Purudential 100 ride times

Purudential 100 ride times

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Maxf

8,409 posts

241 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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okgo said:
I think you're making it harder in your mind than it is, a couple of months and nearly anyone could do the 100 I would have said.
I hope so... I just signed up for the Wiggle New Forest 100... eek.

z4RRSchris

11,290 posts

179 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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there was a rower in my crit last night, fking huge bd 6"5 + and legs like trees.

he got dropped.

sjg

7,452 posts

265 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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clonmult said:
I'm tempted to enter next year, but the 100 would require more training than I'm willing to put in - it really would take over my life.
I did it two years ago, having managed only a handful of short rides in the previous year (new baby and moving house), got round fine. If your bike is comfortable and you're eating/drinking enough it's fine even if you pootle around. On the very last wave, you don't even need to be averaging 12mph to stay ahead of the cutoffs.

Even just getting out for a longer ride once or twice a month will be fine to build up enough to really enjoy it.

Slaav

4,255 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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z4RRSchris said:
there was a rower in my crit last night, fking huge bd 6"5 + and legs like trees.

he got dropped.
And how are you guys on a Concept 2 Ergo? smile

I think we can all agree that a cyclist's legs are slightly different to a rower and shoulders and back may also be slightly bigger on a rower?

The change in shape of my legs coming from a rowing/rugby background to cycling is mahoosive. Shame I am not doing enough to work on my belly properly though - which may be why I like these 'sitting down' sports so much?


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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It would be an interesting 'biathlon' type event wouldn't it, 40km bike, 10km row?

okgo

38,055 posts

198 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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I think most good cyclists would pull some reasonable times on a c2. Bit of adaption and off you go...


louiebaby

10,651 posts

191 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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I'm enjoying the rower chat here. I'm an ex-rower, didn't quite make it onto the GB squad, but to a relatively high level. When I retired I moved to cycling, and am enjoying it.

I am 6'8'' tall, was 96kgs when rowing, went up to 125kgs when I stopped, but kept eating, and am now at or around 100kgs most of the year.

The training we used to do seems to have had a very positive effect on my CV fitness, even 10 years after finishing. Even being a big heavy bugger, I love hills (not been to the Alps yet) and can really surprise people with my ability to just keep going.

I've done a little TTing, and would like to be able to do more, but currently funds and family commitments limit me somewhat, so I'll stick to trying to get local Strava KOMs on really long and lumpy segments.

People love sitting and drafting off me, better than a bus apparently, but I'd be a fking liability in a mass start race. hehe

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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okgo said:
I think most good cyclists would pull some reasonable times on a c2. Bit of adaption and off you go...
I think you are probably right. I wonder how good someone could be in both simultaneously?

So, if someone who is doing, say, 50 minute 25's on a bike trained well enough to do, say, 40 minute 10k on the rower, would that be a disaster for the cycling performance?

okgo

38,055 posts

198 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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JPJPJP said:
I think you are probably right. I wonder how good someone could be in both simultaneously?

So, if someone who is doing, say, 50 minute 25's on a bike trained well enough to do, say, 40 minute 10k on the rower, would that be a disaster for the cycling performance?
It would not likely be a disaster, apart from adding bulk possibly, but it certainly isn't going to make them any better at cycling smile

Concept 2 gives you a read out in watts, so one would assume with adaption you'd be able to produce similar to what you could on a bike?

Slaav

4,255 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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louiebaby said:
I'm enjoying the rower chat here. I'm an ex-rower, didn't quite make it onto the GB squad, but to a relatively high level. When I retired I moved to cycling, and am enjoying it.

I am 6'8'' tall, was 96kgs when rowing, went up to 125kgs when I stopped, but kept eating, and am now at or around 100kgs most of the year.

The training we used to do seems to have had a very positive effect on my CV fitness, even 10 years after finishing. Even being a big heavy bugger, I love hills (not been to the Alps yet) and can really surprise people with my ability to just keep going.

I've done a little TTing, and would like to be able to do more, but currently funds and family commitments limit me somewhat, so I'll stick to trying to get local Strava KOMs on really long and lumpy segments.

People love sitting and drafting off me, better than a bus apparently, but I'd be a fking liability in a mass start race. hehe
I think as ever, there are real similarities but enough differences between the two that your size/physique will certainly help and hinder?

I was a No8 and rower at Uni - we had two GB chaps in the UL boat (8) so I didn't get anywhere near it but played more rugby as I enjoyed more beer smile

I cant believe the number of fit people I have sat on a C2 rower and watched them puke after relatively short periods of time. The CV fitness as you mention is just that though? Absolutely vital in both.

I was delighted to meet a couple of 'big ol' boats' of the ex rugby/rower types on the 100 and wow did it make a difference to me. At one point, I was sitting behind someone your sort of size and for once actually getting a bit of a proper tow.... then I was aware that a train had formed behind us in seconds as we were making such a big hole smile

I am a relative dwarf at 6'4" and 111 Kg. the chap immediately behind noticed me glance backwards and thanked me; the chap in front then noticed me and farted!!! we all laughed and put it down to the price one pays for a man your size tugging us all along beer






Type R Tom

3,867 posts

149 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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I always find Martin Johnson's times impressive!

louiebaby

10,651 posts

191 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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Slaav said:
I think as ever, there are real similarities but enough differences between the two that your size/physique will certainly help and hinder?

I was a No8 and rower at Uni - we had two GB chaps in the UL boat (8) so I didn't get anywhere near it but played more rugby as I enjoyed more beer smile

I cant believe the number of fit people I have sat on a C2 rower and watched them puke after relatively short periods of time. The CV fitness as you mention is just that though? Absolutely vital in both.
I think it's the CV fitness, but also a bit of the mental toughness. Perhaps more noticeable on the Sportive scene, not sure about real racing as I've not got involved. I'm sure some "proper" racers are properly tough.

This year I did the Dartmoor Classic with a friend, and really enjoyed the hills. The final 10 miles or so is very flat, and my friend was properly tired. I told him to tuck in behind me, and shout if he fell off. I went at a steady rhythm, barely working myself, but just right for him. I only realised the size of the group that had formed when I failed to spot a pothole, and there were many shouts of "ouch" and "fk"...

I've also basically towed a mate from Land's End to John O'Groats. A lightweight rower friend, who I'm sure spent more time in my wake than he did anywhere else!

clonmult

10,529 posts

209 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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sjg said:
clonmult said:
I'm tempted to enter next year, but the 100 would require more training than I'm willing to put in - it really would take over my life.
I did it two years ago, having managed only a handful of short rides in the previous year (new baby and moving house), got round fine. If your bike is comfortable and you're eating/drinking enough it's fine even if you pootle around. On the very last wave, you don't even need to be averaging 12mph to stay ahead of the cutoffs.

Even just getting out for a longer ride once or twice a month will be fine to build up enough to really enjoy it.
Guess I've got a while to think it over; my bike is comfortable enough, although I'd have to sort out the brakes - its a CX with a second set of brake levers, nightmare to get it setup right. I'd be wanting to average a fair bit faster, which is the problem.

Would probably enjoy it at any speed.

Slaav

4,255 posts

210 months

Thursday 3rd August 2017
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clonmult said:
Guess I've got a while to think it over; my bike is comfortable enough, although I'd have to sort out the brakes - its a CX with a second set of brake levers, nightmare to get it setup right. I'd be wanting to average a fair bit faster, which is the problem.

Would probably enjoy it at any speed.
Whatever you do, apply! It is a ballot so pretty certain you wont get in. if you do get in and are not ready, take a medical exemption and defer I guess? Gives you a guaranteed entry the following year.

You could easily apply five years in a row and still not get in so it is worth a try!!! Charity places abound..... but with the commitment associated.