Trainerroad expectations

Trainerroad expectations

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wobert

5,053 posts

222 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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Can’t help with the numbers Dom, but I’m sure someone will be along shortly to help....

I’m back on TR post Christmas using like last year, it to add some riding time mid-week and on days like today when conditions were too icy out.

Started with Mountfield earlier in the week, which I ride as two hills with a flat in between.

I did Ericsson today, heavy legs meant I struggled a little initially then got into my stride....

ALawson

7,815 posts

251 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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Looks like you didn't go hard enough for the two short high power intervals before the 8min pairs. 308w isn't bad! My ftp is 265ish at the moment.

I am using bkool at the moment sticking with a cyclops and a PM, using the gears you can still see big numbers which ruin me.

Did Ventoux today, 1hr 30 at 240w had buggered me.

Intervals this week.

bigdom

2,084 posts

145 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I'd agree. It kept telling me to not go out too hard, the second block was better.

I haven't been on a turbo for probably 20 years, my cycling is split 80/20 in favour of commuting - that only started again in the past 4 years when I moved house and stopped commuting 150 miles a day.

Reading some more yesterday, it appears watts per kg is a better measure. At 105kg (195cm), I have a bit I can lose, although not massive amounts, so that gives me 2 things to focus on. I'll work on a 6 week base plan around the commuting, and see how I get on.

If anyone has any hints/tips, I'm more than happy to be enlightened.

RichUK

1,332 posts

247 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I restarted my TR subscription last week. First few rides have been hard, firstly as I need to get some miles back in my legs and secondly because I hurt my coccyx in October last year and it is still very painful so sitting on the saddle isn't ideal.

E65Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I'm not sure if it'd help coccygeal pain but have you tried a saddle with a central channel?

RichUK

1,332 posts

247 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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E65Ross said:
I'm not sure if it'd help coccygeal pain but have you tried a saddle with a central channel?
I checked last night and the saddle does have a channel. I did a 90 min 'Andrews' last night and the coccyx wasn't too bad afterwards, or this morning, so I suspect it as much about taking it easy and not doing too much too quickly rather than anything else.

Ian Lancs

1,127 posts

166 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Well that was shock to the system! First session since end of Nov, and first FTP with powermeter. I'm hoping it was lack of fitness - FTP down by 30% from the previous estimated, plus still carrying some Christmas ballast... Time for reality check and kick up the arse!

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Ugh tell me about it, had to take 3 weeks off with this flu virus that’s going round, what with Christmas as well what was meant to be an easy reintro (Pettit) really wasn’t very nice yesterday. Just couldn’t get comfortable on the bike and my shoulders are really achey today. Onwards and upwards tho hey?

E65Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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I've been using trainerroad for all of my riding since the clavicle fracture. I'm getting back into it and have been using my new bike on it too! Going to bike fitters tomorrow to sort out new saddle. I intend to do a decent warm up and then a pretty tough session when I'm back.... Hopefully around lunch time but if it's too late I'll do it before dinner. I've not done a real gutsy session since coming back so will be interesting to see how I feel. The new bike is also a LOT lower (like..... About an extra 8cm drop from saddle to handlebars lower!)

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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I see on Nate Pearson's Strava feed that they are working on replacing the 8/20 min FTP tests with a power ramp test. Looks like there is a Beta tester facebook page you can sign up to. anyone tried the new test or have any thoughts?

I gather that they are trying to take some of the guesswork/pacing out of the equation and make it quicker to test.

Seems like it works in a similar way to the "bleep tests" I used to do at school smile

RichUK

1,332 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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My average time for a mile has come down by a minute since I've been back using TR again. Really pleased.

Looks like the coccyx is almost healed too, a lot less pain for the past week.

Kawasicki

13,091 posts

235 months

Tuesday 23rd January 2018
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lufbramatt said:
I see on Nate Pearson's Strava feed that they are working on replacing the 8/20 min FTP tests with a power ramp test. Looks like there is a Beta tester facebook page you can sign up to. anyone tried the new test or have any thoughts?

I gather that they are trying to take some of the guesswork/pacing out of the equation and make it quicker to test.

Seems like it works in a similar way to the "bleep tests" I used to do at school smile
I programmed my own Conconi/ramp test. I also ran a test at a sports lab last Friday. Deary me, the results confirmed my suspicions. I’m not really a natural endurance type.

G321

576 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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RichUK said:
My average time for a mile has come down by a minute since I've been back using TR again. Really pleased.

Looks like the coccyx is almost healed too, a lot less pain for the past week.
Out of interest what is your average time for a minute? If I could take a minute of each mile my 10 mile TT's would be a bit more competitive!

RichUK

1,332 posts

247 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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G321 said:
Out of interest what is your average time for a minute? If I could take a minute of each mile my 10 mile TT's would be a bit more competitive!
Down to between 3:22 - 3:30 or so, might not be great in the brand scheme of things, but I'm delighted with my progress so far!

G321

576 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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RichUK said:
G321 said:
Out of interest what is your average time for a minute? If I could take a minute of each mile my 10 mile TT's would be a bit more competitive!
Down to between 3:22 - 3:30 or so, might not be great in the brand scheme of things, but I'm delighted with my progress so far!
Progress is progress, keep up the good work!

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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New analytics look good. Can import data from Strava from outside rides, and there's tools for comparing TSS and power stats from previous years/seasons.




Chicken Chaser

7,810 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Last year on this thread I reported 206w on an FTP. Unfortunately the year didn't go as planned and I lost momentum which lost fitness. In the end I just rode around enjoying the time on the bike.

So in November I started back on the trainer and my power was probably just under 200w. Poor for 76kg. I bought a Tacx Neo because I wanted one an many many hours later I'm pushing 242w and still showing week on week improvement. Still haven't shifted much weight (something I need to focus on for next 2 months) but I want to keep going now I'm seeing some decent gains. 3.1kg which I can sustain for an hour, just shy of 1000w sprinting which is up from mid 600s. Not sure where this is all going to end up but im enjoying it!

RichUK

1,332 posts

247 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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I am thinking of upgrading from my ageing CycleOps Powerbean to a Wahoo Kickr or CycleOps Hammer. That way I'll have a more accurate and reliable trainer, that isn't subject to the whims of needing to inflate a tyre half way through a workout!

ALawson

7,815 posts

251 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Chicken Chaser said:
Last year on this thread I reported 206w on an FTP. Unfortunately the year didn't go as planned and I lost momentum which lost fitness. In the end I just rode around enjoying the time on the bike.

So in November I started back on the trainer and my power was probably just under 200w. Poor for 76kg. I bought a Tacx Neo because I wanted one an many many hours later I'm pushing 242w and still showing week on week improvement. Still haven't shifted much weight (something I need to focus on for next 2 months) but I want to keep going now I'm seeing some decent gains. 3.1kg which I can sustain for an hour, just shy of 1000w sprinting which is up from mid 600s. Not sure where this is all going to end up but im enjoying it!
Thats a great improvement, I have hovered around a FTP of 280w last year, been on the TT sporadically over winter and just been of the bike for two weeks following a chest infection. I think a 20min effort of 265w (then 40mins of 250w afterwards) resulted in the coughing & infections.

I managed 40mins on the rollers on Tuesday and I have a 107km sportive this weekend, should be fun first outside ride since October. 400w 1 min efforts were interesting without taking off!

I am a similar weight to you at 80kg, I expect 2 weeks off has dented the fitness, but I may drop Bkool. The videos are nice but the structured programmes they do don't seem to be as good as TR. Whereas TR seems to focus on highish cadence alot, Bkool seems to advocate reasonably slow cadences.

E65Ross

35,088 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th February 2018
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I love my kickr. Had it for about 2.5 years and I've used it a LOT! It's been great. I've changed the belt out of precaution (can get these for under £10) and I've also cleaned and regreased the freehub a couple of times as part of a basic maintenance routine for it but it's been well worth the investment. It was showing a power discrepancy for a while from my power meter but after an advanced calibration spindown it's now back to being spot on.

Do it!