the jack?

MDJ

138 posts

172 months

Thursday 5th June 2014
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Did you get it out then or what?